Alan's Perpetual Harvest! [T5 Veg, HPS/LED Bloom, Soil/Organic]

AlanRickman

New Member
Howdy everyone! Thanks so much for taking interest in my continually improving Colorado indoor grow. The community on RollItUp has helped me out a lot, so I hope you all enjoy this journal and let me know what you think. I moved to Colorado last year and have been working on tapping into the cannabis industry in a fully legitimate way. I set up this grow to gain more hands-on experience, possibly for a future career. Any questions, comments, concerns, criticisms, compliments? PLEASE POST THEM! I will not be offended, I am experienced at growing but by no means an expert. As soon as cannabis goes recreational this January, there is simply no way that the current infrastructure will be able to meet the demand, so I figure these skills will be valuable. I am setting up this journal with an educational backdrop rather than a "hey look how awesome I am at growing" situation. Anyway, let's get to it!

Let me start off with some tech specs to show y'all what I'm working with:

Vegetative Light: Hydrofarm Design T5 4ft x 4 tube @216w
Bloom Light: G8LED 240w Bloom Panel, Solis-Tek 600w Digital Ballast w/ Hortilux EYE Super HPS

Medium: Aurora Innovation Roots Organics Original Potting Soil

Nutrients & Supplements: Mykos Pure Mycorrhizal Inoculum, Azos Beneficial Microbes + Roots Organics dry nutrients (Elemental, Uprising Foundation, Uprising Grow, Uprising Bloom, Granular Seabird Guano) as well as Roots Organics liquid nutrients (Buddha Grow, Buddha Bloom, Trinity, Surge, Extreme Serene, Ancient Amber, HPK). We've got the whole line from Roots except for some of the dry ones including Oregonism XL (we use Mykos instead due to its fungal strain-specific nature) and the HP2. Just haven't gotten around to buying HP2 yet, we've been slowly collecting the product line over time. We're trying to follow the Master Feeding Schedule.

Strains (Bloom): Pink Lady (TGA Subcool, Black Cherry Soda x Space Queen), Chocolope (DNA Genetics, OG Chocolate Thai x Cannalope Haze), Mendocino County Diesel (Cloned Diesel cut from LaContes dispensary in Denver)

Strains (Veg): Blueberry (DJ Short), Cinderella 99, Headband, San Fernando Valley OG Kush. All current strains in veg obtained from Karmaceuticals Dispensary in Denver

Other Gear: EarthWorth 48"x48"x72" Mylar Hydro Tent, Oracle Garden Supply Air Strike 6 inline fan (440CFM) w/ CAP controller

There's the tech summary, pics coming soon!
 

AlanRickman

New Member
Howdy y'all! Apologize for the teaser, that entire introduction and no pics! My partner and I just had to pull some evasive maneuvering which required the complete disassembly and reassembly of the entire operation. Now that we're back up and running, I can get down to business. To toss out another preface, everything I’m doing in this operation has a primary purpose of research, education, and skill practice. Personal supply is a bonus; because I never really run low on herbs anyway, I want to take all the time, patience, and consideration necessary for a both educational and rewarding growing experience. For part of each journal entry, I’ll be doing a plant-by-plant breakdown. Plants in the vegetative will have (Vx) and the ones in the bloom tent will have (Bx) where ‘x’ is the current week they are in.

Here's a few pics of the equipment: basically a shelved veg/storage station that feeds a 4x4 bloom tent.

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Guess I’ll go from newest to oldest, here’s a look at what’s happening in veg!

Vegetative

SFV OG Kush (V4): I pounced on this strain when I saw it in clone form at Karmaceuticals, a Denver dispensary. There is nothing like OG Kush and the San Fernando Valley cut is supposed to be one of the most highly sought after.

Of the four new starts, growth on the SFV has been the least. As pictured, it had a few sickly-looking leaves, I have no idea why. It’s not taking kindly to something I’ve given it, trick is finding out what.

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Headband (V4): This strain used to flood my old neighborhood in the Chicagoland area for years, and has long been one of my all-time favorites. I see it at dispensaries all the time, but ironically can’t find one that even comes close to matching the quality of the black-market Chicagoland Headband! With a smell profile of OG Kush with a slight twist, I think it is a stellar hybrid. This is the “Karma Headband”, as in it is a dispensary-specific (Karmaceuticals) cut. Therefore, I’m not sure if its (OG Kush x Sour Diesel) or (OG Kush x Master Kush x Sour Diesel), both of which I’ve seen listed as Headband’s lineage.

Similar to the SFV OG, this clone has been a lot slower than the Blueberry and Cinderella 99. It also had some unhealthy leaves spotted with necrosis. Both the SFV OG and Headband have been taking up water at approximately half the rate of the other two…

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Blueberry (V4): Classic DJ short strain; I had to run it. Also, Last time I bought clones (Chocolope and Mendocino County Diesel) I picked up a Blueberry, and while trying to plan some LST, I snapped the whole damn thing clean in half. I needed a Blueberry success to redeem myself, and this is it.

I knew this beauty was going to be a champion. It took the transplant exceptionally well, and even though it was given the same exact start as both the SFV and Headband, it has shown no signs of any deficiency, burning, or slowed growth rate. This vigorous clone already had two strong shoots and, considering the growth rate, I decided to add on a screen. I’m trying to keep the new starts’ canopies even to maximize space and light penetration efficiency, but also because I can’t have them get too big or tall since they still have another month before the tent is open, and they are around a month old already.

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Cinderella 99 (V4): My favorite breeder today is Subcool. TGA has never failed me, (Querkle, Jack the Ripper, Agent Orange, Pink Lady, Vortex, Chernobyl…) and the degree to which they understand breeding and phenotype selection is simply masterful. One of the parents I notice used in a lot of the TGA line is Space Queen (Romulan x Cinderella 99). This strain has always interested me. As I’ve had experience with Romulan as a finished product, I thought I’d investigate Cinderella 99. I wanted to grow out some strains for these first few rounds which have more established lineages, and as the C99 is a key ingredient in so many things, I had to select it as my last clone for this round.

This particular Cindy clone is…rigorous. As soon as I saw the size of some of the leaves coming off such a young indoor plant, I wondered whether it might be one of those strains that’s a great outdoor selection but not necessarily suited for indoor…I mean the thing has a stem (more like a trunk) twice the diameter of the Headband. It’s also got a unique color, more of a lime-green. I can’t wait to see where it goes; I’ve been using LST to tame it like the others, but its rigidity makes it much more difficult to manage.

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Bloom

I know most plants don’t veg too much longer than a month when you’re trying to get the quickest harvest rotation for overall yield, however the flow of plants is still being adjusted as our setup continues to evolve and improve. Here’s a look at what’s in the bloom tent; it’s going to be awhile before we can move in the four mentioned above.

Mendocino County Diesel (B4): This is the youngest of the bunch, and is also an irregular strain. I’d never heard of it, but decided to give something new a try. I sure love classic NYC Diesel; I figured if the west coast can do it as well as the east coast, it’d be a knockout.

This wildcard has been the most difficult plant I’ve worked with thus far. Purchased at the same time as the Chocolope, as a clone from a Denver dispensary (LaContes), it is a full two weeks behind them. After being transplanted, it did not grow. It seemed to just be stagnant for a full week until slowly picking up speed, and even after transplantation remained weak and slow. After a lot of research, and the constructive advice of a few RollItUp members, I concluded that what appeared to be a phosphorus deficiency indeed was, however it was due to the fact of a low soil pH causing a lockout of nutrient uptake, rather than depleted phosphorus reserves. After a heavy flush with distilled water, it crept back to life! It is now very strong and all new growth shows no signs of necrosis. I am somewhat worried because it was in the spot where the Chocolope got seeded up pretty bad for a few days (prior to fixing the light leak). I hope it does not seed up!

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Chocolope (B7): Chocolope is another strain I’ve always heard about but never tried. As many great hybrids as there are out there, strains that lean extremely sativa or indica are interesting to grow because you get the real feel for the differences between growing a wild sativa vine (at least it seems like a vine sometimes!) versus a stout indica bush. Weighing in at 95% sativa, with reportedly high yields, I chose Chocolope as the sativa guinea pig for this growing experiment.

If I’d just gotten the Mendocino County Diesel, I’d have had a hard time gauging whether it was the strain itself that had issues, or the dispensary from which it came. Thanks to the Chocolope, it is undoubtedly the former. The only problem I had with the Chocolope after transplanting it as a clone was containing it! I ended up going for a screen on it as well, and it just exploded. Today marks both the Chocolope and Pink Lady’s start of bloom 7. The past couple weeks have been frustrating as I could not figure out why seeds were turning up all over the Chocolope, but not really over the Pink Lady. I believe I figured it out (see “Problems/Solutions” section). I have a feeling we’ll end up running it for about 10 weeks; hopefully it’ll pack on a significantly more mass, because it is really slacking with all that damned seed production…I suppose if I ever want to run it again, I won’t be short on a seed supply.

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Pink Lady (B7): The genetics (Space Queen x Black Cherry Soda) of this strain from the one and only TGA Subcool lean toward indica. Pink Lady is the name of a specific phenotype of the classic TGA strain “Plushberry”.

This is the only plant we have currently that was not grown from a cutting, it was found as a dispensary bagseed. It germinated quickly and turned out to be quite a hearty plant. At one point, it was dropped completely which snapped the top two shoots’ main branches nearly all the way off; I actually thought I killed the thing. Wrong. Those two branches grew back stronger and the whole plant looks vigorous. Again, just in the past week or so, some seeds have started showing up which I find equally disappointing and motivating (to fix). It sure has been a pleasure watching this from germination. Starting off with rooted clones is a nice shortcut, but you don’t get the seedling experience.

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Problems/Solutions

Fighting that seeding is depressing but also forces you to problem solve. My great love of plants and soil comes out of the sort of infinite realm of possibility in terms of how plants react with their environment; there are so many factors that can contribute positively or negatively to the health of the plants, trying to solve a problem or just improve your current environment is like a grand organic puzzle game with an undefined high score.

The predecessor of the three currently in bloom was a hybrid created by a friend and I: a cross between TGA Subcool Querkle male, and a vigorous Trainwreck bagseed found in the Chicagoland area (This cross was harvested over the weekend! See below). The Querkle x Trainwreck, Q-T or “Qutie” as I’ve named her grew some male parts about 4 weeks in which were promptly and carefully (full shear cleaning, no touching of unaffected areas) removed them. I never saw any new ones.

This is to say that I’ve been worried about pollen in the tent, however a recent observation has lead me to believe the seeding has been a light leak issue…This is just a problem you could never see coming; light leak is a common issue so we tested the tent when it was new. I zipped myself inside, there was absolutely no light even when lights were bright just outside of it.

It took the problem some time to slowly manifest, one of the reasons I didn’t think of it right away; we don’t have a light-proof intake, so when the inline fan is running during the dark period to mitigate moisture buildup, it is creating excessive negative pressure inside the tent. The walls, floor, and ceiling all get sucked in, and it creates stress over time on the seams of the tent. Eventually they got stretched enough to let in a bit of light through thread holes, right in the corner where the Chocolope had been sitting—and that is the one with the most seeds by far.

I’ve duct/electrical taped all the spots I could find both inside and out in hopes that the increased level of darkness will halt seed production in the future.

Harvest/Cure

This is the area in which I have the least amount of experience; what I can say for sure is that I am taking the stance that it’s just as critical to harvest properly as it is to grow properly. I can tell this often goes by the wayside, as here in Colorado so many dispensaries have incredible genetics, however their final products come up well short of their inherent potential. Seeing as we are not dealing with anywhere near commercial amounts here, with patient demand, and/or harvest deadlines and quotas, there is no reason every nugget cured out of this tent should be anything less than grade AA.

As this is now a continual setup, I’m hoping to have something in the drying/curing phase just about all the time; the first lady to break the ice was the Qutie, we chopped her down on 11/7 and noted a picked weight of 131.4 grams. I had my expectations low for this plant, around an ounce. It spent the majority of its life without the myriad of benefits which this much more complete setup has now. She went from a window Dixie cup to a window smart pot, and did more than half of her bloom cycle solely under the LED panel (which produced impressive results considering a very limited power draw relative to HID, as well as the fact it did not even veg very hard before it went into the tent).

Looks like we are going to surpass that ounce, and from what I can tell at this juncture, I could not have expected much more out of this fighting female. It looks potent, and the fresh bud smell was divine like heavy citrus (of course now it just smells like chlorophyll for the time being). The close, high-quality trimmings have been sitting in a baggie part open and the bag smells literally of grapefruit. It’s not sort of like grapefruit…it’s straight grapefruit. Amazing!

I’ve ordered a Caliber III Hygrometer that’s supposed to arrive tomorrow; I’m going to try out X’s method as posted here on RollItUp. I like the idea of not guessing, especially when this is such a limited harvest of a never-been-grown (far as I know!) strain. I will keep y’all posted on how my first Colorado crop turns out when it’s finally complete!

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Seedbank

Figured after going this in-depth, I’d add a little seed inventory log! Back in the day, I bought seeds from Attitude Seedbank. I still would, I love Attitude. However, the widespread clone and seed availability in my new(ish) CO habitat has kept me stocked up just fine. So far, all of these seeds were obtained from standard dispensary flowers, and should be feminized. Germination rates would be questionable due to varying degrees of seed quality, since these were obviously not grown with the intention of seed harvest.

G6 (Aspen OG x ECSD) – Medicine Man, Denver - 6
Girl Scout Cookies (OG Kush x Cherry Pie (Durban Poison x GDP) – Medicine Man, Denver - 1
Grand Doggy Purps (GDP x Chemdawg) – Medicine Man, Denver - 5
Church (Swiss Sativa x Northern Lights x Skunk x Super Skunk) – Terrapin Care Station, Boulder - 1

Unknown - 6
 

AlanRickman

New Member
I tried to edit the above post slightly, but kept getting an error. Under Harvesting/Curing, I meant to refer to SimonD's method of curing as posted here. PS, here's something I was excited about with this next round, but forgot to mention above.

New Experiment

I’ve been using Xtreme Gardening’s Mykos mycorrhizal inoculum for transplants since the last round of clones. So far the only thing I haven’t used it on was the Qutie; other than that I have no relative comparison to how it goes without it. What I do know is that if that product does half of what they say, it’s a fantastic benefit. If you’re not familiar, basically Mykos contains spores of a certain type of fungi (mycorrhizae) which promote plant growth by forming a symbiotic relationship with the roots of the plant (the plant gives the fungi sugars to feed on, while the fungi expand the water and nutrient absorption capabilities of the roots). To kick it up a notch with this round, we invested in the complementary Azos beneficial microbes. Instead of a fungi, it’s a bacterium this time (Azospirillum brasilense) allegedly capable of converting atmospheric nitrogen into a form exponentially more useable by the plant.

To apply these natural wonders, we waited for a transplant. Essentially, we used a wet medium with a hole the exact size of the root ball (formed the hole with an empty container equal in size and shape to the container holding the plant to be transplanted), then we misted the root ball and hole with distilled water. We coated the inside of the hole generously with the Mykos spores, and then dusted the root ball of the transplant generously with the Azos powder. There was heavy root circling in the plastic containers they came out of and all that root surface area on the outside of the root ball came in direct contact with both Mykos and Azos when planted.

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PSS - We also got some Roots Organics HP2. Now, we have the entire liquid nutrient line, and almost all of the dry as well! More feeding/watering info will be on the next update. Thanks so much for tuning in y'all!
 

AlanRickman

New Member
Welcome back friends. Thanks again for tuning in! If you made it all the way through the extensive and detailed startup posts, I really appreciate it. I don’t really leave much out when I write. From now on, the entries will likely be a lot shorter now that y’all have got a solid introduction to my grow, I can just add things that are new.

I’ve spent the last week really brushing up on my reading. Rather than sifting through scores of misinformation online (though a lot of it is fantastic), I’ve been diligently reading a book that was suggested to me by a guy at my local hydro shop. I was looking to do a soil grow and avoid synthetics; this book was the first thing he told me about. They don’t even sell the book at the shop (it wasn’t just a sales pitch) and the guy could not have been more of an advocate of it.

It’s called True Living Organics, by the Rev, and was recently published (2012). It’s a guide to soil-organic cannabis cultivation, which focuses more on soil than plants. Basically this guy, “the Rev” (cultivation editor at SKUNK magazine), has been breeding and growing for decades, and after 10 years of synthetic experience switched to organics and developed his own growing style “True Living Organics” (TLO), advocating it infinitely over any type of synthetic grow. Basically, his approach focuses primarily on the health of soil microlife because it’s that microlife that convert nutrients into useable form for plants, so it stands to reason focusing on those microbes can result in some fantastic growth. Here are just some random takeaways from True Living Organics I found particularly useful:

· Synthetic growing techniques do not mimic nature, and therefore do not provide optimal growing conditions for the plants to reach their maximum potential. (I’ve been on the fence about a hydro setup, this kept me in soil.)
· Bag seeds will cause hermaphrodites: “[bag seeds] are more often than not pollinated by hermaphrodite female plants, and the seeds will also grow hermaphrodite plants that end up making seeds and ruin your sensimilla.” I am 95% sure this is the case with the Pink Lady.
· With the proper soil mix, liquid nutrients are not necessary to provide the plant with everything it needs. Even a lot of “organic” liquid nutrients are treated in a way that causes excessive acidity which can easily kill off the microlife that you were hoping to have break those nutrients down. I’m sure I’ve murdered so many microbes with my lack of knowledge about nutrient feeding; I wonder, with such rich soil (including the Mykos and Azos mentioned in a recent post), if not adding anything but distilled water would have yielded better results.

I’m not going to summarize the whole thing, but as I extract those little info-gems, I will continue to share them as they relate to my grow. I recommend a visit to the beautifully designed TLO website which is now a storefront based on this approach to cultivation. I'm believe my partner and I will be investing in the TLO starter pack for our next round in the tent after the Headband/Blueberry/C99/SFV and do a comparison between the Roots Organic Master Feeding Schedule and TLO parameters.
 

dr green dre

Well-Known Member
Nice write up there AR..

I was in the lst thread so i thought i'd have a look at the grow.. A few things i noticed where the range of products you have ,which ones are you adding in veg and bloom ? it does look like to many products imo .. I've only heard about the extreme gardening food from a guy on here says its good shit for brewing in teas too.
Whats the E.C levels and ph of the feed you use? Looks like the food was to high on them plants with the damaged leaves,plus looks like a lock out which could be cause your ph is out of range.. Just from my eye which is no expert..
The best nute info i've found on here came from homebrewer .. worth looking up he's grow offs if you can ..less is more ..
I like your variety of strains you got going on too nice ..subbed up ..
Good growing..
:peace:dre

where you find a tga Cinderella 99 ? never knew they released that strain.. :leaf:
 

AlanRickman

New Member
Nice write up there AR..

I was in the lst thread so i thought i'd have a look at the grow.. A few things i noticed where the range of products you have ,which ones are you adding in veg and bloom ? it does look like to many products imo .. I've only heard about the extreme gardening food from a guy on here says its good shit for brewing in teas too.
Whats the E.C levels and ph of the feed you use? Looks like the food was to high on them plants with the damaged leaves,plus looks like a lock out which could be cause your ph is out of range.. Just from my eye which is no expert..
The best nute info i've found on here came from homebrewer .. worth looking up he's grow offs if you can ..less is more ..
I like your variety of strains you got going on too nice ..subbed up ..
Good growing..
:peace:dre

where you find a tga Cinderella 99 ? never knew they released that strain.. :leaf:
Hey Dr. Green Dre, yes I've tried a lot of different methods from synthetic A/B style nutes to, as you can see, a variety of organics. I follow a strict schedule of feeding in which the measurement of each nutrient is based on the combined usage of everything I have, I don't just go by the individual bottles as it were. I don't have an EC meter. The pH of my solution is acidic, but not extreme, around 5.5. I also use only distilled water, as well as only feed every other watering. This means the plants only receive a prescribed dosage every 12 days.

Most of the damage this last round was drought-induced as I had some sub-par plant sitting while I was home for Thanksgiving. Some was nutrient burn, but I had overlooked some suggestions such as premixing the Elemental vigorously until fully dissolved before mixing liquid nutes, as well as premixing the full solution 24 hours before feeding. Now that I've been using Roots for awhile, I wrote up a little review in my next post which I'm about to do.

I don't recall a TGA cindy, maybe a typo i'll have to look back. The last TGA was the "Pink Lady" which is a select Plushberry phenotype with the genetics (Black Cherry Soda x Space Queen). The Cindy I have currently in bloom is from a Denver dispensary called Karmaceuticals.
 

AlanRickman

New Member
Howdy y’all! Time to check in again, a lot has happened. Been busy with school, now finals are over! Here’s an update:

Veg is now empty. Pink Lady, Chocolope, and Mendocino County Diesel have been harvested! Pink Lady and Chocolope have dried and are curing; they yielded 59.5g and 60g respectively. Mendocino County Diesel is still drying.

Chocolope:

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Bloom (B)

Headband (B3): Vigorous growth. I made a single “L” shaped support to suspend its main stalk. It’s in a bonsai growth pattern, and the main stem’s radical horizontal angle could not support the sheer mass of the side shoots. After the little support structure, it exploded even further. There are some mysterious white specks. They do not scrape off. They are not clustered and have not spread to neighboring plants (under investigation…any ideas?). Leaf tips have slight curl, but distortion is not progressing. There are little to no signs of chlorosis even on fan leaves lower down.

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Cinderella 99 (B3): This thing makes me thing about jungles when I look at it. Its vibrant lime fan leaves are massive. I submitted it to it’s own custom support (been a habit lately), a screen structure. This really evened the canopy, and I lollipopped the bottom ruthlessly. The pronounced density of the canopy allows minimal light exposure to lower nodes. It has 9 main tops now. There are virtually no signs of nutrient imbalance.

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SFV OG Kush (B3): Even though the flowers are just emerging, this spectacle is still my most highly anticipated harvest. The leaves on this lady just looked supercharged after the last feed. Healthy turgidity, visibly shiny cutin layer. The blades look perfect. Before placing into bloom, I gave this a “late screening” as well. It started as a lot of LST ties then I said no…this needs a full screen. Such healthy stalks easily stayed in tact being woven through—didn’t lose a single fan leaf. This really evened out the canopy, and again I lollipopped the bottom. In the past, the release of jasmonic acid as a response to stress (induced from pruning) has prevented me from doing much manicuring, if any. However, after trimming these last harvests myself, the full scope of the post-production has convinced me it’s worth the pruning to avoid all of that underdeveloped growth that just causes a mess.

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Blueberry (B3): This Blueberry…oh boy. I had this screened long before bloom, this promising clone always outgrew the other three for whatever reason. I had to make a multi-tiered customized screen/L-support cage (…see pics) to match the diameter and canopy spread of the other three, bending some shoots a full 90 degrees. It’s almost like a cage of vines growing berries. This is a dispensary-bought clone (like the other three) and the first indication that what they gave me was legitimate has manifested: a deep blue hue in the buds. The flowers on this plant seem to want to be ahead of all the others, just like the vegetative stage. It’s been nice to have four separate strains all on the same exact week of flowering. Blueberry has shown some signs of chlorosis on the lower fan leaves. I’m not sure if this was a deficiency based on extraordinary vegetative growth coupled its advanced nutrient demand in its reproductive growth stage, or a negative response to a previous feeding. I’m guessing the first one, circumstantially, as the other three have shown no signs of burn with the same feed. Relative to the SFV especially, I understand it’s not the most resistant easy-to-grow strain.

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Nutrients & Watering – Roots Organics Performance

After this 2[SUP]nd[/SUP]~3[SUP]rd[/SUP] generation of plants using the Roots Organics full line, (approximate because we didn’t start off with every nutrient) we’ve ironed out a few things that are key, and would be super easy to overlook. As far as organic nutrients, keep it organic. We’ve had excellent luck sustaining microlife, evident by the fantastic growth. Even something like GH pH up is synthetic, and though tempting to add to an acidic organic nutrient solution, it can harm organic life essential to the prosperity of plants in a soil grow. I’ve come to understand the soil was essentially inert media in some of my previous grows when I knew almost nothing; synthetic nutrients’ chelated acids allow the nutrients available direct to roots there by no longer necessitating breakdown by microlife, and by extension no longer necessitating soil as anything other than a root anchor. However, we are trying to transition to a TLO style grow, and chelated acids are strictly prohibited when attempting to mimic nature.

Roots Master schedule calls for Elemental, which is essentially a dry cal/mag, can be mixed into liquid solutions (painstakingly) before mixing in the regular nutrient line, allowing for a more balanced pH. We combine this practice with a 24-hour premix as advised, tucked away in the instructions’ further reading, “it is suggested to allow 24 hours for the solution to rise to a more appropriate pH”. I believe taking this extra care goes a long way to soil microlife preservation, especially in later stages of growth.

We’ve gone so far as to include their exact suggested foliar feed as well, an alternating once-a-week complement of either Extreme Serene or Ancient Amber. I’ve noticed no negative effect. As far as instantaneous result, that Extreme Serene is potent stuff. I always wondered is this really worth more than double almost all of the other individual nutrients in their line? I can see the result so evidently, even when the plants are submitted to all manner of other nutrient supply. It’s worth $33 for me.

So far, I’ve been very pleased with Roots Organics. It’s not easy to find a great nutrient balance for any garden, but if you can recognize what your plants tell you, and react to it accordingly, these nutrients can take you far. I don’t do hydro because I just want great cannabis. I mean really FANTASTIC cannabis. I am not selling it to anyone, this is not-for-profit after all, haha…

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Next Vegetative Generation

Long story short (really): Ordered 10 feminized Cannabiogen Sugar Loaf seeds a weeks ago, got it with customs seizure notice, seedbank (Attitude) reshipped, and I’m awaiting a hopefully not emptied package.

It’s getting to crunch time because these ones in bloom are nearly done with week 3, and I’ve got nothing green above soil prepping for the next round. My neighbor offered me a whole mess of clones because he’s moving, and since these Sugar Loaf have not arrived yet those are looking like the best option. The problem is even though it’s awesome they’re fully rooted, they’re damn big--nearly ready to flower themselves. If we hang onto them for the minimal 5 weeks it’d take before we could start moving them into bloom, they’ll be monsters!

More on the next generation in my next post which won’t take so long. Until next time, thanks for tuning in, and as always I appreciate anyone even just skimming these pictures. Let me know what y’all think!
 

AlanRickman

New Member
Further investigation reveals a hefty spider mite infestation based in the Headband, I quarantined it but fear it may be too late. I've clipped overlapping fan leaves/fan leaves with any slight sign of infestation and found a few mites in the Cindy, none on the Blueberry or SFV though (that I've seen yet). I'm thinking of trying the habanero pepper method outlined in another thread here by CaliBuzz.
 

AlanRickman

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Hey guys. I got all bummed after none of those pictures worked out and haven't been on in awhile, especially with school starting back up etc. Anyways I haven't given up! I went to great lengths to research spider mite solutions and in two treatments could not find any signs of new life from bloom 4 to harvest, and I even purchased a sweet USB microscope from "Plugable" that works with my mac. I'll post some screenshots from it soon. The key was pure neem oil, evenly dispersed with coco-wet. I found most "neem" products are actually hydrophobic extract of neem oil and from what i've read, that extraction process actually removes most of the naturally beneficial properties from the oil (so the extracts can be sold separately as pesticides). so with the pure organic stuff, mixed in with a hint of wetting agent, the mites were done for. it even produced an average yield.

rest of the ladies finished in prime form, and the SFV OG (as predicted) has a smell that could make a grown man cry.

this is a perpetual grow! it took some time but i've finally come into possession of some feminized Sugarloaf from spanish breeder Cannabiogen. this will be the first breeder pack seed in this operation, and it will be used in conjunction with the new soil experiment inspired by "True Living Organics" by skunk magazine's The Rev​. we've ordered the TLO Starter Pack from www.truelivingorganic.com and the first Sugarloaf seedling has broken ground out of the mellow mix.

here's the plan: a flat of small mellow mix containers with seedlings will be transplanted into progressively larger pots with strategically layered soil. only clean water sources, soluble mycorrhizal innoculum and compost teas will be used to feed by liquid, and fertilizer spikes will be used to further boost nutrient availability (without disturbing the global soil pH). 3 gallon will be the final container size used for flowering. the freebies that came with the breeder packs look nice, going to run World of Seeds "Skunk 47" as well as DNA Genetics "Sharksbreath". All of the others will be sugarloafs.

anyhow sneak preview is over and I will be in touch my friends :)
 

AlanRickman

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Howdy RIU community!

Hopefully some of you will catch this update. After settling into this semester academic wise, I've got some free time to show you guys what I've got in the works for this round; it's going to be a combination of a few things I've wanted to do/try for a long time: strategic organic soil layering, compost tea and a total focus on optimal microbial environments. Liquid nutrients will be avoided at all costs. The test subjects? A small genetically eclectic seedling lineup all from Attitude Seedbank; feminized breeder seeds of:

(5) Sugarloaf byCannabiogen (♀Pakistan Indica x ♂(Manali x Columbian Bx )) = (♀Pakistan x ♂Capricho )
(2) LA Affie by Cali Connection (Afghan Bombay Kush)
(1) Skunk 47 by World of Seeds - Legend Collection (♀AK-47 x ♂Skunk)
(1) Sharksbreath by DNA Genetics (Great White Shark x Jamaican Lambsbread)

I have been wanting to grow out a CBG strain for some time, and Sugarloaf was my #1 choice. It seems like such a unique hybrid. Anyhow, using "True Living Organics" by the Rev as a guide, here's what it looks like so far:

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The roots in the 4th pic showed up just three days after seedling transplant. I coated the root ball with micro-innoculants, Azospirillum brasilense & Glomus intraradices, and the resulting prolificacy of root growth blew my mind. I've used these products before, but fear my lack of understanding of herbaceous root symbioses limited their effectiveness (not the fault of the product). I did follow the instructions, but it's never that simple when it comes to maintaining homeostasis in organic microenvironment. Academic study in my major, agronomy, has really been the greatest complement to my favorite hobby.

I started this flat under a Bloom-spectrum 240W 3-watt-diode LED panel by G8 LED. I have no experience with their vegetative version of this panel, however I've never seen such fragile seedlings (germinated naturally in the soil itself) take so readily to a relatively powerful light source. Brand new seedlings with nothing more than a few cotyledons seemed so happy and forest-green under this light.

As it stands now, I've added an additional 108(2x54)W with my 4ft T5 fixture by removing two of the bulbs, and then a few days later, added 52(2x26)W in strategically-placed CFLs on top of that. This brings the current approximate power draw to 350W. Another few days of adjustment, and I'll reinstall the remaining T5s to take it up to 450W. Normal people might say that's more than enough. But I'm planning on switching to an Ushio 600w metal halide opti-blue when the ladies are looking strong enough.

Other interesting notes would be my first-ever use of mulch. I am so used to "soup-fed" (using 'organic' liquid nutrient recipes dissolved into what becomes a highly acidic, and microlife-abrasive solution) homogenous soil mixes that I never considered just how useful it can be. I was sure to avoid cedar and walnut, as well as anything with any sort of dye. Being a proud resident of the great State of Colorado, I wasn't surprised that pine was the best apparent option. I just put it on top of my 2-layer mix today (guess that makes it a 3-layer!) and it just smells, feels, and looks great. It should block out most of the light that was seeping into the top of the top soil layer; this should allow the roots to grow upward and make more efficient use of the container volume, while also stifling moisture evaporation in order to allow for a more consistent moisture content within the soil (top layer does not dry out).

Finally, today I started my first attempt at actively aerated compost tea (AACT). It's currently bubbling @3 hours. I'll use it tomorrow evening to water/"feed" through the mulch layer. I say "feed" because my goal is NOT to introduce nutrients via liquid application; my goal is to introduce healthy levels of new microlife, which will work hard to free up and convert already present nutrients into plant-useable forms. I hope the combination of these two container amenities will make these ladies happy as they could possibly be! The tea I'm using is from the TLO Starter Pack I have been so excited about. This first brew is the TLO New Roots Tea. I did not have the pure unsulphured molasses to add, but I have the entire Roots Organics liquid fertilizer line left over from my last few harvests. I remembered the "Trinity" is a molasses-based bio-catalyst, so I looked up the exact ingredients via the Oregon Department of Agriculture's registry of agricultural products. Since there was zero sulfur content, I opted to try it as a substitute for the plain unsulphured molasses in the mix. I don't know how well that will work, but I sure can tell this tea smells incredible in an earthy/fertile sense.

I'll post up some pics of the progress next time when I let y'all know how it goes with the tea. Catch me next time on the following installment of Alan's Perpetual Harvest!
 

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AlanRickman

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I'm done with RIU. The way it's setup is so inefficient that getting useful info/feedback is like mining rare gemstones. Cheers everyone who looked at this in the 90 sec it was in the new post feed before it got washed out.
 

OneEyedCat

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I read the whole thing and was impressed AR.
How did you get seeds from the dispensaries? I had the wife ask last week when she was in Denver but they were not forthcoming on selling or giving seeds. Do you know someone?
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to answer on the thread. I will subscribe to yuour journal but only if you are going to keep up the news.
Good luck!
 
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