Alot of leaves curling up and dying on bottom, but top is healthy wtf

Alec420 · Dec 20, 2016

vapesCHRONICally said:
Looks like bad N tox

i dont think you read any of the posts....

Stephen burke · Dec 20, 2016

Looks nasty,start again!

Alec420 · Dec 20, 2016

Stephen burke said:
Looks nasty,start again!

you didn't read anything either

R1b3n4 · Dec 20, 2016

Alec420 said:
these plants in particular were in the dark for half of flower. so Yes, the bigger plants tho have light all the time, well at least three feet of the bigger plants hah.
yes they are all growing bud sites slowly but surely. some of them have been drinking water fast. But these plants have not(in the picture) maybe because they don't get as much light.
I always try to have my Ph 6.1-6.5 and ppm has usually been 1200-1300.
I always have run off every watering, which is drianed out.
Ive once had run of though that was 2500 ppm. Does that mean the plants aren't eating?

Stephen burke · Dec 21, 2016

Alec420 said:
you didn't read anything either

I read all the posts,just giving my opinion!

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

Stephen burke said:
I read all the posts,just giving my opinion!

I can't start over bro ! I have to save my other plants, im telling you

CanniHelpYou · Dec 21, 2016

budman111 said:
Personally I would scrap those and start again.

Alec420 said:
I can't start over bro ! I have to save my other plants, im telling you

I think your best be is to try to clone whatever you can get. even in flower you can try to get cuttings and put them on 24 hours of light. I think you might be too deep to come back. Last hope could be SUPER THRIVE, and use SNS 209, even thou its all natural but i wouldnt do it to flowering plants past week 3. try to clone might be your only hope. good luck

R1b3n4 · Dec 21, 2016

Alec420 said:
I can't start over bro ! I have to save my other plants, im telling you

Its a ph issue, you are ph`ing too high at 6.1-6.5, needs to be around 5.5-5-8 ish for coco/hydro etc

Olive Drab Green · Dec 21, 2016

Alec420 said:
well, the N tox is specific to these certain plants and the revegging.
it might be root bound though...

What the fuck does this mean? N tox is pretty general in its effect upon most or all plants. It's bad. Those are super bad.

I think they're fucked and you are going to have to start over. The clone idea is pretty smart.

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

CanniHelpYou said:
I think your best be is to try to clone whatever you can get. even in flower you can try to get cuttings and put them on 24 hours of light. I think you might be too deep to come back. Last hope could be SUPER THRIVE, and use SNS 209, even thou its all natural but i wouldnt do it to flowering plants past week 3. try to clone might be your only hope. good luck

Couple steps ahead, Already have clones a month old

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
What the fuck does this mean? N tox is pretty general in its effect upon most or all plants. It's bad. Those are super bad.

I think they're fucked and you are going to have to start over. The clone idea is pretty smart.

It means this certian plant is sesitive to nitrogen, Ive been mono cropping that strain so that is my experience. the other plants show no signs of N tox. They all get the same nutes

Olive Drab Green · Dec 21, 2016

Alec420 said:
It means this certian plant is sesitive to nitrogen, Ive been mono cropping that strain so that is my experience. the other plants show no signs of N tox. They all get the same nutes

So let's see how the others look. Not to criticize, but to help you assess.

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

R1b3n4 said:
Its a ph issue, you are ph`ing too high at 6.1-6.5, needs to be around 5.5-5-8 ish for coco/hydro etc

okay ill change it, but ive been doing that range for over a month with no dying leaves until last week.
i watered my plants last night witth a 250 PPM
I checked my PPM run off, it was 2600 :cuss:

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need to water more with low ppm for this week

Olive Drab Green · Dec 21, 2016

The ones I am seeing are nute burned beyond productive viability, and it looks like they are revegging as well, which would add extra stress. It's not even worth saving them. You would be in a better position regrowing something else-- Like, getting a different seed--and starting over.

R1b3n4 · Dec 21, 2016

Also have you double checked your timers are coming on and going off at correct times etc?

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
The ones I am seeing are nute burned beyond productive viability, and it looks like they are revegging as well, which would add extra stress. It's not even worth saving them. You would be in a better position regrowing something else-- Like, getting a different seed--and starting over.

its really hard to give you good pics
mind you these plants are 5ft, with at least 3 feet of lush canopy

clones

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
The ones I am seeing are nute burned beyond productive viability, and it looks like they are revegging as well, which would add extra stress. It's not even worth saving them. You would be in a better position regrowing something else-- Like, getting a different seed--and starting over.

yeah those plants are finished except the long one lol, that would be good for outside

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

R1b3n4 said:
Also have you double checked your timers are coming on and going off at correct times etc?

they are. Because I sleep next to them almost everday

Alec420 · Dec 21, 2016

Guys I just read somewhere that using too much Ph up & down can hurt the plants.
Is this true? I have been doing this alot lately because of my ph pen has been broken, im now using ph drops. secretly hating it

Olive Drab Green · Dec 21, 2016

Alec420 said:
Guys I just read somewhere that using too much Ph up & down can hurt the plants.
Is this true? I have been doing this alot lately because of my ph pen has been broken, im now using ph drops. secretly hating it

All the more reason to consider organics. No need for a pH pen.

Alot of leaves curling up and dying on bottom, but top is healthy wtf

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