Afghan Kush Ryder & Boss Hogg 2nd grow!

KushCanuck

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I have finally managed to get 75 degree fahrenheit and 46% humidity, now all I want to add is a DWC system and maybe one of those tower fans that you can add ice to! I saw this little machine at my local hydro store that you just fill with ice and it cools down your grow room, sound familiar to anyone? I am looking to get one online maybe. If anyone knows a cool diy dwc system it would be appreciated if you could point me that way as I have decided to try out hydro for the next grow.
I will highly recommend General Hydroponics 3-part if you`re going to do hydro. PM me and I can hit you up with a fool-proof nutrient schedule that should be great for The Hog and the Afghan in DWC. The Afghan was one of my first, would recommend doing an OG18 if you like it, more yield, more potency. Better all around IMO

KC :weed:
 

CaliforniaTHC

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Well not much going on for the girls all in all today, it seems as if the mutant is looking healthiest because it took no damage from the light. I plan to water around mid-day tomorrow and I think I have what it takes to keep these babies alive throughout their life :) I grew a bunch of beastly sativas my first grow it was a nightmare keeping track of all of them, I find that indicas are easier to grow and growing 1 or two different strains makes it easier as well :D
 

CaliforniaTHC

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Hey guys coming in with an update i switched to a MH light, the growth wasnt going as fast as I would have liked however the boss hogg is looking taller! The akrs are working on their third nodes and I saw some little bugs that were dead near the bottom of my pots that looked like lady bugs but with orange wings....? I didn't want to risk them being bad little buggers so I bombed the room with a hotshot fogger. Since I have switched to MH temps have dropped about 5-8 degrees which is actually awesome for me :leaf:
The tip of the leaf on the akr looked like it got a little worse with those burns which was surprising because I thought it was the lights causing the burn in the first place, so I just cut off the tip of that leaf and I think its starting to make spots again where I cut the tip if anyone can tell me whats wrong that would be greatly appreciated. The little mutant looks fine! Same strain, soil, water.
 

KushCanuck

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The tip of the leaf on the akr looked like it got a little worse with those burns which was surprising because I thought it was the lights causing the burn in the first place, so I just cut off the tip of that leaf and I think its starting to make spots again where I cut the tip if anyone can tell me whats wrong that would be greatly appreciated. The little mutant looks fine! Same strain, soil, water.
Just give it some time mate. I don`t cut off fan leaves personally unless they`re not recieving light from a packed canopy. They`ll either heal themeselves or they won`t, just focus on the new growth. As long as it`s not exhibiting scorching or the like, you`ll be just fine, especially now you`ve dropped room temps slightly :). She just needs an adjustment period, hence why the others are looking good, looking forward to the next installment !!

KC :weed:
 

CaliforniaTHC

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Just give it some time mate. I don`t cut off fan leaves personally unless they`re not recieving light from a packed canopy. They`ll either heal themeselves or they won`t, just focus on the new growth. As long as it`s not exhibiting scorching or the like, you`ll be just fine, especially now you`ve dropped room temps slightly :). She just needs an adjustment period, hence why the others are looking good, looking forward to the next installment !!

KC :weed:
Lol, the new growth coming in looks fine for the first couple days, the second node has come out nicely and is now working on its third and fourth node it seems, however the second node looks like it is starting to get what the other leaf had on its tip? The boss hogg is growing taller faster than its branching out, its third node is coming in and the second node is looking fine aside from dark greyish spot on the tip of one of the leaves. It seems it may have the same problem as the AKR, it started with dark grey spots, then turned into a more rusty looking burnt splotches kind of thing. I am probably just watering too often causing it to be over ferted because of the blood meal/bone meal and so on. I will hold back on the water now and I have been finger checking it regularly so I am going to wait 4-6 days between waterings instead of three, I dont think I am giving the root system enough time to dry out. The boss hogg looks really healthy aside from the tip of that one leaf and its growing faster than my autos so this will definitely be a keeper, it has a nice sturdy stem at such a young age! The autos stem looks wispy almost however the BH is alot more stalky. Surprisingly the mutant is working on its fourth node as of right now and is lush dark green in color, it is doing the best of all three and it only has one cotyledon.... If I cloned the mutant one do you think It would grow like a normal little girl or a mutant all the same? I plan to take a cutting off akr when I see the first signs of flowering, I plan on growing this boss hogg for a while as my sort of "main strain" just to get better at growing it so I can eventually have bigger yields and grow it outdoors. I might even take a cutting with me when I move lol.


Pictures will be up later tonight!
 

CaliforniaTHC

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Here we are some pictures!

0409131412.jpg0409131412a.jpgbosshoggside.jpg--boss hogg
0409131412b.jpgakrside.jpg--akr I dont know how clear that first pic is but if you look closely at the tips you can see what I am talking about
0409131414-1.jpg0409131414a-1.jpg--the mutant akr! It looks pretty good to me honestly, you will notice that the fan leaves are nice on one side and the other not so much, no they aren't drooping and I didn't cut them off, It just grew that way:lol:
 

CaliforniaTHC

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I will highly recommend General Hydroponics 3-part if you`re going to do hydro. PM me and I can hit you up with a fool-proof nutrient schedule that should be great for The Hog and the Afghan in DWC. The Afghan was one of my first, would recommend doing an OG18 if you like it, more yield, more potency. Better all around IMO

KC :weed:
This was a strain I was originally considering but chose the afghan because of its reviews, how much did you end up yielding ? Also do you think it's possible I have a potassium deficiency ?
 

KushCanuck

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This was a strain I was originally considering but chose the afghan because of its reviews, how much did you end up yielding ? Also do you think it's possible I have a potassium deficiency ?
I grow OG18 consistantly for patients of mine, usually 20-50 at a time depending on my case load. I can expect about 4-6 ounces per plant without issues under 400w lights (multiple tents). You could plan accordingly, I veg about 5-6 weeks, you could go longer with higher wattage I suppose, I just have my set-up done to a science and like the consistant results.

And those little guys are too young to have a deficiency, just watch that the yellowing doesn`t spread or the veins don`t discolour. What`s your schedule like right now?

KC :weed:
 

CaliforniaTHC

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How long do you veg for it? & how many weeks of flower?
Water when they need it 20/4 lights. AC shuts off when the lights do, I came back today an saw that I had left it on solar instead of neutral(I have solar panels) and probably used all the power, not sure how Lon the AC was off. It was 115 Fahrenheit and I didn't see and tips turning up although the akrs new growth looks really yellow, and like I said it kind of is spreading to the new tips you can see in the pics.

As for the science, what's the formula?
I am going to be trying to do a perpetual grow with one tent lol, not really sure how I am going to do it.... but I might just do a 12/12 from clone grow, take cuttings at week two after the clone roots and I think its able to be re vegged, I just do the clones 2 weeks apart each and I should be able to maintain a perpetual harvest with only one tent :twisted:
What size tents are you using and how many plants' i know people who buy huge tents and grow one DWC blue dreAM, he yielded 4 pounds. Used a 1000W ....sorry for all the mistakes im on my android :p
Man i am mystified as to why the middle akr is freaking out so much, could it be the hydroton or light intensity? The new growth (hasnt really came in full yet just poppin out for a day or so now, looks bannana yellow, I am pretty sure it was the heat again.

As for my next grow I am already trying to get it planned out. Im thinking recirculating DWC for boss hogg strain only. I plan to take cuttings from the boss hogg and (i will have the dwc setup by then) and start them in peat pellets. Ill take each cutting 2 weeks apart (2 cuttings each time) and ill use the best two and put them in the tent with their mother, as soon as I see signs of flowering in the cuttings, usually after 2-3 weeks, i will clone the one arthest along and im not sure what i could use as a remedy for the shock, i could just do this over and over again
 

KushCanuck

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Alright bear with me here Cali, going to ttry to address this one by one for ease of reference,

How long do you veg for it? & how many weeks of flower?
They veg (also see above) for 5-6 weeks, 3-4 weeks at 24/0, and another 2 @ 18/6 before going into flower. They regularily flower in 52-54 days like clockwork, excellent density.

Water when they need it 20/4 lights. AC shuts off when the lights do, I came back today an saw that I had left it on solar instead of neutral(I have solar panels) and probably used all the power, not sure how Lon the AC was off. It was 115 Fahrenheit and I didn't see and tips turning up although the akrs new growth looks really yellow, and like I said it kind of is spreading to the new tips you can see in the pics.
Your new yellowing will be from heat stress, haha. however you`ve already diagnosed that issue and why it happened, so you`re good there :p


As for the science, what's the formula?
I am going to be trying to do a perpetual grow with one tent lol, not really sure how I am going to do it.... but I might just do a 12/12 from clone grow, take cuttings at week two after the clone roots and I think its able to be re vegged, I just do the clones 2 weeks apart each and I should be able to maintain a perpetual harvest with only one tent :twisted: ?
My very first perpetual, before patient care was in my world, was also a one tent set-up. Built the room to 6x6x8 and recirculated 4-6 plants every 3 weeks (working with 9 weekers like the OG18). I used the same method as you described above, keeping 3-5 mothers, cloning until roots, pop in 2-3 gallon pot, flower. In such a space it`s really all I could do, howevr I was`n`t getting yields I wanted, had to change methods.

I now run 5 tents in `the factory` (1 mother, 1 clone/veg, 3 flower rooms), soon to be 6, as I like to have the veg cycle incoroporated for more root mass, stronger support, and ultimately bigger buds. My 6th tent will be used for selecting high quality males for breeding

What size tents are you using and how many plants' i know people who buy huge tents and grow one DWC blue dreAM, he yielded 4 pounds. Used a 1000W ....sorry for all the mistakes im on my android :p
All my tents are 4x4x6.5 (except for the mother tent, 2x4x6.5) and each tent holds 8 plants which nails pretty much 10-16 ounces every 3 weeks, sometimes higher, rarely lower (with 600w Horilux HPS bulbs). So you could just op for large, single plants as well, sure easier to manage than 20-30 flowering girls + veg and moms. But I like the work :)

As for my next grow I am already trying to get it planned out. Im thinking recirculating DWC for boss hogg strain only. I plan to take cuttings from the boss hogg and (i will have the dwc setup by then) and start them in peat pellets. Ill take each cutting 2 weeks apart (2 cuttings each time) and ill use the best two and put them in the tent with their mother, as soon as I see signs of flowering in the cuttings, usually after 2-3 weeks, i will clone the one arthest along and im not sure what i could use as a remedy for the shock, i could just do this over and over again
Add silicate for you shock remedy, helps the plants stay happy during periods of drought, high heat, ph swing, etc. Will do the trick nicely for you.

Picked myself up some Hog yesterday with some BuKu from THSeeds. Will get them going after I`m back from BC next week. I`ll be watching yours mate, hopefully I could be of some assistance to you,

KC :weed:
 

CaliforniaTHC

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I grow OG18 consistantly for patients of mine, usually 20-50 at a time depending on my case load. I can expect about 4-6 ounces per plant without issues under 400w lights (multiple tents). You could plan accordingly, I veg about 5-6 weeks, you could go longer with higher wattage I suppose, I just have my set-up done to a science and like the consistant results.

And those little guys are too young to have a deficiency, just watch that the yellowing doesn`t spread or the veins don`t discolour. What`s your schedule like right now?

KC :weed:
Whats that nute regimen you were tslking about?
 

CaliforniaTHC

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Ouch, sorry about length looking back on that one Cali :p

KC :weed:
Dont be, you are the man! Hahaha thanks for the response, my brother grows like this and he gets 2-3 ounces a plant, all being in one monster nug normally....would ask him his methods but we dont talk much any more
 

KushCanuck

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You`ll have to PM me for this one mate, trade secret. It`s organic mix, top to bottom, nothing supplemental in terms of feeding other than distilled water with 1ml/gallon of Superthrive. Low maintenance :cool:

Also think I typo`d 600w HPS above, the bulbs are 400w Horilux (perhaps wishing while typing they were 600`s, haha).

KC :weed:
 

KushCanuck

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You should be able to fit 16 plants in your tents, using the plant per sq ft rule of thumb.
Overcrowding is not cool though mate, especially when that set-up is strictly for patients, some of which would be up Shit Creek if they ingest ANY molds or the like. Play it safe, more than enough yeild per tent to satisfy my needs.

**EDIT - And if you grew the OG18 mate, you know there`s no way that rule of thumb would hold up. You have to have experience with a strain before you attempt a set-up like this **
KC :weed:
 

CaliforniaTHC

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You`ll have to PM me for this one mate, trade secret. It`s organic mix, top to bottom, nothing supplemental in terms of feeding other than distilled water with 1ml/gallon of Superthrive. Low maintenance :cool:

Also think I typo`d 600w HPS above, the bulbs are 400w Horilux (perhaps wishing while typing they were 600`s, haha).

KC :weed:
Dont we all? I have the same bulb, I got 4 of them for free from a friend who stopped growing, and a few old bottles of half full GH nutes.
Ive heard that some use them in veg so I tried and the growth isnt nearly as fast with MH.
 

CaliforniaTHC

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You`ll have to PM me for this one mate, trade secret. It`s organic mix, top to bottom, nothing supplemental in terms of feeding other than distilled water with 1ml/gallon of Superthrive. Low maintenance :cool:

Also think I typo`d 600w HPS above, the bulbs are 400w Horilux (perhaps wishing while typing they were 600`s, haha).

KC :weed:
Seems like everyones secret recipe has a little ST... Thanks for letting me in on the secret I will be sure to hit you up when I get ny hydro going. As for the breeding, if you are aldight with it, i would pay a lump sum for a few beans. Totally cool if not man I understand lol.
 

KushCanuck

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Dont we all? I have the same bulb, I got 4 of them for free from a friend who stopped growing, and a few old bottles of half full GH nutes.
Ive heard that some use them in veg so I tried and the growth isnt nearly as fast with MH.
I love the spectrum of the MH`s and they ar a perfect medium in terms of intensity. My plants really seem to like the slow change, especially before they hit the Hortilux`s which incorporate a lot of the violet, pink, green spectrums as well as reds. Just what I`ve noticed over the years with all the shiet I`ve used, haha

KC :weed:
 
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