Advanced nutrients ph perfect + fox farm 3 part grainual solubles schedule idea

Was wondering what everyone thought about mixing the following for a 12 week schedule.
seedling -3 week-sensi grow
week4-week6-sensi bloom and open sesamie
week7-week9-sensi bloom and beastie bloom
week10&11-sensi bloom and cha ching
week 12-cha ching
last 3 days flush
if anyone has tried anything similar let me know or just let me know what you think of this combo.

I used it in combination of Advanced Nutrients 3 part G-M-B and the trio of solubles and found I liked the FF better when used with Grow Big Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom. On a side note if you haven't purchased anything I like Dyna Gro Grow and Bloom and Pro Tekt. 3 bottles whole cycle great results you don't need anything else. All 16 Macro and Micro nutrients are in there. The Pro Tekt helps keep ph stable so once you adjust it it is good for days. Soil and hydro it does good.

no i have all the ff lineup but im switching to hydro and need a solution to being able to leave my grow for days at a time and i have a good hookup on ph perfect lineup. i dont have time to deal with ph issues.

still wont make your ph perfect...thats why i switched to dyna gro whole line up for like 50 bones never touch your reservoir again

i have multiple growers that have used ph perfect and it stays at 5.8 with sensi bloom..... are you sure you used the right bottle? not being a dick but everyone that complained it didnt work used old nutes that people told them were ph perfect nutes.

bro it aint meant to be 'ph perfect' with non advanced products...at least it wasn't IME

Springtucky said:

bro it aint meant to be 'ph perfect' with non advanced products...at least it wasn't INE

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its a buffer thats release is only affected by the ph of the nutrient solution. only the base has it. the secondaries dont at all. that would make no sense that similar npk values would just not work because its not AN secondaries.

bump for anyone else's help as well.

mix it up then and see if it comes to 5.8...are you using RO water...similar n-p-k values? Beastie Bloom is like 0-50-30 and the others have very high numbers as well. Advanced Nutrients are the most over priced over hyped LESS COMPLETE nutrient line up on the market...See how stable your ph is after you have to adjust it anyways and see how long it stays where you put it. If you know multiple growers that use it then why are you here? Even if it did hold your ph stable pro tekt and dyna gro will do it better, take less amounts, and ultimately grow better dope.

TshirtNinja said:

Was wondering what everyone thought about mixing the following for a 12 week schedule.
seedling -3 week-sensi grow
week4-week6-sensi bloom and open sesamie
week7-week9-sensi bloom and beastie bloom
week10&11-sensi bloom and cha ching
week 12-cha ching
last 3 days flush
if anyone has tried anything similar let me know or just let me know what you think of this combo.

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Wow. Sounds like a lot of things I've never used. LOL

I've been using

Sensi Grow A&B
Sensi Bloom A&B
Big Bud
B-52
Overdrive
Pirhana
Voodoo Juice
Bud Candy
Final Phase

I don't know about mixing up a bunch of nutrients from different lineups. It sounds like things could get messy IMHO

Or maybe I just like to stick with things that tell me exactly what to do. Lots of info from AN to support me as I go.

ph-PPM Perfect is supposed to be awesome, just don't know about mixing it up with other things. Don't want to tell someone to go for it, but I'm all for testing things out too. Why not just try something? Well, from my point of view, it could fail...

TshirtNinja said:

Was wondering what everyone thought about mixing the following for a 12 week schedule.
seedling -3 week-sensi grow
week4-week6-sensi bloom and open sesamie
week7-week9-sensi bloom and beastie bloom
week10&11-sensi bloom and cha ching
week 12-cha ching
last 3 days flush
if anyone has tried anything similar let me know or just let me know what you think of this combo.

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I use advanced nutrients non ph stable G-M-B with ff solubles. I would recommend not using cha ching in week 12. Have used whole fox farm line in soil and hydro in the past and can say the fox farms does impose a unique taste. How long to only use water in debatable but if you want to run something for your week 12 I would run just the base nutrient, not a bloom booster standalone(it's not good n-p-k values and I think cha ching adds a weird taste)

Suppose none of you Advanced Scam-trients users read the article that points out how Advanced Nutrients are now banned from sale in Oregon for basically lying about the analysis on the bottles? They dont contain what they're supposed to and can contain up to 6x the amount of heavy metals listed.

A scientist from the agricultural agency in Oregon also categorically stated that given the analysis they did, that it was also obvious Advanced Nutrients make their products from contaminated impure sources...

Just a little FYI

at the end of the day they all are just nutes with different ratios, figure out what ratios your plant wants and you will be on your way

fatality said:

at the end of the day they all are just nutes with different ratios, figure out what ratios your plant wants and you will be on your way

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Not really, generally AN products contain 1-5 of the nutrients you need, and even at that the labels are unreliable.

So youve to buy on average 6-8 products just to grow a good plant because of you use them all surely you'll get enoug of what the plants want? Plus they have (as I said) up to 6x the "advertised" amount of heavy metals in them? That's just plain immorally bad form if you ask me, that shit is dangerous bro.

Here's a link to the article actually: http://www.integralhydro.com/AdvancedNutrients2.html

Does anyone here have experience with Botonicare PBP hydro G+B?
I want to go for the pure organic taste more or less. Sweet and liquid karma ive heard good things about but that will be it for my budget.


Clones - 5ml PBPG per gal
Young Plant - 10ml PBPG +2ml liquid karma
Mature Plant - 15ml PBPG + 2ml liquid karma +2ml sweet (starting at transition)
Flowering Plant - 15ml PBPB+2ml liquid karma +3ml sweet +5ml Calmag till flush


Does this sound reasonable?

I've never been a big fan of Fox Farm myself. As pickitlickit said there's a unique taste caused by some of their products that I just don't like.

That said, as long as the additives don't throw off the balance too far they should, at least theoretically, work with the pH Perfect base nutes. How well and how long are a bit of a crap shoot though. If you really need the stability I wouldn't risk it myself.

As far as the Oregon crap goes, that's been done to death. Everyone knows the labeling laws for fertilizers are based off decades-old tech for soil crops like corn and wheat. They're so far behind the times having the government refuse your labeling is like the government refusing to let you sell aspirin because they only have licensing for leeches.

And that integralhydro website is apparently run by a guy who worked for AN, had some sort of mental breakdown, and started imagining everyone there was out to get him. He's now some kind of one-man conspiracy theory against them. Not exactly a credible source.

fatality said:

at the end of the day they all are just nutes with different ratios, figure out what ratios your plant wants and you will be on your way

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How can I tell what nutes my strain will work best with?

Harrekin said:

Suppose none of you Advanced Scam-trients users read the article that points out how Advanced Nutrients are now banned from sale in Oregon for basically lying about the analysis on the bottles? They dont contain what they're supposed to and can contain up to 6x the amount of heavy metals listed.

A scientist from the agricultural agency in Oregon also categorically stated that given the analysis they did, that it was also obvious Advanced Nutrients make their products from contaminated impure sources...

Just a little FYI

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Hmm.

I went to Dr. Google and it seems that the list of unregistered products is from 2010. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like there might be some bad information about there about what's going on.

Like I said though, maybe I'm reading that wrong. And I don't live in Oregon, so I can't really speak to the truth of what's happening in hydro stores.

Anyone in the state have the real facts about what's going on?