Advanced Autoflower Training, tips, secrets

perlite whats that ?

In horticulture, perlite can be used as a soil amendment or alone as a medium for hydroponics or for starting cuttings. When used as an amendment it has high permeability / low water retention and helps prevent soil compaction. ;P

i was j/k but hey maybe that bit of info will help someone out

what strains you have goin @ jeffdogg ?

I knew ya was j/k, but went along I Actually have a couple AutoXtreme otw, and a little Gibberellic Acid

your still new to auto's ? have you tried dinafem's original amnesia auto ?
i trimmed a bit of the lower branches that i felt wouldnt reach to the scrog and chopped it up real fine and let it quick dry a few tokes and i think i was sittin on the moon but i cant remember honestly though not even a week into flower this stuff will knock your socks off already building trich's ive grown this strain for a while and the newest pack i got i ended up with a real bushy one seems to start even earlier with the trich build up easy to grow requires little or no nutes but can take a full dose almost i give it like 8.75/10 with 10 being dr.grinspoon or nirvana sky something along those lines

ive been experimenting with taking clones of auto's in hope to hermi them out for seed crops just the male parts not to actually make seeds can clone gebb it and then collect the pollen can just throw it outside it wouldnt be that large seeing how after the roots took it would probably be already in flower
hate to waste a whole plant for a seed crop
Im not a tight wad im just green ya thats my excuse

Had to add this so that way if its sticky'd it will be here in the first couple pages

• lilroach
  
  
  
  Learning How To RollLearning How To Roll
  
  Join DateMar 2013
  LocationPlanet EarthPosts47Journal Entries34
  
  [h=2]
  
  [/h]
  
  I can only go by the many photos and video of autos, and it seems to me that if someone doesn't have expectations of a pound per plant and doesn't care if the weed doesn't ring the highest THC bell...autos are a good option. The thing I like about autos is that one can have a revolving grow without having to have separate veg and flower rooms....getting a fresh ounce or two every week/month ain't a bad thing.
  
  I see many small cab grows with nothing more than $10 invested in CFL's and a couple of fans grow some amazing plants. The lack of needing a ton of nutrients and the ability of growing in small pots, makes autos a perfect choice for many.​
  
  
  
  • Unlike
  You like this.
  
  
  My profile pic is of me standing in front of the White House at a NORML rally back in the 1970's. Yes, behind me is a line of riot cops, and yes, that's a bowl of weed I'm smoking in front of them.
  ​
  
  

For LSTing I made a couple pot-toppers
They take up a bit of space so now im trying some eye bolts in to the lip (with pieces of wood glued between it and the wall of the pot) of the pot

ive made out of 2"x2" wood stakes a single serving scrog that you can move around just framed it up around the pot
worked well

that big topper i like that how many 7 " pots could you fit up there you think ? could grow like a think different in the middle and smaller faster strains in 7" pots around the edge

Yeah I may end up doing something like that but right now the plan is when the plant with the topper finishes in a weekish I am going to transplant the photoperiods from four inch squares to some 7in pots which will take up the rest of the space in my tent. And start doing mostly photos so this is probably the last time in the foreseeable future that I will have 4 autos going inside. But if I did fewer plants I could use the 2 toppers I have to grow some bushes, they have a much nicer array of tying points but take up extra space compared to eye bolts in the pots.

I can put up to 8 of the 4in pots on one topper assuming the LSTed plant is not in the way, which it is/ will be so effectively 6 pots or so

tekdc911 said:

and brother i use garden soil from home depot the organic stuff with no time release ive used fox's soil and came to the conclusion that its comparable results from stuff i can get locally

Click to expand...

I am a noobie at growing cannabis, however I have been an avid gardener for 41 years. I started with the auto flowering AK 48 and auto power skunk, I decided that fox farm products are way over priced and used a mix of organic soil, composted manure and organic topsoil, I added an organic fertilizer very low in Nitrogen and with small amounts of potassium and phosphate, then I added enough organic fertilizer to duplicate fox farms Tiger Bloom. The total cost for two 1 gallon pots, one 5 gallon pot and one 3 gallon pot was around $9. I am using a T5 light with a 90 watt LED Diode light hung 4 ft above the plants and the T5 is right on top of the plants. So far, so good. The tip that the plants grow a tap root to the side tells me shallow small waterings would be best. Any suggestions, criticism, or advice would greatly appreciated.

jakeso123 said:

I am a noobie at growing cannabis, however I have been an avid gardener for 41 years. I started with the auto flowering AK 48 and auto power skunk, I decided that fox farm products are way over priced and used a mix of organic soil, composted manure and organic topsoil, I added an organic fertilizer very low in Nitrogen and with small amounts of potassium and phosphate, then I added enough organic fertilizer to duplicate fox farms Tiger Bloom. The total cost for two 1 gallon pots, one 5 gallon pot and one 3 gallon pot was around $9. I am using a T5 light with a 90 watt LED Diode light hung 4 ft above the plants and the T5 is right on top of the plants. So far, so good. The tip that the plants grow a tap root to the side tells me shallow small waterings would be best. Any suggestions, criticism, or advice would greatly appreciated.

Click to expand...

just careful on the nutes/ferts ive grown many strains out and usually never use more then 1/2 str nutes
if your using a soil that you made then thats awesome seeing how youve gardened for 40+ years tells me i can wrap this up in a few sentences

if you want big auto's use perlite at least 25% water but dont drench the soil they like to dry up in between water / feeds but not desert dry just barely moist if your watering correctly then it seems like they grow every time you water
i give them a few cups daily i have to schedule waterings seeing how im using a scrog and cant pick my planters up 1/4 str nutes and a 24/0 lighting
if you added somthing to cover the need for cal mag they require low/moderate levels most soils dont cover this need just careful to much and it will start locking out other nutes
the led is ok for veg at that distance but bring it in closer for flower
trick to a auto is feed it like you feed a baby
bland and in small doses

Very informative page on LST for Auto's, should take a peek

Auto LST
http://www.autoflowering-cannabis.com/autoflower-lst.html#more-939

Tie down AF LST
http://www.autoflowering-cannabis.com/tie-down-low-stress-trainin.html

Mix one table spoon of garden lime per gallon of dirt. Never have a cal- mag deficencey and your soil oh will be stable.

70sdiver said:

Mix one table spoon of garden lime per gallon of dirt. Never have a cal- mag deficencey and your soil oh will be stable.

Click to expand...

now would i run this in a soil soiless mix with the same results ?
im almost fully soiless i use just enough potting mix to cover the first few weeks the rest is moss and perlite

got a crazy little fact for ya
have a new 7 band 135w led with the ir and uv 3 w diodes i think one of the two light bleaches my plants when i get it to close its one spot right in the middle of the scrog 2 different branches and both directly under the ir or uv cant tell
doesnt do it if i pick it up its a shame too cause the rest of the plant is loving it

tekdc911 said:

now would i run this in a soil soiless mix with the same results ?
im almost fully soiless i use just enough potting mix to cover the first few weeks the rest is moss and perlite

Click to expand...

Indeed but look for Dolimite (im sure its the same as "garden lime" just never heard it called that just dolomite) lime:

In horticulture, dolomite and dolomitic limestone are added to soils and soilless potting mixes as a pH buffer and as a magnesium source. Home and container gardening are common examples of this use.

What it does is make your soil "neutral" (7.0 p.h.) Helps PH stability for sure, unless you use advanced nutrients then alot of their base products adjust the PH automatically for you No pens no fiss dont gotta spend time adjusting/calibrating/etc...

tekdc911 said:

got a crazy little fact for ya
have a new 7 band 135w led with the ir and uv 3 w diodes i think one of the two light bleaches my plants when i get it to close its one spot right in the middle of the scrog 2 different branches and both directly under the ir or uv cant tell
doesnt do it if i pick it up its a shame too cause the rest of the plant is loving it

Click to expand...

Yeah I hear LED can have that effect if its too close,they're being refined though. Past 4-5 years they have come along way from that little red dot we used to see on our old coffee makers