Aliens....Do You Believe?

greg nr

greg nr

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ttystikk said:
I think we can all agree on this.


The idea that the Galaxy is too big for us to ever meet other intelligent life is very sad.
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Hey now, don't go around insulting intelligent life by associating them with us. ;)

Intelligence isn't binary, and it probably isn't even linear. More likely it's logarithmic and for all we know we are all the way to the lower left of the curve. I really hope we aren't the apex of the living. That would be sad.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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greg nr said:
Hey now, don't go around insulting intelligent life by associating them with us. ;)

Intelligence isn't binary, and it probably isn't even linear. More likely it's logarithmic and for all we know we are all the way to the lower left of the curve. I really hope we aren't the apex of the living. That would be sad.
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Intelligence, like technology and knowledge, is not linear. I agree that it's logarithmic.

Had that conversation just above, in fact.

So if this is true then maybe the aliens are watching from a safe distance, knowing that we could all blow ourselves up any minute. Perhaps they're waiting until we show some signs of enlightenment. One of those signs would be taking environmental stewardship seriously. Other signs would be the end of war, famine and poverty and ensuring everyone on Earth gets as much education as possible.

That would be a beautiful world. Our base animal instincts of greed, fear and territorialism are keeping us from building it.
 
Altered State

Altered State

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ttystikk said:
But it doesn't apply to all life on our planet; check out the ecosystems around deep ocean vents. No light required.
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yes their is life down there as well , how does the notion that life can thrive in dark places interfere with your understanding that higher life flourishes under a Suns rays ?
 
Altered State

Altered State

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ttystikk said:
Well- forgive me for not taking your fantasies and wild conjecture more seriously.
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Your funny , wild conjecture ... like life on other planets is wild conjecture.

I sense you just want to argue and have no interests in life on other planets. I will bow out now from further discussion with you
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Altered State said:
Your funny , wild conjecture ... like life on other planets is wild conjecture.

I sense you just want to argue and have no interests in life on other planets. I will bow out now from further discussion with you
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The difference between your fantasies and my speculation is discipline. We can make up anything we want and that's fine- but useless. Building on the knowledge we already have is not useless; is the best set of tools we have.

Come back with someone- anything- based in fact and we can have a serious discussion.

Your out of hand dismissal of undersea life as unworthy of further concern betrays your undisciplined approach.

That would be your problem, not mine.
 
Altered State

Altered State

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ttystikk said:
The difference between your fantasies and my speculation is discipline. We can make up anything we want and that's fine- but useless. Building on the knowledge we already have is not useless; is the best set of tools we have.

Come back with someone- anything- based in fact and we can have a serious discussion.

Your out of hand dismissal of undersea life as unworthy of further concern betrays your undisciplined approach.

That would be your problem, not mine.
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tell you what you delve into vent life and all it has too offer I'll stick to intelligent life and all it has too offer
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Altered State said:
You can't see past your nose , Im not up to educating a straight up idiot. Sorry your on your own
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With what passes for logic in your world, you're the one on your own.

I'm on firm ground because everything I say rests on a foundation of solid science. That puts me in a place perhaps unfamiliar to you; 'good company'.
 
Altered State

Altered State

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Your Wrong and so fucking wrong its laughable

science is on my side all the way but you couldn't know that could you as you obviously dont study
 
Altered State

Altered State

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You need to educate yourself asking me to to do your homework and present it to you is nothing short of Lazy and is no different then looking over someones shoulder at test time.

Try looking into peoples claims before deeming yourself knowledgeable enough to discount them.

I don't spout off unless I have read up plenty on the subject despite how off hand my comments may seem I base them in science not imaginationland

Here is a article that delves deeper into sunlight if you care to educate yourself

Why did life develop on the surface of the Earth in the Cambrian?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1674987116300019

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muciek112

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I do, if you study ancients civilizations, all of them have signs of alien activity, like Ezekiel's Vision: An Alien UFO and sumierian culture and so on. Aliens was ancient gods.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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muciek112 said:
I do, if you study ancients civilizations, all of them have signs of alien activity, like Ezekiel's Vision: An Alien UFO and sumierian culture and so on. Aliens was ancient gods.
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That's hard to prove. Many have said the same things.

So, 'maybe' it happened- but maybe not.

That only goes so far.
 
Drowning-Man

Drowning-Man

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ttystikk said:
Intelligence, like technology and knowledge, is not linear. I agree that it's logarithmic.

Had that conversation just above, in fact.

So if this is true then maybe the aliens are watching from a safe distance, knowing that we could all blow ourselves up any minute. Perhaps they're waiting until we show some signs of enlightenment. One of those signs would be taking environmental stewardship seriously. Other signs would be the end of war, famine and poverty and ensuring everyone on Earth gets as much education as possible.

That would be a beautiful world. Our base animal instincts of greed, fear and territorialism are keeping us from building it.
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No the aliens are waiting till we blow ourselves up so they can take over get it right yoda yer an alien spy ;)
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Drowning-Man said:
No the aliens are waiting till we blow ourselves up so they can take over get it right yoda yer an alien spy ;)
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If I were an alien spy I would not tell you the truth.

If I weren't an alien spy I would speak the truth.

But how would you know?

LMAO!
 
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