AN Connoisseur A+B, Bud Blood, Big Bug, Carboload question

Nuikala

Nuikala

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Hey everyone. I just ordered and received my Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur blooming base. I also got for free with it some bud blood, big bud and carboload.
My question is; after i add the base nutrient, do i use the recommended amount for each of the other 3, or do i split up the amounts into 3 parts?
My plants are all 2-4 weeks into blooming and have been on just the PH Perfect Sensi Grow and calmag until now. I just harvested a 18 inch 120G cola off a 43 inch tall super lemon haze using onl veg nutrient lol. cant wait to see how the connossieur blooming stuff does.
 
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Glaucoma

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If this is your first time using it, I wouldn't go full strength with it. I've yet to use 'full strength' of their nutes on my dwc grow. I adjust amounts of AN 'extras' by the same percentage as I use the base. ie, 75% of full strength of Sensi Bloom A+B, 75% of full strength B-52.
 
tooteefrootee

tooteefrootee

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thier tech support line is open now, call them up the number is on the bottle and their guys are very knowledgeable. best to get the answers straight from the horses mouth :)
 
tooteefrootee

tooteefrootee

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i just spent a ton of money and got the entire line :) cant wait to use it. ive been using heavy 16 and that was pretty expensive but worth it. my yields were the biggest to date and ran quite smoothly. this will be my first crop using an but ive done dozens with other nutes. ive selected connoisseur ph perfect and all the suppliments. if i use a nutrition system, i use the whole line. i did the same with heavy 16 with very impressive results. over 1 grm per watt
 
Nuikala

Nuikala

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Just using the veg nutes from AN worked awsome for me and i used them all through flower. much better and easier results than the general organics i used before. Im thinking of getting the B52 as well, and a full size bottle of the big bud or bud blood, not sure which one.
So as for the strength, i can go with recommended strength, or a little less? I usually run half strength all the way through veg and add calmag, and in flowering i susually use full strength unless i notice something no good.
 
Keif Cheif

Keif Cheif

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I would just use Massive. It has all of those products in one bottle instead of 6. Its up to you though, different strokes for different folks.

Just keep in mind that the more expensive a nutrient line, does not mean that they are pulling from a more expensive "secret Earth"
 
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Jbone77

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Nuikala said:
i was thinking of calling their tech line but ill keep that as a last resort.
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If you call the tech line they will just tell you to follow the directions on the bottle and use it at full strength. That wont work. You can follow the feed chart, but as stated above, if you are using the base at 50% then use your additives at 50%. Bud blood and carboload arent part of the ph perfect package they have n were replaced with bud ignitor n bud candy so I dunno how well the ph will level off for you, once I started using my tap water with conni I had no more cal def issues n my ph was always spot on.
 
WhiteRooster

WhiteRooster

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Get a ppm meter so you know exactly how much of each nutrient you are adding to your reservoir... 3 tsp per gallon of Sensi Bloom got me to 1000ppm using RO water with my supplements I was feeding at 1250ppm
 
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max420thc

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Feel free to call ANs tech support they are knowledgeable 1 866 405 4769,The bud blood is not designed to be used in the PH perfect system. It will screw with your plants.
Ive had runs pull of almost perfect using bud blood and others go to shit using it with the PH perfect system.
Bud blood is one of the best products on the market.JUST dont use it with their sensi or connie ph perfect systems.DO NOT.
I have called AN up screaming mad with them and they informed me not to use bud blood with their ph perfect systems.BUT THEY NEVER PUT A NOTE OUT on release of the PH perfect system that bud blood will screw things up.The bud ignite takes the place of the bud blood.
If you are using AN ( i have had several years of good experience with them)Try and use most of their line up.The new system cuts out several bottles of stuff..like the cal mag and humic fulvics from their old system making it cheaper and easier to operate the AN nute line up.
For example their rino skin has a NPK rating of 0 0 13.Most silica supplements do not have the NPK rating.This product is designed to work in conjunction with the rest of their products.
Ive been sitting here doing price comparisons of their new line up vs their old line up.Comparing it to my current line up.Some of what i use is not from AN.Ive used products with good results and try to keep using them.But it looks like i should drop some of the humbolt countys own products out and replace them with ANs products..after doing a price comparison some of the products are just slightly more expensive than what i am using from other companys and some of them are actually cheaper.
Where you start seeing huge cost savings using the AN line up is buying in bulk.The discounts are huge compared to buying one litre bottles of everything.
The best place to get pricing on AN products is DAN. discount advanced nutes.I confirm anything someone tells me through this company as they sell every product from every supplier and have experience with what works best.They do not just sale AN.So i get a unbiased opinion from them.DANs number is 18664054769.Call them up and ask them what their opinion is one nutes and products.They will give you the truth.
 
tooteefrootee

tooteefrootee

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Nuikala said:
i was thinking of calling their tech line but ill keep that as a last resort.
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no worries bro, I spent 2 grand on a very nice grandmaster set with a ton of organics too, I was very open in my discussion with some of their techs. and for two grand, I wanna feel like a client like big mike states and his reps treat me as such. their support line has a few growers to talk to and believe me, they are all very knowledgeable and im glad I have them to call. they take good care of me, give em a call bro and don't be worried :)
 
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churchhaze

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2 grand on nutrients? ouch.

tooteefrootee said:
no worries bro, I spent 2 grand on a very nice grandmaster set with a ton of organics too, I was very open in my discussion with some of their techs. and for two grand, I wanna feel like a client like big mike states and his reps treat me as such. their support line has a few growers to talk to and believe me, they are all very knowledgeable and im glad I have them to call. they take good care of me, give em a call bro and don't be worried :)
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alwaysgreen420

alwaysgreen420

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Nuikala said:
Just using the veg nutes from AN worked awsome for me and i used them all through flower. much better and easier results than the general organics i used before. Im thinking of getting the B52 as well, and a full size bottle of the big bud or bud blood, not sure which one.
So as for the strength, i can go with recommended strength, or a little less? I usually run half strength all the way through veg and add calmag, and in flowering i susually use full strength unless i notice something no good.
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Start w 50% and work up from there if your already 4 weeks in why switching nutes. I would of waited till next run. Anyways I been running AN for 3 years and have never had to use over 75% recommended. And get great results
In bloom: Connie a/b, bud ignigtor, big bud, bud candy, Sensizyme, nirvana, b52, ancient earth, camg+, piranha carbo load, promix soiless

Next run trying out some bud blood and bud factor X. Had them for while just never opened


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Nuikala

Nuikala

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max420thc said:
Feel free to call ANs tech support they are knowledgeable 1 866 405 4769,The bud blood is not designed to be used in the PH perfect system. It will screw with your plants.
Ive had runs pull of almost perfect using bud blood and others go to shit using it with the PH perfect system.
Bud blood is one of the best products on the market.JUST dont use it with their sensi or connie ph perfect systems.DO NOT.
I have called AN up screaming mad with them and they informed me not to use bud blood with their ph perfect systems.BUT THEY NEVER PUT A NOTE OUT on release of the PH perfect system that bud blood will screw things up.The bud ignite takes the place of the bud blood.
If you are using AN ( i have had several years of good experience with them)Try and use most of their line up.The new system cuts out several bottles of stuff..like the cal mag and humic fulvics from their old system making it cheaper and easier to operate the AN nute line up.
For example their rino skin has a NPK rating of 0 0 13.Most silica supplements do not have the NPK rating.This product is designed to work in conjunction with the rest of their products.
Ive been sitting here doing price comparisons of their new line up vs their old line up.Comparing it to my current line up.Some of what i use is not from AN.Ive used products with good results and try to keep using them.But it looks like i should drop some of the humbolt countys own products out and replace them with ANs products..after doing a price comparison some of the products are just slightly more expensive than what i am using from other companys and some of them are actually cheaper.
Where you start seeing huge cost savings using the AN line up is buying in bulk.The discounts are huge compared to buying one litre bottles of everything.
The best place to get pricing on AN products is DAN. discount advanced nutes.I confirm anything someone tells me through this company as they sell every product from every supplier and have experience with what works best.They do not just sale AN.So i get a unbiased opinion from them.DANs number is 18664054769.Call them up and ask them what their opinion is one nutes and products.They will give you the truth.
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thanx i wont use the bud blood with the PHP...i did notice some nute burn on the chocolope kush for the first time ever using a ph perfect product. Must be from the Bud Blood
 
Nuikala

Nuikala

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Im gonna get some bud candy and b-52. I think that will be all i add for flowering with the connie. Im going to try the 3 part sensi for my veg next run. i used the 2 part last time with extra calmag.
 
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max420thc

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Normally i would say the bud blood is the best money you will spend on your grow.Knowing what it does im trying the bud ignite. next run.
Getting the plants off to a good start is the most important part to setting up your run to go well..but blood has always done this..it sets more buds faster than any product i have ever seen..i hope the bud ignite works as well..it should.
All of ANs products are designed and tested using RO water.The ph perfect systems of conni and sensi do not need any addition of cal mag as the new formula has it in the mix already.
Cal mags not going to hurt..it is just a expense that is not needed.
From ANs tech i talked to you can use bud blood in any other grow products they make..just not sensi or conni .Id only use it at under half strength if you use it just because of my problems with it.If you are not using it or the bud ignite you are MISSING THE BOAT big time.It is one of their finest products..in my opinion their best product.
The new PH perfect system if you look at the nute calculator has dropped allot of stuff out of it they used to want you to use with the old systems.Like no more cal mag..no more humic fulvics or sea weed juices.Basicly in the place of all of these products they only have one now..Nirvana Its actually pretty cheap also.I think i just got a 23 litre jug for 250 bucks or so.
If you compare their carbo load or their bud candy(both carb boosters)They are cheaper than most other brands.
Their Voo doo juice is the best micos on the market at any price..around 60 bucks a litre.
The base nutes of sensi are about 320 bucks for a 23 litre set of A and B.Thats six gallons of nutes for around the cost of many premium nute companys products 5 gallon containers.
 
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max420thc

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Click here to view the non pH Perfect Nutrient Calculator.
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Connoisseur - Grand Master Level​

Base NutrientsWeek 1Week 2Week 3Week 4Week 5Week 6FlushTotal
Connoisseur A400 mL400 mL400 mL400 mL400 mL400 mL-2400 mL
Connoisseur B400 mL400 mL400 mL400 mL400 mL400 mL-2400 mL
Hobbyist Level
VooDoo Juice200 mL200 mL-----400 mL
Big Bud-200 mL200 mL200 mL---600 mL
B-52--200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL-800 mL
Overdrive----200 mL200 mL-400 mL
Expert Grower Level
Piranha200 mL200 mL-----400 mL
Bud Candy200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL-1200 mL
Final Phase------200 mL200 mL
Professional Grower Level
Tarantula200 mL200 mL-----400 mL
Nirvana--200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL-800 mL
Sensizym200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL-1200 mL
Grand Master Grower Level
Bud Ignitor200 mL200 mL-----400 mL
Rhino Skin200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL-1200 mL
Bud Factor X200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL200 mL-1200 m
 
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max420thc

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Drop bud factor X..i have not seen a significant increase in either size or increase in resin production to warrant using this expensive product.If you want to fine.It does work..just kind of spendy for no more than it seems to do.IMO.
Tarantula same reason.
 
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