Am-2233??

shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Martins said:
I know that they are toxic but still i dont smoke them all the time so i think they are not so toxic to me. I sell that stuff to others but before that i test it.
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The thing I had in my mind when I went into engineering herbal incense blends (back when -018 was legal):

"It is approximately 5x stronger than THC.. people will only have to ingest 1/5th the amount of product than they would with marijuana."

and:

"It will be a great alternative to cannabis for those who are unable to ingest it"

What I saw in reality, was people smoking up to 12 GRAMS (at ~67mg JWH-018 / G)! It was insane! People would take a whole cannister or bag, load it up, and smoke it. It totally defeated the purpose. Now that people are utilizing AM-series, which are even stronger than JWH-018, it is rediculous to think of how much they are ingesting.

I have seen many cases of addiction with JWH / AM cannabinoid-agonists, and it is not pretty. They absolutely destroy the tolerance levels for cannabinoids. After smoking JWH blends for a while, even the strongest, Medical-Grade Herb wasn't doing the job. It is going to be a huge future problem.. if it raises tolerance to cannabinoids that high, what do they do to the endocannabinoid system? That HAS to fuck something up.

Just something to keep in mind when you sell blends. You may make a lot of money selling bulk.. but in the end, is it worth it?
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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shepj said:
The thing I had in my mind when I went into engineering herbal incense blends (back when -018 was legal):

"It is approximately 5x stronger than THC.. people will only have to ingest 1/5th the amount of product than they would with marijuana."

and:

"It will be a great alternative to cannabis for those who are unable to ingest it"

What I saw in reality, was people smoking up to 12 GRAMS (at ~67mg JWH-018 / G)! It was insane! People would take a whole cannister or bag, load it up, and smoke it. It totally defeated the purpose. Now that people are utilizing AM-series, which are even stronger than JWH-018, it is rediculous to think of how much they are ingesting.

I have seen many cases of addiction with JWH / AM cannabinoid-agonists, and it is not pretty. They absolutely destroy the tolerance levels for cannabinoids. After smoking JWH blends for a while, even the strongest, Medical-Grade Herb wasn't doing the job. It is going to be a huge future problem.. if it raises tolerance to cannabinoids that high, what do they do to the endocannabinoid system? That HAS to fuck something up.

Just something to keep in mind when you sell blends. You may make a lot of money selling bulk.. but in the end, is it worth it?
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Which is why I strictly sell JWH brownies and if I was to sell blends I would put the potency at roughly equivalent to average kine. :)
 
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Haddaway

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shepj said:
The thing I had in my mind when I went into engineering herbal incense blends (back when -018 was legal):

"It is approximately 5x stronger than THC.. people will only have to ingest 1/5th the amount of product than they would with marijuana."

and:

"It will be a great alternative to cannabis for those who are unable to ingest it"

What I saw in reality, was people smoking up to 12 GRAMS (at ~67mg JWH-018 / G)! It was insane! People would take a whole cannister or bag, load it up, and smoke it. It totally defeated the purpose. Now that people are utilizing AM-series, which are even stronger than JWH-018, it is rediculous to think of how much they are ingesting.

I have seen many cases of addiction with JWH / AM cannabinoid-agonists, and it is not pretty. They absolutely destroy the tolerance levels for cannabinoids. After smoking JWH blends for a while, even the strongest, Medical-Grade Herb wasn't doing the job. It is going to be a huge future problem.. if it raises tolerance to cannabinoids that high, what do they do to the endocannabinoid system? That HAS to fuck something up.

Just something to keep in mind when you sell blends. You may make a lot of money selling bulk.. but in the end, is it worth it?
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Shepj everything you said in this post is 100% accurate. It has actually been shown in studies (which I wish I had on hand) that show extremely potent CB1 agonists effect the receptors in EXPONENTIAL amounts especially density, which is Very important. I experienced it first hand. Not only does it cause severe receptor loss, it got to the point where I could eat a marijuana brownie made with an ounce of medical grade MJ, eat 1/2 of the batch and feel NOTHING (maybe a slightt tingly feeling). It was my last desperate attempt at getting high from MJ after I finally quit my JWH addiction and it was fucking HARD after 6 months of continuous use.. Harder than heroin for me, but then again I only had a 4 month habituation to diacetylmorphine (heroin).I didn't at all care for my hygiene, those around me I ignored and my serious gf of 3 years left me to state the least of the afflictions caused by synthetic cannainoids)

I still suffer side-effects from it SEVERELY (you only notice them when you quit)
 
DarthD3vl

DarthD3vl

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shepj said:
The thing I had in my mind when I went into engineering herbal incense blends (back when -018 was legal):

"It is approximately 5x stronger than THC.. people will only have to ingest 1/5th the amount of product than they would with marijuana."

and:

"It will be a great alternative to cannabis for those who are unable to ingest it"

What I saw in reality, was people smoking up to 12 GRAMS (at ~67mg JWH-018 / G)! It was insane! People would take a whole cannister or bag, load it up, and smoke it. It totally defeated the purpose. Now that people are utilizing AM-series, which are even stronger than JWH-018, it is rediculous to think of how much they are ingesting.

I have seen many cases of addiction with JWH / AM cannabinoid-agonists, and it is not pretty. They absolutely destroy the tolerance levels for cannabinoids. After smoking JWH blends for a while, even the strongest, Medical-Grade Herb wasn't doing the job. It is going to be a huge future problem.. if it raises tolerance to cannabinoids that high, what do they do to the endocannabinoid system? That HAS to fuck something up.

Just something to keep in mind when you sell blends. You may make a lot of money selling bulk.. but in the end, is it worth it?
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My girl cant get high off weed at all now, only spice, my state just banned the sales of the incense though, so lucky for her health i guess. i refuse to smoke the stuff, i still take 15-20mg of jwh018 in a chocolate maybe three 4 times a year. normally only on vacation when i cant bring weed.
 
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