AK47 first indoor grow

dikncider

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My grow room is a work in progress, the veg area is 33" w X 36"d X 68" h, the flower area is 79"w X 36d X 68"h. I have 2 2ft T20 fluoros in my veg and a 400W HPS cool tube in the flower. I'm using the ebb and flow method. The flower area is on 19/24 for the plants and I have the veg area on 24/7 for some seedlings. I began by germinating the AKs in a coffee cup but only 4 sprouted this way, I then used the much better paper towel method and got four more AKs in the veg chamber on the way. For nutes I'm using foxfarm grow big, PH is 6. I also have 2 clones from a flowering female that's growing outdoors. A friend gave me some bagseed that were small seeds but I germinated 8 of them and they popped right away. I'm trying to find out what strain it is, if I do I'll create some seeds to experiment later. If u go to my profile the pics have more detailed explanations. I've had start up difficulties such as foliar fed when shouldn't have, over fed with 4 feed cycles, now I'm feeding twice a day for 20 mins. And I also had the lights too close. I've been moving the lights up a couple of inches a day until the tips are ok. Please feel free to comment or make suggestions. The plants in the tub have been there for 2 weeks, tomorrow I'll be changing the nutes and possibly getting the next tub ready.
 

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dikncider said:
My grow room is a work in progress, the veg area is 33" w X 36"d X 68" h, the flower area is 79"w X 36d X 68"h. I have 2 2ft T20 fluoros in my veg and a 400W HPS cool tube in the flower. I'm using the ebb and flow method. The flower area is on 19/24 for the plants and I have the veg area on 24/7 for some seedlings. I began by germinating the AKs in a coffee cup but only 4 sprouted this way, I then used the much better paper towel method and got four more AKs in the veg chamber on the way. For nutes I'm using foxfarm grow big, PH is 6. I also have 2 clones from a flowering female that's growing outdoors. A friend gave me some bagseed that were small seeds but I germinated 8 of them and they popped right away. I'm trying to find out what strain it is, if I do I'll create some seeds to experiment later. If u go to my profile the pics have more detailed explanations. I've had start up difficulties such as foliar fed when shouldn't have, over fed with 4 feed cycles, now I'm feeding twice a day for 20 mins. And I also had the lights too close. I've been moving the lights up a couple of inches a day until the tips are ok. Please feel free to comment or make suggestions. The plants in the tub have been there for 2 weeks, tomorrow I'll be changing the nutes and possibly getting the next tub ready.
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looks good bro. you say 19/24 for flower... you should be doing 12 on 12 off.
 
dikncider

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No bro I'm vegging right now the plants are about 25 days old, when they reach 15" I'll set them to 12/12, just using the space to veg for now.
 
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Today I changed the nutes in the rez and added a level indicator and a couple of 1/4 inch fittings, one for the air and the other for a drain line I added to the outer edge of the tub cause the level in the tub was staying at about a 1/4 in. I'm about to get the next tub ready for the 4 AKs and 8 bagseed that are in the bubbleponic set up.
1- the first pic is a second gen AK mother of the 2 clones in the tub.
2- level indicator
3- the 3 AKs growing an inch a day and filling out nicely
4- the 2 clones 3rd gen, the one on the left was cloned with out scraping the stem, the right one had the stem scraped, both developed roots in 9 days but rightie had more. These 2 clones are going to be the mother plants for a while.
 

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This morning when I looked in on the honeys the room was stanking( I have a Uvonair 3000 that I will have to put on a timer), the smell is not bad yet. Today I installed the new tub for expansion and cut the existing tub to 5 1/2 in. so I can get more light to the bottoms, I also cut 3 in. off the legs of the shelves so I could gain some headroom. I went to the depot and bought a green cfl bulb in case I want to pay a visit while they sleep. I also ordered a couple of 105 watt CFLs that will be for the 2 mother plants. The temps down here have been increasing so I'm gonna have to get some cooling in the room soon. A friend gave me a dehumidifier that wasn't working well so I cleaned the evaporator coil on it and it's working like a charm, those things don't come with a filter and they should. This unit sucks the air through the evaporator and then discharges it through the condenser and out a side vent which is ok to dehumidify but not to cool down the room. I don't know how many btus it is but if its at least 5k I'll mount the condenser in the exhaust of my cool tube.
Pics
1- The ladies I hope basking in the fluoros while I work in the room
2- the larger clone which I trimmed all the old growth from
3- the smaller clone also trimmed
4- The new tub installed and ready to go
 

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dikncider said:
This morning when I looked in on the honeys the room was stanking( I have a Uvonair 3000 that I will have to put on a timer), the smell is not bad yet. Today I installed the new tub for expansion and cut the existing tub to 5 1/2 in. so I can get more light to the bottoms, I also cut 3 in. off the legs of the shelves so I could gain some headroom. I went to the depot and bought a green cfl bulb in case I want to pay a visit while they sleep. I also ordered a couple of 105 watt CFLs that will be for the 2 mother plants. The temps down here have been increasing so I'm gonna have to get some cooling in the room soon. A friend gave me a dehumidifier that wasn't working well so I cleaned the evaporator coil on it and it's working like a charm, those things don't come with a filter and they should. This unit sucks the air through the evaporator and then discharges it through the condenser and out a side vent which is ok to dehumidify but not to cool down the room. I don't know how many btus it is but if its at least 5k I'll mount the condenser in the exhaust of my cool tube.
Pics
1- The ladies I hope basking in the fluoros while I work in the room
2- the larger clone which I trimmed all the old growth from
3- the smaller clone also trimmed
4- The new tub installed and ready to go
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looking good.
 
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Well today could have been catastrophic, got home from work and found the leaves drooping, I discovered the pump timer hadn't fed the presumed ladies this morning. I folear watered them a bit and they perked up. I drilled out the security screws of the timer and discovered that the socket where the pump plugs into had a ton of solder but those chinks failed to solder the neutral connection, I resoldered the connection tested the timer and fed the babies. I also stopped and bought a 12" oscillating fan to replace the microwave fan I had been using. I'm considering taking a clone from each plant and putting the 3 larger plants to flower but my veg area is not ready, I wish I had the room to make a third grow area but for now it's out of the question. I need to get a couple of 5 gallon bubbleponic setups for the 2 clones and acquire a bigger air pump. I'll post pics tomorrow..............
 
AGSteve

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dikncider said:
Well today could have been catastrophic, got home from work and found the leaves drooping, I discovered the pump timer hadn't fed the presumed ladies this morning. I folear watered them a bit and they perked up. I drilled out the security screws of the timer and discovered that the socket where the pump plugs into had a ton of solder but those chinks failed to solder the neutral connection, I resoldered the connection tested the timer and fed the babies. I also stopped and bought a 12" oscillating fan to replace the microwave fan I had been using. I'm considering taking a clone from each plant and putting the 3 larger plants to flower but my veg area is not ready, I wish I had the room to make a third grow area but for now it's out of the question. I need to get a couple of 5 gallon bubbleponic setups for the 2 clones and acquire a bigger air pump. I'll post pics tomorrow..............
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that's a bummer man. hope it's working properly now. can't wait to see more pics.
 
Mr. Bitti

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hey man you seem to have a real nice and advanced setup, and ak is a beautiful strain cant wait to see more!! good to see the AG here, im off to check his shit!!
 
dikncider

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Mr. Bitti said:
hey man you seem to have a real nice and advanced setup, and ak is a beautiful strain cant wait to see more!! good to see the AG here, im off to check his shit!!
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Thanks Mr B, most of my equipment is homemade. The big cost was insulating the shed where it's all happening. I love the AK, I have been growing it outdoors in the off season for quite some time. A recent close call made me come inside. I'm going to check out your family in a minute.

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that's a bummer man. hope it's working properly now. can't wait to see more pics.
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They didn't seem to suffer, close call though. I'll post some pics in a few.
 
dikncider

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AGSteve said:
that's a bummer man. hope it's working properly now. can't wait to see more pics.
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No harm done bro, they seem fine, I'll post pics soon.

Mr. Bitti said:
hey man you seem to have a real nice and advanced setup, and ak is a beautiful strain cant wait to see more!! good to see the AG here, im off to check his shit!!
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Thanks Mr B, I'm inexperienced at the hydro but I did a lot of reading before I jumped in.
 
dikncider

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This hydro grow is tricky, I hope it's worth it in the end. The first time I ran the nutes I only had to add minimal PH down to get it to 6 and after a couple of days the PH went up quickly, I went a couple of days with high PH. Yesterday I checked and it was at 6, today it had risen and was alkaline. I'm going to make it a point to check daily til I get the feel for the FF nutes! The dehumidifier is the real bummer, I wanted to make into an A/C but the condenser and evaporator are in the same coil. I decided to turn it in to a split system of sorts. I have a 9k btu A/C unit in the shed so I'm going to eliminate the evaporator on it and tap into the compressor and condenser. I'll post some pics as I move along with the conversion. Here's todays pics....

1- The dehumidifier with the outer covers removed.
2- I chopped into the refrigerant circuit, cut the excess plastic from around the drain pan and turned the fan facing up. This pic was before I screwed it together. The entire coil will be the evaporator when I'm done.
3- The ladies I hope a little while ago.
4- The 4 AKs and 8 bagseed. The roots are developing nicely.
 

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very nice bro, yea ph is very important in hydro and soil less medium. some ppl say check ph 3 times a day but that might be overkill. i think once a day should be fine
 
KushCanuck

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Hey dikncider, just caught up with your grow, lots really nice and clean. I'm a soil man personally but I definately respect hydroponic growers and love cannabis regardless :weed:. I would suggest getting your pH down to 5.7-5.8 for a hydro grow like yours, the more basic you get from 5.6 the more hydro plants tend to suffer. The plants look really healthy though mate and I love the level indicator. Keep it up, I'm subscribed

KC :leaf:
 
dikncider

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Well today I checked in on the brood before I left for work and the ph had risen, I adjusted it and when I returned from work it had risen again. I think in a couple of days it should stabilize. I took a couple of clones from the stinkiest plant and 1 from stinkie #2. I also continued with the A/C project. My 2 new 105W CFL bulbs should arrive tomorrow so I'll try to get at least one of them going.

pics;
1- the evaporator guts are nearly ready, I must have left my acetylene tank open cause it was almost empty, I was able to unsolder the necessary joints and I assembled all the new piping connections, to be continued.....
2- they continue to grow about an inch a day, the tallest is 10 1/2 in.
3- the new clones, by the way that's one of those containers that a cooked chicken comes in.
 

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damn i hope you get that ph stable, what nutes are you using? what size resevoir are you using? are you adding daily water with phd water?
 
Mr. Bitti

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daaamn bro just saw that ak mom u had outside, is that yours? you are looking at some danks bud soon from her
 
dikncider

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Mr. Bitti said:
daaamn bro just saw that ak mom u had outside, is that yours? you are looking at some danks bud soon from her
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She's the mother of the 2 clones in the tub, she's 2nd gen. I thought she had hermied on me and I threw her outside when she was about 6" and a few weeks later I checked up on her and she had blown up with 4 colas on her so I took the 2 clones that are in the tub, those are going to be the new mothers. She's only about 16" tall. healthy though.

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damn i hope you get that ph stable, what nutes are you using? what size resevoir are you using? are you adding daily water with phd water?
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I'm using foxfarm nutes, my city water is ph8 and the nutes bring down the ph to around 7 in the beginning but gradually the ph goes up, at some point it will stabilize, that's what happenned to the previous batch.
 
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