ADVICE ON MONSTER CROP CLONES IN DADS VIALLS U.S.A

Shmike111

Member
Hi
Thanks to you Guy's I have been learning/problem solving from this site for some year's.
I have only grew an hand full of plants in the last 6-7 years.
8x Wedding cake Clones -20L Coco in AirPots, 660w dual & hps 2-3 Weeks Veg 22 Oz dry weight from 8.plants (I did not veg long enough but the quality of the bud I was very pleased.
Then grew 2 X G.C in 5 Gal Grow Bags, 6-7 week veg, flowered using 1 X 1000w double-ended HPS and 2 GoldStar cool lights 660w each HPS and got 18 Oz dry off the 2.plants 3 lights
I have had a difficult time getting cuttings
Eventually I have ended up with 4. He said some are sweet valley kush and I cannot remember the other name because I think he was just talking BS and didn't know what they were himself.
I put them straight into 18 l Square buckets 2 inches of clay pebbles in the bottom topped up with gold label 60/40. I added more clay balls so more like 70/30
After a short while the leaf formation look like something from a carrot and others all twisted and mangled up little bit of research I have found out he has probably took these from the second week of flower.
Two of them are grown pretty quickly and the other two are a little bit slower still Hugh growth less leaves but massive and more wide.
The tallest one has probably got about 100 flowersite on it and about 8 inches tall loads of branches look banging.
Initially I was going to flower in the same bucket used all the way through but I have decided to do about an 8-week veg and transplant them into 50l grow bags using the same gold label 60/40 with a couple of inches of clay balls in the bottom. I will not be adding any extra clear balls in with the mix as I will have to feed too frequently but it's only for plants so I'm not bothered.
I used rhizotonic on the first couple of feeds without nutrients. Sprayed 5 x day for 3 days. I could not believe the size they went to within a couple of days.
I got them on an 18/6 light schedule.
I have put a partition wall up in the large room to make an area about 1.5 m by 5 m the room next to it is about 4 m by 4 m which is going to be the flower room.
Both rooms have got an 8 amp SMS com fan control units
I have got an air diffuser 250 in the veg room and a 250mm outtake which is controlled by the fan control unit.
I have got 6x 200mm goldstar cool lights the dimensions of the lights are 660 mm buy 530mm 320mm high. The light coverage is 2.2 m by 1.2 m.
I have got five of these small compact lights about 4 inches thick the way the tin is folded inside allows the heat to come out the top and the intensity of the light to shine down on the plant they are about 10 inches by 6 inches by 4 inches I have got 1 of them 15" above the 4 on 600 watt dual spectrum light above the 4 plants in square containers with a turbo air circulating fan blowing hard on them helping the stalk become thicker and when I hold my hand there is no heat discomfort. Also the outtake is directly above the light
I have also got 2x Lumii 1000w double-ended HPS lightsfor flower
I have lots of 12 inch rvk fans and a couple of box fans 12" 3250 M3.
2 gallon A and b
1 gallon rhizotonic
1 gallon of cannazym
2 x gallons of canna Boost accelerator
1 Gallon of CalMac which I do not need because I've got hard water and canna is designed for hard water.
The PK that I have got is 18/20. My first question is can I use this or should I invest in PK 13/14 and could you please give me a reason as to why please
I had heard of a monster crop before but never knew exactly what it was until the other week.
I think I said above the four are going from 18L veg to 50L before flower.
I have got a massive net that will work as a scrog net it's about 20 feet by 10 feet. I have got no experience with scrog but I am going to give it a go after watching several videos I have a little more confidence.
What I need to know is when should I transplant to 50 L ? I intend on putting 1 X 1000 watt light each above 2 of them, 1 for each plant and 2 X 660 watt lights above the other 2.
2x 660 w lights above each plant for the other 2?
I have 200mm cooled lights and rvk inline fans to exhaust the heat from the 660 watt and I am going to modify a couple of the cool lights so that they can take the 1000-watt double ended bulbs so I can get rid of the heat.
I have got a lot of 12 inch acoustic ducting 12-inch fans 12-inch so the temperature will not be a problem.
I was planning on building 4 separate stations
One plant in each station plant number one will have 1000-watt light number two will have 1000-watt light number three will have two lights at 660 Watts each and plant 4 will have 2 lights at 660 each.
Will I have to transplant them soon to be able to put a net over the top?
Or can I just tie down all of the branches LST try and keep doing that until a week or so before flower.
My aim is to get as much blood as possible I have got a load of standard wing lights. Lots of 600 HP's bulbs.
Electricity and feeds other no problem I do not need to weigh up the costs to see if it is worth it I've got everything and electricity no problem.
By what I have read I will be best off taken cuttings off these 4 when they have been in flower for around 3 or 4 weeks?
I cannot get hold of cuttings and I do not want to do seeds. If I took some cuttings off these in a couple of weeks. Say week 5 of veg would they still come out like a monster cropped clone or would have just been like a normal clone and would I get a normal yield or above-average yield with a pain from a monster crop clone taken before flower.
I will definitely be monster crop and again with them but want around 10 cuttings pretty soon not wanting to wait a long time as I am planning on Veg for as long as I have to to get maximum yield.
With it being a monster crop by your knowledge or experience will I be best off giving them plenty of space and let them grow in the big room or putting a net over them and keep them in veg longer.
Also the cool lights I have got can stand on the floor and give you all of the sides light if necessary or will I be best off lollipopping I am not sure I've got no experience whatsoever with monster cropping and my experience with growing in general is basic but effective.
Thank you for reading my post. I have pdsd and struggle to say what I mean. Sorry if I have went in to to much or lack of detail for the answers I would like (I am working on it.)
My light has just come on I will get a picture for you.
The last picture was only taken the other week when I first put them in so they have group 10 to 15 times the size in no time at all.
 

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twentyeight.threefive

Well-Known Member
Hi
Thanks to you Guy's I have been learning/problem solving from this site for some year's.
I have only grew an hand full of plants in the last 6-7 years.
8x Wedding cake Clones -20L Coco in AirPots, 660w dual & hps 2-3 Weeks Veg 22 Oz dry weight from 8.plants (I did not veg long enough but the quality of the bud I was very pleased.
Then grew 2 X G.C in 5 Gal Grow Bags, 6-7 week veg, flowered using 1 X 1000w double-ended HPS and 2 GoldStar cool lights 660w each HPS and got 18 Oz dry off the 2.plants 3 lights
I have had a difficult time getting cuttings
Eventually I have ended up with 4. He said some are sweet valley kush and I cannot remember the other name because I think he was just talking BS and didn't know what they were himself.
I put them straight into 18 l Square buckets 2 inches of clay pebbles in the bottom topped up with gold label 60/40. I added more clay balls so more like 70/30
After a short while the leaf formation look like something from a carrot and others all twisted and mangled up little bit of research I have found out he has probably took these from the second week of flower.
Two of them are grown pretty quickly and the other two are a little bit slower still Hugh growth less leaves but massive and more wide.
The tallest one has probably got about 100 flowersite on it and about 8 inches tall loads of branches look banging.
Initially I was going to flower in the same bucket used all the way through but I have decided to do about an 8-week veg and transplant them into 50l grow bags using the same gold label 60/40 with a couple of inches of clay balls in the bottom. I will not be adding any extra clear balls in with the mix as I will have to feed too frequently but it's only for plants so I'm not bothered.
I used rhizotonic on the first couple of feeds without nutrients. Sprayed 5 x day for 3 days. I could not believe the size they went to within a couple of days.
I got them on an 18/6 light schedule.
I have put a partition wall up in the large room to make an area about 1.5 m by 5 m the room next to it is about 4 m by 4 m which is going to be the flower room.
Both rooms have got an 8 amp SMS com fan control units
I have got an air diffuser 250 in the veg room and a 250mm outtake which is controlled by the fan control unit.
I have got 6x 200mm goldstar cool lights the dimensions of the lights are 660 mm buy 530mm 320mm high. The light coverage is 2.2 m by 1.2 m.
I have got five of these small compact lights about 4 inches thick the way the tin is folded inside allows the heat to come out the top and the intensity of the light to shine down on the plant they are about 10 inches by 6 inches by 4 inches I have got 1 of them 15" above the 4 on 600 watt dual spectrum light above the 4 plants in square containers with a turbo air circulating fan blowing hard on them helping the stalk become thicker and when I hold my hand there is no heat discomfort. Also the outtake is directly above the light
I have also got 2x Lumii 1000w double-ended HPS lightsfor flower
I have lots of 12 inch rvk fans and a couple of box fans 12" 3250 M3.
2 gallon A and b
1 gallon rhizotonic
1 gallon of cannazym
2 x gallons of canna Boost accelerator
1 Gallon of CalMac which I do not need because I've got hard water and canna is designed for hard water.
The PK that I have got is 18/20. My first question is can I use this or should I invest in PK 13/14 and could you please give me a reason as to why please
I had heard of a monster crop before but never knew exactly what it was until the other week.
I think I said above the four are going from 18L veg to 50L before flower.
I have got a massive net that will work as a scrog net it's about 20 feet by 10 feet. I have got no experience with scrog but I am going to give it a go after watching several videos I have a little more confidence.
What I need to know is when should I transplant to 50 L ? I intend on putting 1 X 1000 watt light each above 2 of them, 1 for each plant and 2 X 660 watt lights above the other 2.
2x 660 w lights above each plant for the other 2?
I have 200mm cooled lights and rvk inline fans to exhaust the heat from the 660 watt and I am going to modify a couple of the cool lights so that they can take the 1000-watt double ended bulbs so I can get rid of the heat.
I have got a lot of 12 inch acoustic ducting 12-inch fans 12-inch so the temperature will not be a problem.
I was planning on building 4 separate stations
One plant in each station plant number one will have 1000-watt light number two will have 1000-watt light number three will have two lights at 660 Watts each and plant 4 will have 2 lights at 660 each.
Will I have to transplant them soon to be able to put a net over the top?
Or can I just tie down all of the branches LST try and keep doing that until a week or so before flower.
My aim is to get as much blood as possible I have got a load of standard wing lights. Lots of 600 HP's bulbs.
Electricity and feeds other no problem I do not need to weigh up the costs to see if it is worth it I've got everything and electricity no problem.
By what I have read I will be best off taken cuttings off these 4 when they have been in flower for around 3 or 4 weeks?
I cannot get hold of cuttings and I do not want to do seeds. If I took some cuttings off these in a couple of weeks. Say week 5 of veg would they still come out like a monster cropped clone or would have just been like a normal clone and would I get a normal yield or above-average yield with a pain from a monster crop clone taken before flower.
I will definitely be monster crop and again with them but want around 10 cuttings pretty soon not wanting to wait a long time as I am planning on Veg for as long as I have to to get maximum yield.
With it being a monster crop by your knowledge or experience will I be best off giving them plenty of space and let them grow in the big room or putting a net over them and keep them in veg longer.
Also the cool lights I have got can stand on the floor and give you all of the sides light if necessary or will I be best off lollipopping I am not sure I've got no experience whatsoever with monster cropping and my experience with growing in general is basic but effective.
Thank you for reading my post. I have pdsd and struggle to say what I mean. Sorry if I have went in to to much or lack of detail for the answers I would like (I am working on it.)
My light has just come on I will get a picture for you.
The last picture was only taken the other week when I first put them in so they have group 10 to 15 times the size in no time at all.
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