AG slow growth/failure setup with pics...but trying

so here is my setup. there are pics to see lights, size, DiY co2 setup and plants.

after reading about adding yeast and some type of sugar with water in a bottle and hole in cap, i decided to take one step further because i also read about adding Co2 to res.

i have one bottle(large) with yeast and sugar/maple syrup with tite hole in cap. ran 3/8? tubing maybe could be 1/4 but ran that from bottle thru one of the un-used AG holes into the res. the idea being that the yeast will react and bubble up thru the res thus adding some co2.

the other bottle is just for the room/area.

can see i have ventilation from intake on bottom to exhaust on top.

have ph meter. currently 5-ish
have ppm meter. currently 200-ish
have light meter. currently 4-5k lumens per sqft
not using AG nutes. not using any nutes at moment.
have access to 50% h2o2 and have res treated with ~2-3ml

first i tried paper towel method and germinated the seeds then placed them in AG. they stunted and did not grow.
then i started this batch in the AG and this is where i am at.

trying to answer as many questions with as much info as possible........

have hydro ph kit for up/down adjustment.
i just added the co2 1 day ago.
i had the AG set on tomato setting which cycles the water on/off for a specified time but read here that most have set to run 24hr so i try....

thinking i might be watering too much so i gonna turn off and see if roots will reach and force growing for a couple days.
was using the hps but was told to turn it off for now. which i did.

that about all i can think of......do not have an air stone but i tend to keep res 3/4 full so the foam and roots and suspended and the falling water will help aerate.

OMG... stop what you are doing clean everything really good and START OVER

not without a reason.
why?
the AG was cleaned prior to starting this batch. i even wore gloves during cleaning and panting.
i premix my res solution ad set ph and ppm prior to changing and i have changed the res every 7-9 days
course it only been 3 weeks.

i have seen plenty of other setups that arent sportin now cleanliness badges
so please tell me why not just "do it"

Put the unit on the tomatoe setting, no nutes for a whole week .. just spring water from your local supermarket. add an airstone and an airpump.. and let it be for a week... then add 1 tablet of the starting nutes to some water to disolve ,, then add to the tank.. I fill the tank to the brim cause my plants drink 20oz of water every 2 days ...

Look here

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/58249-aerogarden-grow-right-way.html

Ive never ever checked my waters PH

i had the setting on tomato.
if the plants are growing and healthy i would expect that much "drinkage"

also i have not used any nutes yet. read the seeds had enuff for a week or so. the ppm i have is from treating my well water. it has a stating ppm of 60-ish. on the first batch that stunted i was using store bought spring water. had same thing happen and the ppm of that water was higher.
my well ater goes up due to ph down and h2o2 i add.

the air be the only thing i havent added to the upgrade, but upon inspecting the roots and what not that has grown it looks like the ends are real slim and that they havent pushed out thru the foam.

i cut the foam in half before i started too make it easier for the roots.

my next res change is coming up but i think i am still watering too much. so first i already turned off the AG from pumping water. gonna wait couple days and see what happen. then maybe i will change the res and get air stone. prolly start over at that point too.

massbaster said:

i had the setting on tomato.
if the plants are growing and healthy i would expect that much "drinkage"

also i have not used any nutes yet. read the seeds had enuff for a week or so. the ppm i have is from treating my well water. it has a stating ppm of 60-ish. on the first batch that stunted i was using store bought spring water. had same thing happen and the ppm of that water was higher.
my well ater goes up due to ph down and h2o2 i add.

the air be the only thing i havent added to the upgrade, but upon inspecting the roots and what not that has grown it looks like the ends are real slim and that they havent pushed out thru the foam.

i cut the foam in half before i started too make it easier for the roots.

my next res change is coming up but i think i am still watering too much. so first i already turned off the AG from pumping water. gonna wait couple days and see what happen. then maybe i will change the res and get air stone. prolly start over at that point too.

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Ive never changed my water .. when you do that you are shocking the roots , You dont need to treat the store bought water, once the water in the res reaches room temp you wanna add room temp water to it , Not hot nor cold , Nowhere does it say to change the water , your only shocking the plants .. Your plants have a long long way to go ... They are yours and you can do it your way ... Ive shown you mine .. ..Im just informing you what works ... Good luck Bro Peace .

thanks for the responses. i will try my no water trick to see what happens and follow your advice on leaving the res alone so the plants can stabilize.

if that no work i try from beginning and just use untreated spring water to see what happen.
thanks

take to CO2 out of the res...roots need O2 not CO2, that is for the leaves...

This could be your problem...

Peace
-Tek

that people are putting in co2 to both res and for leaves.
i just added the co2 and the problem was there prior. i dont want to change too many things at once. want to change one or two things to see if make change or not.

thanks for the input and i will keep that in mind.

Ummm yeah co2 in your res is like smootherig your plants.No co2 in the water ever only for aqauatic aquarium plants as co2 will choke the roots and they will die.Whoever said they added co2 to thier res water is either lying or as dumb as can be lol

so i removed the co2 from the tank. maybe i was just stoned and mis-understood what i was reading. it could happen.

anyhow, thanks to all for your replys and help.
will keep posted. going on 24hours without water but foam still wet so i not too worried.
hoping this will force the roots to search out for more water. please realize these things only have one main root right now that is pretty slim. nothing like the root clusters i been seeing......

patience my son, and ye shall be rewarded......

Yea ...... HURRY UP AND WAIT.... I hate waiting ..... Im now having to wait about 8 weeks to cut them down..

yea, all that shit and no extra airstone...... you don't need all that light with the AG. Just use the AG hood at first. You do not need any additional lighting till flowering time. I am no expert but its almost like you are trying too hard. Then again you may have some week seeds or the seeds may have come in contact with something like an oven or microwave that messed them up a bit As I explained earlier I am not expert but who really is? ....yes korvette i've seen your motherplant pic b4 u took em off....Freakishly Sweet! I bet they flower into louisville slugger buds.