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Dr. Green Brain

New Member
Hello everyone,

I posted this as a reply in a different thread, and I thought it'd be worth recreating here.

Enjoy,

Another great way to maximize your yield is to increase the amount of C02 in your growing environment. You probably already know that plants need it for photosynthesis, but you may not know that all plants today are really under productive compared to their ancestors. When vegetation was first starting to grow on the earth, the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere was exponentially higher than it is today. The good news is, most plants (especially cannabis) have not lost their ability to process massive amounts of C02, and when introduced to the growing environment, they can grow much faster, denser, and produce a much higher yield.

How to Introduce CO2 to Your Growing environment:

As you can imagine, you can spend a shit load of money and get really sophisticated equipment that will work wonders. However, as with many things in the marijuana growing community, there are ways to do it inexpensively.

(if you are interested in the "Highly sophisticated" version click here)


If cash is something you can't spend, but you have just a little time and about $2, You can make a basic CO2 generator (aka fermenter) that works great for small to medium size grow spaces.

Materials Needed:
Empty Milk Jug or a somewhat large vessel with a lid.
Water
Sugar
Yeast
Safety pin or something you can poke holes with.

Method:
Fill the milk jug 1/2 - 3/4 full of water, and add 1-3 cups of sugar. Let the water stand until it is room temperature (or just use luke warm water). This is important because yeast is a living organism, and if you put it in water that is too cold or hot, you will shock it and kill most, if not all, of it. Add about 2-3 tablespoons of yeast. Place the lid on top and use a safety pin or something to poke a handful of small holes through the lid. Place the jug in your grow room in the exact opposite position of your vent fan (if you have one). For example, if your vent is in the upper left-hand corner in the back of your grow area, place the jug in the bottom right-hand corner in the front. If your grow area is larger, place multiple fermenters around your grow space.

What to expect:
Within an hour of adding your yeast, you should see it start to activate. A foam will start to develop on the top and grow larger. Some yeast strains are much more aggressive than others, and it's very possible that it will "boil over" or ooze out of the top. If it does, clean up the mess and remember to add less yeast next time. After a week or so, the yeast should start to calm down and the foam will decrease in size. After three weeks, most of the yeast will be sediment at the bottom of the fermenter. This yeast is NOT dead, and it can be rechagarged. You want to recharge the dormant yeast because it is no longer producing C02. To do so you can either give the jug a shake to give a it a quick recharge, or you can add more sugar to make the effect last longer.

Why This Works:

The yeast consumes the sugar and expels (shits) alcohol and CO2. This is the exact same process used to make the alcohol that people drink, although CO2 is usually seen as a byproduct. In this application however, the alcohol is the byproduct. By placing the fermenters in the opposite location of your vent fan, you are allowing the CO2 to be spread more evenly over your entire grow space.

If you don’t know the basics of photosynthesis, basically, the plant takes CO2, water, and sunlight and converts it into glucose and oxygen (here oxygen is a byproduct of photosynthesis).

Here is the formula:

Six molecules of water + Six molecules of Carbon Dioxide + Sunlight = 1 molecule of Sugar and six molecules of oxygen

6H2O + 6CO2 ----------> C6H12O6+ 6O2

The plant needs sugar (or glucose) to grow anything, so the more glucose it makes, the faster and bigger it will grow (think of a kid who only drinks soda and eats McDonalds).

You want to use the lid with the holes in it because it will become slightly pressurized and therefore, will slowly release the Co2 and cause it to spray out and upwards. This is opposed to not using a lid and having the CO2 slowly ooze out of the top and immediately fall to the floor of your grow area.

Alternatively, if you are into brewing your own beer/wine at home, you can run a blow off tube from your fermenters into your grow space.

Quantities of yeast, sugar, & water aren't really important because the yeast will go dormant once all of the sugar has been consumed. So, don't get too rapped up in the "right ammount" of stuff to use.

Anyway, if you found this helpful, please remember to +rep me!
 

kushmasta88

Well-Known Member
Say I do take this idea and format it into my grow....how many jugs producing CO2 would be optimal to use? Could you use too much if using 4 jugs? How would you give CO2 to outdoor plants?
 

smokinmayne

Well-Known Member
outdoor doesnt need c02. good thread, should make a thread where we provide all different types of c02 possibilites in the grow room
 

joker152

Well-Known Member
huh from all the other posts i have seen about this i just thought you put it in a bowl or something, but a lid with holes makes quite a bit of sense. +rep
 

Dr. Green Brain

New Member
Say I do take this idea and format it into my grow....how many jugs producing CO2 would be optimal to use? Could you use too much if using 4 jugs? How would you give CO2 to outdoor plants?
I'm not sure at what level CO2 is toxic to plants, but you can be sure it'll be much more than it would to be toxic to humans. CO2 is toxic to humans at 10,000ppb. In other words, you should be fine with four jugs (you and your plants). Giving CO2 to outdoors plants would be difficult but unlike smokinmayne's post, outdoor plants most certainly need CO2, but it would be much more difficult to effectively deliver MORE than what nature already provides. If you're really want to try it, I'd stick a fermenter under every plant, you will probably run into issues with bugs and other animals though. If you find something that works, let us know.
 

tinyTURTLE

Well-Known Member
i use bendy straws to get the outflow above my plants and slightly behind my fan. this promotes even distribution because CO2 is heavier than air.
 

lehua96734

Well-Known Member
thanks Dr. great help and you have answered a question I have been pondering because of a very limited budget, those co2 things on the net are just out of the question too expensive. and the hint about the straw is great. thanks again.
 

sativaplanet420

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

I posted this as a reply in a different thread, and I thought it'd be worth recreating here.

Enjoy,

Another great way to maximize your yield is to increase the amount of C02 in your growing environment. You probably already know that plants need it for photosynthesis, but you may not know that all plants today are really under productive compared to their ancestors. When vegetation was first starting to grow on the earth, the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere was exponentially higher than it is today. The good news is, most plants (especially cannabis) have not lost their ability to process massive amounts of C02, and when introduced to the growing environment, they can grow much faster, denser, and produce a much higher yield.

How to Introduce CO2 to Your Growing environment:

As you can imagine, you can spend a shit load of money and get really sophisticated equipment that will work wonders. However, as with many things in the marijuana growing community, there are ways to do it inexpensively.

(if you are interested in the "Highly sophisticated" version click here)


If cash is something you can't spend, but you have just a little time and about $2, You can make a basic CO2 generator (aka fermenter) that works great for small to medium size grow spaces.

Materials Needed:
Empty Milk Jug or a somewhat large vessel with a lid.
Water
Sugar
Yeast
Safety pin or something you can poke holes with.

Method:
Fill the milk jug 1/2 - 3/4 full of water, and add 1-3 cups of sugar. Let the water stand until it is room temperature (or just use luke warm water). This is important because yeast is a living organism, and if you put it in water that is too cold or hot, you will shock it and kill most, if not all, of it. Add about 2-3 tablespoons of yeast. Place the lid on top and use a safety pin or something to poke a handful of small holes through the lid. Place the jug in your grow room in the exact opposite position of your vent fan (if you have one). For example, if your vent is in the upper left-hand corner in the back of your grow area, place the jug in the bottom right-hand corner in the front. If your grow area is larger, place multiple fermenters around your grow space.

What to expect:
Within an hour of adding your yeast, you should see it start to activate. A foam will start to develop on the top and grow larger. Some yeast strains are much more aggressive than others, and it's very possible that it will "boil over" or ooze out of the top. If it does, clean up the mess and remember to add less yeast next time. After a week or so, the yeast should start to calm down and the foam will decrease in size. After three weeks, most of the yeast will be sediment at the bottom of the fermenter. This yeast is NOT dead, and it can be rechagarged. You want to recharge the dormant yeast because it is no longer producing C02. To do so you can either give the jug a shake to give a it a quick recharge, or you can add more sugar to make the effect last longer.

Why This Works:

The yeast consumes the sugar and expels (shits) alcohol and CO2. This is the exact same process used to make the alcohol that people drink, although CO2 is usually seen as a byproduct. In this application however, the alcohol is the byproduct. By placing the fermenters in the opposite location of your vent fan, you are allowing the CO2 to be spread more evenly over your entire grow space.

If you don’t know the basics of photosynthesis, basically, the plant takes CO2, water, and sunlight and converts it into glucose and oxygen (here oxygen is a byproduct of photosynthesis).

Here is the formula:

Six molecules of water + Six molecules of Carbon Dioxide + Sunlight = 1 molecule of Sugar and six molecules of oxygen

6H2O + 6CO2 ----------> C6H12O6+ 6O2

The plant needs sugar (or glucose) to grow anything, so the more glucose it makes, the faster and bigger it will grow (think of a kid who only drinks soda and eats McDonalds).

You want to use the lid with the holes in it because it will become slightly pressurized and therefore, will slowly release the Co2 and cause it to spray out and upwards. This is opposed to not using a lid and having the CO2 slowly ooze out of the top and immediately fall to the floor of your grow area.

Alternatively, if you are into brewing your own beer/wine at home, you can run a blow off tube from your fermenters into your grow space.

Quantities of yeast, sugar, & water aren't really important because the yeast will go dormant once all of the sugar has been consumed. So, don't get too rapped up in the "right ammount" of stuff to use.

How many ppm of C02 can you actually achieve with this method? Seems like a lot of work for a little C02. A tank and timer is not that expensive.
 

kushmasta88

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the advice...once I get around to growing indoors soon i'll post some input on how the jugs and your method works out...I could see how it would be difficult to administer co2 outdoors but surely there has got to be some way...i'll do some research on it and get back to this thread with it.
 

AZGanja

Member
I absolutely can vouch for the fact these DO work. After seeing a post similar to this, I built two of them and noticed a BIG difference the first light cycle. Somewhere someone used a CO2 ppm meter to see how much these 2-Litre solutions provided. If I remember correctly, it was right around 200 ppm per container. Naturally the most yeast you put in the quicker it eats the sugar (but you have more CO2 output). I've read that anything over 1500 ppm of CO2 and our ladies aren't happy. So if 300 ppm of CO2 is present in the air we breath, and the plant needs 1500 ppm, that's a 1200 ppm CO2 deficiency to make up for.

The new growth rate is unbelievable!! I went to a "home brew" shop and bought a couple Twin Bubble Air Locks - they were a buck each. The idea behind using those is that it keeps the fermantation process sterile - the air lock will not allow outside air or contaminants to enter the fermenting container. No matter how you do it - you're going to notice. One poster on another thread stated he wasn't getting light burn on his leaves whereas he was before at the same distance between light and plants.
 

Hulk Nugs

Well-Known Member
OK MY DIY CO2 JUST BLEW UP REALLY IT BLEW UP LIKE A BOMB!!

Walked by my temp gage and something did not look right, so i unlocked my room (it was in dark period) and went in omg the power is out wtf is that i am walking in holly shit it water, did my res or something break or spill empty hahaha fuck i can not turn on the lights so what to do little flash light (headlight) fuck fuck fuck co2 bomb went off.

First thing i did was check my plants, i don't think that much co2 mix water on them is good, but they only had a few drops so i should be ok right ????

But fuck 2 litters of water and all the mix to make the co2 every where, walls, timers, papers, in the RO tank, puddles on the floor, all over my AC and dehumidifier, fuck smells like a fucking frat house in there now, i like beer but dam.

OK so i did not want to wait for lights on so with my head light started cleaning everything, soaked up all the water/mix, then used a new towel and cleaned everything with 91% alcohol well as much as i could, plus now the smell is gone and replaced with alcohol aroma. Going to wait tell lights come back on then clean everything again.

Honestly i don't want to make a mix again that happen but fuck i want my dense nugs and no money is pushing me to do it again hopefully with out the explosion.

I got this recipe from Smoothe and he has some really nice co2 setups just for growing plants in his aquariums, so this mix might be a little different then others but i have used it with good results, others have to.

Not sure what went wrong this time around and it blew up on me but if anyone has a idea i am all ears.

The mix i use is:
DIY-CO2-MIX-
~2 L RO water
2 packs (1.5 Tblspn) - Yeast
2 cups - Sugar
1 Tblspn - Molasses (grandma's brand)
2 teaspn - Protein Mix (vanilla flavor)
1 teaspn - Baking Soda

Oh yea on the thread its all good man thanks for the Info but there are other DIY co2 threads so if anyone comes across one put a link in this thread to it and vise versa ya know ;-)
 
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