Americans founded this land and created a government on this land. End of story.

Samwell Seed Well said:

but disrespecting the cultures that were hear before us, because we snuffed them out

is just low in my book, no need to glorify the fact that HUMAN NATURE is mean and nasty

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Turtlehermit said:

Uncle buck is it? I take it you don't like the ideal of a white man being the founder of America? You mad then huh? Got you all upset running around prancing like a little girl. Oh and yes .. my English is perfect. Back when I posted that I was still smoking, and for obvious reasons I had to quit. I was really blazed at the time. No need to get all Chief WarTon on me now okay? Okay .. glad we got that settled ... Uncle Buck.

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Turtlehermit said:

My grandma (who isn't around anymore so dont say shit about her) tells me spices can sometimes distract the scent away from other pests.

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hoagtech said:

Well, that was a dark spot on our American History, just because someone else would have done it, doesnt make it right for them either. The slavery, rape , and slaughter of coutnless natives is not (the right thing to do).

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UncleBuck said:

yep, he's 14 years old.

if your grandma were still around, i would have filthy sex with her.

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Brick Top said:

I am not defending the statement that was made that you responded to, but, Native Americans were well known for raiding other tribes, killing males, kidnapping women and children, raping some and making slaves of others. They were not innocents. They were not kind loving charitable people who were set upon by evil people. What happened to them was the same thing they did to other tribes, other than it was on a larger scale.

That of course does not justify what was done to them, but the way Native Americans are portrayed is often times very inaccurate.

I have a friend who is half Native American, though he hates that name and calls himself an Indian, lives on a reservation. He said that the tribal elders tell stories about how at times whole herds of buffalo would be stampeded off a cliff and only the tongues or only the tongues and hides would be taken, the rest was left to rot. That doesn't exactly mirror the well-crafted image some have created of how Native Americans cherished the land and every animals and only took from each what they needed, never wasting precious resources.

Something else to think about is some atrocities against Native Americans were suffered at the hands of Americans, but instead the British. Often times the story of how blankets infected with smallpox were given to Native Americans and it is called the first act of germ warfare and it is said that it was committed by Americans. But at the time there were only British colonies and acts like that were not done by Americans, since America did not yet exist and the British ruled and called the shots. That one is credited to Lord Jeffrey Amherst. Ole' Lord Jeff was anything but American.

Letters of his that have been found mention other less than kind acts that were either planned and carried out or planned but unable to carry out. One letter mentions the use of dogs to hunt the Indians, the so-called "Spaniard's Method," which Amherst approves in principle, but says he cannot implement because there are not enough dogs.

In one letter he says "...Measures to be taken as would Bring about the Total Extirpation of those Indian Nations." In another where he is saying they brought it on themselves and deserves it he says "...their Total Extirpation is scarce sufficient Attonement...." And in another he said "...put a most Effectual Stop to their very Being." (emphasis in original letter) In another letter about Native Americans he said "... it would be happy for the Provinces there was not an Indian settlement within a thousand Miles of them, and when they are properly punished, I care not how soon they move their Habitations, for the Inhabitants of the Woods are the fittest Companions for them, they being more nearly allied to the Brute than to the Human Creation."

All that, and much more, occurred before the United States of America existed, but yet American's shoulder all the blame for what happened to Native Americans.

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Turtlehermit said:

Obvious black man obvious. My grandma (who isn't around anymore so dont say shit about her) tells me spices can sometimes distract the scent away from other pests. Gotta admit, you groups are really getting worked up over this American land. This be bout the only country that people DONT know who actually should rule it. Let it be the blacks? The Mexicans? The whites? Asians? We don't fucking know because this is America and EVERYBODY lives here. lol

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Brick Top said:

I am not defending the statement that was made that you responded to, but, Native Americans were well known for raiding other tribes, killing males, kidnapping women and children, raping some and making slaves of others. They were not innocents. They were not kind loving charitable people who were set upon by evil people. What happened to them was the same thing they did to other tribes, other than it was on a larger scale.

That of course does not justify what was done to them, but the way Native Americans are portrayed is often times very inaccurate.

I have a friend who is half Native American, though he hates that name and calls himself an Indian, lives on a reservation. He said that the tribal elders tell stories about how at times whole herds of buffalo would be stampeded off a cliff and only the tongues or only the tongues and hides would be taken, the rest was left to rot. That doesn't exactly mirror the well-crafted image some have created of how Native Americans cherished the land and every animals and only took from each what they needed, never wasting precious resources.

Something else to think about is some atrocities against Native Americans were suffered at the hands of Americans, but instead the British. Often times the story of how blankets infected with smallpox were given to Native Americans and it is called the first act of germ warfare and it is said that it was committed by Americans. But at the time there were only British colonies and acts like that were not done by Americans, since America did not yet exist and the British ruled and called the shots. That one is credited to Lord Jeffrey Amherst. Ole' Lord Jeff was anything but American.

Letters of his that have been found mention other less than kind acts that were either planned and carried out or planned but unable to carry out. One letter mentions the use of dogs to hunt the Indians, the so-called "Spaniard's Method," which Amherst approves in principle, but says he cannot implement because there are not enough dogs.

In one letter he says "...Measures to be taken as would Bring about the Total Extirpation of those Indian Nations." In another where he is saying they brought it on themselves and deserves it he says "...their Total Extirpation is scarce sufficient Attonement...." And in another he said "...put a most Effectual Stop to their very Being." (emphasis in original letter) In another letter about Native Americans he said "... it would be happy for the Provinces there was not an Indian settlement within a thousand Miles of them, and when they are properly punished, I care not how soon they move their Habitations, for the Inhabitants of the Woods are the fittest Companions for them, they being more nearly allied to the Brute than to the Human Creation."

All that, and much more, occurred before the United States of America existed, but yet American's shoulder all the blame for what happened to Native Americans.

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cannawizard said:

---..why are Humans... so cruel.... sigh :\

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Turtlehermit said:

True. The Indians had kid napped several women and raped them. It was like a repeating process. Indians attacked the people invading there land, the Americans attacked back, and so on. Like Nascar the circle never ends.

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puffntuff said:

Like NASCAR the circle never ends!! Lol what a hillbilly fuck!! Go have sex with your sister/1st cousin /aunt

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Turtlehermit said:

Ya can out smart me huh? Alrighty then here. We have different opinions me boys. I can type faster then I can talk so I do make errors every now and then. Admit I do. Don't we all? I don't like the idea of this country denying its heirs the credit for making it what it is. You kids go on ahead and show me what your opinions is. Go on. Do so.

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Samwell Seed Well said:

fear and greed seem to be a very big part of human nature

that can have very cruel outcomes . . . ..

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UncleBuck said:

it goes beyond spelling.

you don't know proper usage of "since" and "sense".

and you want us to believe you are a lawyer? a lawyer who tried to grow weed in a container of mud and took grandma's advice to sprinkle some ginger and black pepper in there?

you are COOL.

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