Am I the only one who does not want it Legalized?

I think we should all just start growing Poppies.

i live in the uk...and i for one do not want it to be legal...the goverment will take control and remove the money that some of us make outa this and keep for themselves ....itl fook me up no end...

this thread is gonna get outta control..

ant1408 said:

this thread is gonna get outta control..

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lol ik right i posted just to speak my mind real quick and got all these replies.

its like that " just like to throw up some pics of where im at right now" thats out of control

the needs of the many outweigh the wants of the few,it needs to be legalized for everyone.

They say 50% of the price of oil right now is due to insecurity in and about the middle east. I would say 50% of the price of weed now is also due to insecurity about possible prosecution. If the fear of prosecution is removed by legalization, do you really think the price will drop 50%? Or will various levels of taxation rush in to fill the void?

I think the latter. That scenario might be better, especially if the "legalization" provides that anyone can grow small amounts for personal use. I doubt it will go that way right now. So most of us here might still be illegal even in the legalized scenario. I know I'm looking at the worst case, but that''s what I've come to expect from government. That's why I'm cynical about who it would really help. From what I can see, folks around here can buy equal quality weed for less than they could buy it as a legal patient in a medical state.

Hero450 said:

lol ik right i posted just to speak my mind real quick and got all these replies.

its like that " just like to throw up some pics of where im at right now" thats out of control

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So if it's legal people would be licensed to grow , scared of a lil competition ?

IMO I think it's just greedy growers/dealers that want it to stay illegal. Lower prices for the patients? Win. Able to grow to your own specifications? Win....If the government fills the void of markup with taxes who cares...it's legal..no worries

my two cents on it is that the government will fill the void of the insicureities with taxes and the prices will stay about the same.

the dealers and people making profit feel that legalization will cut into profit and maybe they are right and it will. There will always be a black market and those with the best strains are the ones that people will go to.

I just want it legal for the fact that if I were to get pulled over and they find a stem. Im getting charges

RawBudzski said:

I think we should all just start growing Poppies.

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maybe we should. I mean its legal for me to have a script of heroin, but I cant enjoy some THC.

Does anyone else see the problem here?

OP if it were legal, you could own a legal business and make legal money. I know growers/ dealers want it to continue to be illegal so they can make a nice profit BUT your thinking the wrong way. Think about it in math terms.

Price illegal ounce: 350 (It may be off, this is example).
Price legal ounce: 250

You lose 100 dollars off each Ounce and it adds up BUT one thing your missing out.

If you illegal grow, that 100 extra dollars an ounce is not worth the risk for some areas. Sure you think youve got everything on lockdown. You think no one knows about your grow, so you think. That little thought of paranoia is not worth the extra 100 dollars. Get a license, make a business plan and make a dispensary legally.

You say you worked your way up and now earn a decent amount for living. If weed is legally you'll still have your contacts to sell. You'll have to cut the price a little but in return you'll get more customers. So even though weed will be cheaper to buy, you'll be earning more customers and making more than before.

Also Niig, wrong idea. Those are the types of ideas that are stopping the legal side. I don't want those legal, just weed.

It would be alright with me if it was legal to grow and the laws pertaining selling etc. stayed the same. I have been smoking for over 40 years and and the worst thing about cannabis is greed.

Xoshua said:

OP if it were legal, you could own a legal business and make legal money. I know growers/ dealers want it to continue to be illegal so they can make a nice profit BUT your thinking the wrong way. Think about it in math terms.

Price illegal ounce: 350 (It may be off, this is example).
Price legal ounce: 250

You lose 100 dollars off each Ounce and it adds up BUT one thing your missing out.

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The way I look at it, I'd be clearing around $25 per ounce after costs/taxes, so 100ozs is (say, on average) $2500 net profit. That's ~3K watts worth of a garden. 30K watts = ~$25K net profit per run without accounting for economies of scale, so I'd be taking home at least $10K per month. Sure, it's more work, but no risk.

Then, consider the physical means of production. Using myself as an example, I'm forced to make due with the space I have, configuring the equipment to function within a given set of constraints. Now we're legal and we can rent any space we want and buy any equipment we like. Efficiency is bound to rise, raising the bottom line. Consider, for example, how skids of Pro-Mix could be delivered to our places of business that we buy at wholesale prices and on and one. It would be a whole new world.

Simon

Hero450 said:

Title say it.. I have a good business making over an middle through higher class American. If it where to be legalized where does me an everything I've put in over the last couple years go?

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Laws that penalize our right of freedom are neither moral or just.

The debate is not about your business or the confines of it. The debate is about people who feel they should have the right to choose what they put into their body, against those who say the government should be able to not only control what we ingest, but punish us if we choose to do so.

It is a rather simple argument: Should individuals be able to have freedom over their mind and body, or should the government?


If you are worried about your business, you should not be. Assuming it is that of a dispensary, there will always be a demand for medicinal-grade cannabis for specific causes, conditions and connoisseurs. Albeit you may need to redevelop your business structure and or marketing strategies, but I assure you, where there is a will there is a way.

Besides, you could finally live and work FREELY without the fear of being arrested by Federal agents if cannabis was legalized on the federal level.

Or is the money really worth all that potential pain and suffering?

But the debate, right now because MJ is illegal, is a question of legality. Legalizing our plant makes things so much simpler. Mostly the change will be paperwork for our experienced growers.

I'm an advocate of legalization because it will free our industry to offer quality product to our bonifide users, instead of the lame product they have to endure now.

I'll make this very clear, the government is only good at regulation, not good at picking product quality.

The market must be allowed to determine what is a quality product.

The coin has more than two sides

The greedy fear the legalization while the compassionate pray for it.

if it were leagalized youd still have a bussiness due to the fact that everyone doesnt want to grow. there are way more "closet" hedz than you know. they dont want theyre buddies seein or smellin reefer growing in their house or around it. thus creating more clients,also just because medical patients buy strictly from you and not off the streets already, thus youve not lost that bussiness either. i as a grower however could be included in that loop as well. you feel your bussiness is going to sufer thus i get lower prices for my product. compromise and work it out. legal isnt a bad thing.