AeroGarden Grow Journal *First Timer* (Skunk/Jamaican)
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raggamuffin
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yea 20/4, dat lighting for a couple days should kik da thirsting, you no until they get back on track wit watering schedule, but NUTE BLOCK? woo dat presents a whole new situation, now there are products for nute block, jus Google, how are they since dat last pic. i aint gone lie it was scary lookin at'um go thru dat wilting, hope they bounce back, i think they will tho
raggamuffin
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But after being in your tank for 5 or 6 days, and being eaten from for 5 or 6 days, they become imbalanced. Perhaps you are growing plants that ate all the nitrogen first and just snacked around the iron, magnesium and calcium, or visa versa. The results are discoloration in the leaves, yellowing or rust spots, or curling up of leaf tips. It also becomes apparent when your plants were consuming a gallon or half gallon of water every day, and then suddenly when you check the levels the next day, they did not drink any water at all. This is NUTRITIONAL LOCKOUT.
Instead of giving lengthy descriptions of indications of overfeeding, underfeeding, ph imbalance, environmental problems and Nutritional Lockout here, it is easier to just give the remedy. Here we will refer to this remedy as THE RECUPERATION AND RECOVERY REMEDY.
THE 8 STEP RECUPERATION AND RECOVERY REMEDY
1. Check the roots. If they are discolored, reddish or brown, or present an unpleasant odor, you have a problem. If they are weak, soft or mushy, you have a problem. Also while checking the roots, observe the temperature of the water. If it is warmer than "luke warm" you have a problem. This problem is probably what is referred to as "root rot" or a disease known as PYTHIUM. Remove the dead brown roots by trimming them away with sharp scissors. Do not leave them in the tank.
2. Check the humidity and temperature of the grow area below the lights in the "growing zone" when the lights are on. A temperature of above 82 degrees or below 67 degrees will slow growth, but it is not a serious problem that will kill your plants. Temperatures below 62 degrees or above 90 degrees will stop growth. An extremely high temperature in the upper 90s or below 58 degrees can slowly result in death of your plants. The most efficient temps for growth are between 72 to 80 degrees. Any Humidity between 40 and 60 percent is acceptable and desirable.
3. Check the "lights off, nighttime" temperature. Most desirable is ten to 15 degrees cooler than the daytime "lights on" temperature, averaging 66 to 70 degrees.
4. Check the distance between the tips of the plant and the tip of the light bulb. If you observe yellowing or leaf curling tips, then move the lights one inch further away. A good rule of thumb if you use HID lights, is hold the soft palm of your hand at the leaf tip and see if the bulb is too warm to your hand. If you use Stealth Hydro's compact fluorescent bulbs, we recommend a distance of three or four inches for the 65 and 85 watt bulbs and 4 inches to five inches for the 105 watt bulbs. More mature plants can handle the bulbs slightly closer.
5. Check the position of your fans. Air movement is very necessary for the health of your plants, but too strong of a fan can cause wind burn. Direct your fan toward the tops of the plants and toward the lights. Never position the fan blowing strongly downward on the leaves.
6. Add 1/4 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide to a quart of water and add it to the tank of six gallons already in the tank. Wait ten minutes and then turn the water and nutrition solution pump off to prepare to drain the tank. Poor at least a cup of clean water through each grow cup, onto each rockwool cube and through the hydroton rocks.
7. Drain or pump the tank empty as possible without damaging the pump by running it dry. Add two gallons of additional clean water with 1/4 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide again and then drain it away too. Again, empty the tank as empty as possible without burning up your pump.
8. Add fresh PH balanced water and nutritional packets as prescribed. PH test it again.
The above 8 steps should repair and remedy any health problems that your plants experienced within the next two days. Now is the time to try and determine what caused the problem to start with, by investigating and researching typical hydroponics problems and illnesses. Here are a few DIAGNOSIS TIPS.
Instead of giving lengthy descriptions of indications of overfeeding, underfeeding, ph imbalance, environmental problems and Nutritional Lockout here, it is easier to just give the remedy. Here we will refer to this remedy as THE RECUPERATION AND RECOVERY REMEDY.
THE 8 STEP RECUPERATION AND RECOVERY REMEDY
1. Check the roots. If they are discolored, reddish or brown, or present an unpleasant odor, you have a problem. If they are weak, soft or mushy, you have a problem. Also while checking the roots, observe the temperature of the water. If it is warmer than "luke warm" you have a problem. This problem is probably what is referred to as "root rot" or a disease known as PYTHIUM. Remove the dead brown roots by trimming them away with sharp scissors. Do not leave them in the tank.
2. Check the humidity and temperature of the grow area below the lights in the "growing zone" when the lights are on. A temperature of above 82 degrees or below 67 degrees will slow growth, but it is not a serious problem that will kill your plants. Temperatures below 62 degrees or above 90 degrees will stop growth. An extremely high temperature in the upper 90s or below 58 degrees can slowly result in death of your plants. The most efficient temps for growth are between 72 to 80 degrees. Any Humidity between 40 and 60 percent is acceptable and desirable.
3. Check the "lights off, nighttime" temperature. Most desirable is ten to 15 degrees cooler than the daytime "lights on" temperature, averaging 66 to 70 degrees.
4. Check the distance between the tips of the plant and the tip of the light bulb. If you observe yellowing or leaf curling tips, then move the lights one inch further away. A good rule of thumb if you use HID lights, is hold the soft palm of your hand at the leaf tip and see if the bulb is too warm to your hand. If you use Stealth Hydro's compact fluorescent bulbs, we recommend a distance of three or four inches for the 65 and 85 watt bulbs and 4 inches to five inches for the 105 watt bulbs. More mature plants can handle the bulbs slightly closer.
5. Check the position of your fans. Air movement is very necessary for the health of your plants, but too strong of a fan can cause wind burn. Direct your fan toward the tops of the plants and toward the lights. Never position the fan blowing strongly downward on the leaves.
6. Add 1/4 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide to a quart of water and add it to the tank of six gallons already in the tank. Wait ten minutes and then turn the water and nutrition solution pump off to prepare to drain the tank. Poor at least a cup of clean water through each grow cup, onto each rockwool cube and through the hydroton rocks.
7. Drain or pump the tank empty as possible without damaging the pump by running it dry. Add two gallons of additional clean water with 1/4 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide again and then drain it away too. Again, empty the tank as empty as possible without burning up your pump.
8. Add fresh PH balanced water and nutritional packets as prescribed. PH test it again.
The above 8 steps should repair and remedy any health problems that your plants experienced within the next two days. Now is the time to try and determine what caused the problem to start with, by investigating and researching typical hydroponics problems and illnesses. Here are a few DIAGNOSIS TIPS.
raggamuffin
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Underfeeding and Weak Nutrition
The entire plant, both upper and lower leaves, will show lime or light green in color.
The plant will not eat, drink or show growth.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Overfeeding, Use of Too Strong Nutrients
The leaves will curl downward. They grow very dark dull flat green and then the tips show signs of burn.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Nutritional Lockout
You know that you have made recent PH adjustments. You might know you may have used too much of the PH Adjustment Solution. You may have failed to test the PH often enough. You notice the plants did not eat or drink because they did not consume the same amount of water they used yesterday. You see rust spots. The large lower leaves are prematurely dying and you are not in the BLOOMING or FLOWERING stage.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Wind Burn
You had the fan blowing downward toward the upper side of the leaves, instead of blowing up through the node spaces or toward the lights. You observe the leaves becoming dry or even crispy, perhaps shriveling, and the tips curling upward. The leaves do not appear glossy, moist and vibrant.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Water, Nutrition Solution or Roots Are Discolored Brown Or Have an Unpleasant Odor
You notice your water is becoming brownish in color, or smells distasteful. Your solution does not smell pleasant and appetizing like fresh lettuce. Your roots are not the same shade of white that they once were a week ago.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
The entire plant, both upper and lower leaves, will show lime or light green in color.
The plant will not eat, drink or show growth.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Overfeeding, Use of Too Strong Nutrients
The leaves will curl downward. They grow very dark dull flat green and then the tips show signs of burn.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Nutritional Lockout
You know that you have made recent PH adjustments. You might know you may have used too much of the PH Adjustment Solution. You may have failed to test the PH often enough. You notice the plants did not eat or drink because they did not consume the same amount of water they used yesterday. You see rust spots. The large lower leaves are prematurely dying and you are not in the BLOOMING or FLOWERING stage.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Wind Burn
You had the fan blowing downward toward the upper side of the leaves, instead of blowing up through the node spaces or toward the lights. You observe the leaves becoming dry or even crispy, perhaps shriveling, and the tips curling upward. The leaves do not appear glossy, moist and vibrant.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
Water, Nutrition Solution or Roots Are Discolored Brown Or Have an Unpleasant Odor
You notice your water is becoming brownish in color, or smells distasteful. Your solution does not smell pleasant and appetizing like fresh lettuce. Your roots are not the same shade of white that they once were a week ago.
It is time to follow the 8 Step Remedy.
rik4life
Active Member
no idea what i should do now. They havent drank any water since thursday and the plants r just looking worse n worse everyday. The water is exceptionally hot, way warmer then normal .... any idea why ? All the leaves on the plants are dried out and dead looking .... if there isnt a quick fix or a solution to this, i think i'll just let them be for a week more and if no life is shown then im calling it quits ..... fucking sucks leaving ur plants with people that dont know how to put water in a tank lol
any help is appreciated. Like i said earlier, the tank water is super warm and they arent drinking any of it !
RIK
any help is appreciated. Like i said earlier, the tank water is super warm and they arent drinking any of it !
RIK
rik4life
Active Member
actually i lied, yesturday the water was super super warm but today when i just literally checked it the water is at a nice room temperature. The roots are nice and white and have ZERO smell to them. Right now i think its nute lock since i added nutrients the day after they were deprived of water and at that point they were chugging the water ! Besides the leaves all being dried out all the other factors are perfect. How long with nute lock last ? the ph of the water is 6.5-6.7 ..... please help lol after saying i may quit in my last post it makes me want to get these plants back going a.s.a.p !!!!
AGSteve
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i here you bro, the 'leaving your plants with people that don't...'
. i didn't want to say anything bad about the person you entrusted your babies to, earlier on, but they did look maltreated.
AGSteve
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any pics? just keep giving them ph'd water until they perk up.
lurkmaster
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Cool deal man, glad to see your plants are trying to recover. Good luck reviving these.
rik4life
Active Member
What up Everyone,
Its been awhile since my last post .... unfortunately the girls didnt make it. They basically stopped drinking water after being deprived of it for a day. The entire plant just started to dry up and that was the end of it. Ive cleaned up my AeroGarden along with all my other grow shit, put it in a box and am waiting until september to start growing again !
Since this was my first grow, i would have to say that everything went almost perfectly. Besides having a shitty timer there werent any other problems. My only lesson learnt is that if you start a grow, dont leave it with other people .... i saw 2 months of good work go down the drain in 24 hours ..... it sucked lol
Subscribe to this if you have enjoyed it and when i start back up in september ill post the link to it in here !!
Thanks everyone for the help and good luck on your grows
RIK4LIFE :leafs:
Its been awhile since my last post .... unfortunately the girls didnt make it. They basically stopped drinking water after being deprived of it for a day. The entire plant just started to dry up and that was the end of it. Ive cleaned up my AeroGarden along with all my other grow shit, put it in a box and am waiting until september to start growing again !
Since this was my first grow, i would have to say that everything went almost perfectly. Besides having a shitty timer there werent any other problems. My only lesson learnt is that if you start a grow, dont leave it with other people .... i saw 2 months of good work go down the drain in 24 hours ..... it sucked lol
Subscribe to this if you have enjoyed it and when i start back up in september ill post the link to it in here !!
Thanks everyone for the help and good luck on your grows
RIK4LIFE :leafs:
raggamuffin
Active Member
Yea thats crazy cause you we're the only one here i seen use da space saver 6....an you were like a week ahead of my 2 girls now Ladys, i had dropped my seeds[bagseed] I-16 out of 5 3 sprouted, den outa da 3 one was male......they in there 5th week 12/12 now, Dam I was gonna match bowls wit you DAM,
lurkmaster
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never noticed this until now, but are you still hanging your hood with duck tape?
I think you can ask SICC about this, but generally speaking its a bad idea to hang stuff with duck tape, lol.
I think you can ask SICC about this, but generally speaking its a bad idea to hang stuff with duck tape, lol.
lurkmaster
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Lol
HarvestFest2010
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i come in and read the whole thing. Maybe like any living thing, be easy........try usiing less water.....the lights heated the water up probly.