Advice On Bat Guano PLEASE.

adamcarr1

Member
Hey Guys,

Looking for a bit of advice from you experienced growers on bat guano. Specifically, Guano Tea.

I mixed up a batch 2 days ago. At first, it had that normal guano smell. But I've just given it
another stir and the smell has gone from the normal guano smell to a kinda bad egg smell.

Is this normal when mixing up guano tea? Is it still ok to use on my plants?

Thanks in advance for any help. It would be very appreciated.
 

SpicySativa

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You need to keep the tea aerated using an air pump, air stones, etc. The rotten egg smell indicates that the concoction went anaerobic (BAD). Do not use that stuff.

If you don't have the proper equipment to keep a brew aerobic, you're better off just top dressing h each pot with 1/2 to 1 TBSP of guano and then laying down a half inch or so of compost or worm castings over the top
of it.
 

charface

Well-Known Member
How did you mix up the batch?

Airstone or just soak?

Was there molases etc...
Batshit does stink though.
 

adamcarr1

Member
Thanks fellas. Much appreciated. I only mixed up a small amount. But didn't use an airstone with it. Damn it! First time
I've used guano so thought I just needed to mix it up and it would be fine. Then smelt it before and it stunk. I'll get
myself an airstone and get another mix going. Cheers guys.
 

charface

Well-Known Member
I diddnt see spicy had posted.
That always happens then it looks like
im a dink.
Oh well. lol
 

adamcarr1

Member
Don't beat yourself up mate, I mixed guano and expected it to stay fresh without an air stone or anything. How u think I feel?? hahaha. DOH!
 

May11th

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Haha. That's like me making up a strong tea and letting her sit out overnight in 90 degrees then to open a closed container of this to feed plants in the morning, barf. Stinky ass stuff
 

kratos015

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I mixed up guano in just water n shits fine...
You need to be very careful when doing this, if you're outdoors and growing monsters they might be able to handle it. But typically, guano is very hot right out of the bag and if too much is used you can in fact burn/kill your plants. The problem with guano is that it hasn't decomposed yet, that's why you "cook" it in your soil for 30+ days or brew it in tea because both of these methods allow the guano to properly decompose. Mixing up guano and water in a gallon jug can in fact work, but if I had to guess I'd imagine you're using these for outdoor plants? Making a slurry out of guano means that, again, it hasn't decomposed completely. So it's gonna decompose inside of your soil over the next month, then after it's cooked in your soil a bit will you start seeing the benefits from the guano. You have to be absolutely certain your plants can handle that much guano though, or you will burn them. A lot of compost tea recipes call for using over 1/2 cup of guanos sometimes and I guarantee you're gonna burn your plants using that much guano in your teas, I know this from experience sadly :(

This thread is over a month old, but on the off chance anyone else comes in here looking for some advice I'd like to chime in on some things.

First, the type of pump you'll need will depend entirely on the amount you plan on brewing. A basic aquarium pump will get the job done for most indoor gardens, I've had great success with properly aerating my teas with my simple $20 aquarium pump I purchased from Petco. Again, it costs around $20 and it comes with 4 air holes to connect tubing into. In my experience, if you use all 4 tubes in one 5 gallon bucket you can get away with properly brewing a tea with that pump. I've noticed even better results just brewing 2 and a half gallons of tea, since I dilute it 1:1 anyway. The more air you're getting the better. If you're looking to make large 20 gallon totes of tea at a time for your outdoor plants, you're gonna need something powerful like this

http://www.amazon.com/Rio-Plus-1400-Aqua-Pump/dp/B000IMXTCG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1395361085&sr=8-5&keywords=aquarium+pump

Cleaning these aren't too hard either, just let them sit in a solution of 91% ISO alcohol and hydrogen peroxide and bubble for 24 hours. Then rinse them off and re-use. When working with air stones though, I find it's better to just replace them after 3-4 brews. Only cost me $1 per air stone and they last me for about a month. Seeing as it's less than $10/month to get them new all the time I just go with that. Also, be sure to use pure RO water. Whether you get it from an RO machine or those local water vending machines, as long as it is pure water. Most tap water is too hard and full of chloramine which will destroy your microlife you're trying to breed in the tea. If you use RO water, you'll notice an immediate difference. Think about the water you drink. Do you drink tap water ever? Personally, my stomach gets very upset if I drink too much of my tap water. If it does that to me I can't imagine what it must be doing to my plants!

To make your tea REALLY shine, here are some things you can add to it. Please bear in mind these ingredients are per gallon. With guano teas, you likely won't want to use more than 1-2tbsp per gallon of clean RO water. Anyway, extra things to add are

- 1/2-1 cup Earthworm Castings
- 1 tsp Seaweed and/or Liquid Fish (Maxicrop makes great liquid versions of both)
- 1 tsp molasses
- 1-2 tbsp Kelp and/or Alfalfa Meal

If you throw all those into your tea (again these are per gallon of RO water) you'll be amazed with the results.
 

greenghost420

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i agree with you whole heartedly! im using on indoor plants tho lol. in somas book he gives the recipe. im using a 0-5-0 he uses 2-12-2 so almost a third strength. i started out low dosage and upping it slowly. i have found the threshold for one plant,but the other wants more lol i am still testing!!! im already impressed honestly and its only been a week...i know you said a month and i would agree if i werent seeing results. uber sticky n smelly.
 

KLITE

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To make your tea REALLY shine, here are some things you can add to it. Please bear in mind these ingredients are per gallon. With guano teas, you likely won't want to use more than 1-2tbsp per gallon of clean RO water. Anyway, extra things to add are

- 1/2-1 cup Earthworm Castings
- 1 tsp Seaweed and/or Liquid Fish (Maxicrop makes great liquid versions of both)
- 1 tsp molasses
- 1-2 tbsp Kelp and/or Alfalfa Meal

If you throw all those into your tea (again these are per gallon of RO water) you'll be amazed with the results.
My recipe is almost exactly this except for the castings i only put 2 cups in 5 gallons, isnt 5 cups of worm castings a bit extreme? Also i put half a cup of guano. My tea usually comes out close to 800ppm and iusually water it down until about 400 ppm.
I never seen flowring plants' leaves shine as much as when given a well brewed foamy tea.:mrgreen:
 

kratos015

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My recipe is almost exactly this except for the castings i only put 2 cups in 5 gallons, isnt 5 cups of worm castings a bit extreme? Also i put half a cup of guano. My tea usually comes out close to 800ppm and iusually water it down until about 400 ppm.
I never seen flowring plants' leaves shine as much as when given a well brewed foamy tea.:mrgreen:
Well, I only brew 2 to 2 1/2 gallons at most so I never really use more than a cup or two max. I know you can't overdo it with EWC, but after a while it just becomes a waste. I think two cups would work just fine for 5 gallons but I'm no expert. Was just posting what works for me :)
 

KLITE

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Wow you guys check this out.

I was brewing a tea with 2 cups of worm castings, 2 tbsp of kelp and alfafa 25ml of molasses. Ever since i read what i thought was a ridiculous absurdity or ewc in the tea its been grinding at me, so 1 day into breweing i put an extra 2 cups of worm castings in the 20 l bucket. I go to check on it before watering 24 hours later and boom check this snot ball out, fucking unreal:

snot.jpg

Came out at 0.7 ec. I will try again putting 4 cups and if it comes out that foamy again im fucking sold, never seen it that foamy before. Feel like starting a how foamy van your teas get thread lol
 
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