after flushing using RO water yea or nay

rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel
So you must be able to taste all the nutrients and preservatives that our foods are pumped full of and aren't flushed before harvesting? Nutrients aren't stored in the buds and even if they were how would flushing pull them out? I do not want this to turn into another flushing vs not flushing debate because we already have about 100 of those threads on here already, but using that you are a supertaster as an argument for anything is just silly... At the end of the day people should do what they feel works best for them, but spouting nonsense does nothing for either side of the argument. Stay High!
 
montanachadly

montanachadly

Active Member
Smoking bud and eating are two different things no you bone head i cant taste every bit of different nutes that go into the bud i can just taste the difference from organically grown bud and fertilizer bud. I simply just think if your growing for medicinal that you should atleast flush or grow organic. It also doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell the difference between the type of ash you get when comparing the two when smoked. One is dirty and oily the other is not. I also never said that when you flush it pulls the heavy metals and different shit outta the bud cause when you use nutes with the stuff in it once its in it is in no getting rid of it that being said. My thoughts are is if you use a heavy amt of nutes you should flush its going to taste better and if you want your bud to taste even better than that grow organic.
 
montanachadly

montanachadly

Active Member
You better go back and read that post again i never said anything was fact i just said what i thought and my opinion. Your statement that nutrients arent stored in the buds is completly false its been lab tested that those trace metals do end up in your bud. But you obviously havent read that huh wow are you next going to tell me that all the hormones we give animals and then eat them have no effect either kids having there periods at 8. How do you even become a moderator on here?
 
rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel
"I can taste different things in food that people wouldnt even know are there. So this is no different than when i smoke some ganja."

So first you said that there is no difference, but above you said there is a difference? You don't taste food with your super taste buds? No need to resort to name calling, I am just pointing out my opinion just like you were. So if you flush and get a nice smooth smoke with white ash, and I accomplish the same thing without flushing how can you say what I am doing is wrong? If there are indeed labratory tests proving this then I would love to see them, please provide a link. I am more inclined to do what works best for me through personal experience of over 15 years of growing versus someone who just started growing a year ago. I am not afraid to try new things, and I was what you could say "set in my ways", i put my flushed bud up against my unflushed bud and guess what? I can't tell the difference, neither can anyone else, smooth smoke, white ash. I am an asthmatic, if there was shit in my buds I would know... You wanna flush then I am fine with that. I guarantee you I could replicate the effects that everyone associates with not flushing by doing a quick dry with an improper cure, in fact I have had some god awful buds back in the day, darkest ash you have ever seen, tasted horrible, sparkled like a damn sparkler, with a 3 week flush but improper dry and curing phase.
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
rocpilefsj said:
"I can taste different things in food that people wouldnt even know are there. So this is no different than when i smoke some ganja."

So first you said that there is no difference, but above you said there is a difference? You don't taste food with your super taste buds? No need to resort to name calling, I am just pointing out my opinion just like you were. So if you flush and get a nice smooth smoke with white ash, and I accomplish the same thing without flushing how can you say what I am doing is wrong? If there are indeed labratory tests proving this then I would love to see them, please provide a link. I am more inclined to do what works best for me through personal experience of over 15 years of growing versus someone who just started growing a year ago. I am not afraid to try new things, and I was what you could say "set in my ways", i put my flushed bud up against my unflushed bud and guess what? I can't tell the difference, neither can anyone else, smooth smoke, white ash. I am an asthmatic, if there was shit in my buds I would know... You wanna flush then I am fine with that. I guarantee you I could replicate the effects that everyone associates with not flushing by doing a quick dry with an improper cure, in fact I have had some god awful buds back in the day, darkest ash you have ever seen, tasted horrible, sparkled like a damn sparkler, with a 3 week flush but improper dry and curing phase.
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Thats nuts the only time I ever had sparklers in my buds is when I didnt flush using GH nutes.
 
montanachadly

montanachadly

Active Member
my bud doesnt have a flush i guess i can clarify myself i am not talking about vegtables that are grown with fertilizers or anything like that im talking about like cooked foods you know go to a resturant and you get a dish or a glass of wine both are red and taste the same to most but there is little subtlties of different flavors thats kinda what im saying i guess maybe you have it down to a science doing it for 15 years your way and no one can tell a difference i can remember what magazine i read it in wether it was cannabis now or one of the other 5 i know there not all fact but i do remember that the lab was from a college in New Hampshire which i thought was weired cause they dont even have any med marijuana. I just dont believe every grow book i have read and 95% of the people say flush but there are some like yourself that say its not a big deal i dont fast dry my bud I have a set controlled room to dry anywere from 12 to 16 days then it goes into jars and its not crumbly. My own buds i can taste a difference but to each there own as you say. I am just personally done using nutrients cause after reading some of the organic threads the same results can be achieved using mother earth not a mixed up batch of mass produced nutrients like Advanced Nuts thats making a killing off growers. Yes i know your harvest is going to be bigger and probably weigh a bit more but i still stand by my statement that for me and i hope anyone thats tasted some good TLO grown bud that one is completly different and tastes much more natural. I bet if you grew two plants clones side by side one organic the other with nutes you might be able to tell the difference in taste. Thats all im saying.
 
rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel
montanachadly said:
my bud doesnt have a flush i guess i can clarify myself i am not talking about vegtables that are grown with fertilizers or anything like that im talking about like cooked foods you know go to a resturant and you get a dish or a glass of wine both are red and taste the same to most but there is little subtlties of different flavors thats kinda what im saying i guess maybe you have it down to a science doing it for 15 years your way and no one can tell a difference i can remember what magazine i read it in wether it was cannabis now or one of the other 5 i know there not all fact but i do remember that the lab was from a college in New Hampshire which i thought was weired cause they dont even have any med marijuana. I just dont believe every grow book i have read and 95% of the people say flush but there are some like yourself that say its not a big deal i dont fast dry my bud I have a set controlled room to dry anywere from 12 to 16 days then it goes into jars and its not crumbly. My own buds i can taste a difference but to each there own as you say. I am just personally done using nutrients cause after reading some of the organic threads the same results can be achieved using mother earth not a mixed up batch of mass produced nutrients like Advanced Nuts thats making a killing off growers. Yes i know your harvest is going to be bigger and probably weigh a bit more but i still stand by my statement that for me and i hope anyone thats tasted some good TLO grown bud that one is completly different and tastes much more natural. I bet if you grew two plants clones side by side one organic the other with nutes you might be able to tell the difference in taste. Thats all im saying.
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Well said! You should do what works for you and how you achieve the best results personally. Just trying to open up some different trains of thought is all. Stay high!
 
montanachadly

montanachadly

Active Member
So then Rockpile can you share your secrets with me cause i have one clone that i have left thats close to coming down and i have used the whole line up of fox farm nutes on it and its sister so i will flush one and not flush the other one. So whats your secret do you hang the plant as a whole or what do trim it then hang it. Whats your temps and humidity in your drying room etc all the details would be great.
 
rocpilefsj

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel
No secrets at all bud. I trim the plant completely, fan leaves and sugar leaves. They then get hung up in complete darkness, temps are usually 18-20 C (65-70ish F) and the humidity is around 40-50%. I use a humidifier to bump up my humidity if needed and a dehumidifier if it needs bumped down. In my environment under these conditions my buds are usually dry enough to jar by day 5-7. Never under 4.5 to 5 days though. I then begin my curing process using a hygrometer, instead of me just plagarising I will link you to SimonD's thread:

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/514841-perfect-cure-every-time.html

Sometimes the buds are still a little wet so they get dumped out and dried a little bit more, they NEVER reach the point of being over dry or the cure is worthless in my opinion. By this time my buds already burn nicely with a clean white ash, the taste isn't bad, better then a lot of the stuff I can get my hands on, but not what I am accustomed to. So on to the curing process they go. After about 3-4 weeks the flavor I desire starts to come out. Perfectly trimmed buds, smooth taste, white ash, no sparkling or crackling, no black ash. Please do try it, the key is not blasting them with nutes before chopping, giving them one or two normal waters beforehand and a long, slow dry and cure. I think if you can replicate this properly you will be pleasantly surprised, I certainly was after years and years and years of flushing for weeks before harvest. Please let me know how things work out for you!
 
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