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Justin-case

Justin-case

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Fogdog said:
I cleared out the tomato vines from my vegetable beds and seeded the bed with fava beans for a winter cover crop. The green tomatoes went to a neighbor who told us they like fried green tomatoes. My wife doesn't care for them. I've never had them so I don't know what I'm missing. You ever try them?

I'm going to miss fresh tomatoes. It's usually end of July before they start producing.

I weeded the brussels sprouts and chard, picked the last of the green beans and made a nice tomato-green bean saute for dinner. A couple of grilled pork chops, apple sauce made from apples I picked from my trees a few weeks ago and pasta aioli rounded out the fare.
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Damn dog, you really do throw down in the kitchen. What time is dinner tomorrow? Fried green tomatoes are alright, I like fried pickle slices more. How are those fava beans? If I remember correctly my grandmother's Egyptian tenant used to make them. They tasted good, but were pretty stinky as I recall. It's been years.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Justin-case said:
Damn dog, you really do throw down in the kitchen. What time is dinner tomorrow? Fried green tomatoes are alright, I like fried pickle slices more. How are those fava beans? If I remember correctly my grandmother's Egyptian tenant used to make them. They tasted good, but were pretty stinky as I recall. It's been years.
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Fresh favas are real treat. What you probably remember is Ful medames, which is made from dried favas. It's a Middle East classic but perhaps an acquired taste. Fresh favas are sweet and tender, sort of in between peas and green limas. You'll see them in farmers markets in late spring. They are expensive but worth it if you've never tried them before. They do require a bit of time to prepare but it's one of the seasonal flavors that I look forward to. Some people are allergic to favas so sample a little if you try them for the first time.

It was pretty much the end of the season for everything but greens and the day was one of those golden Indian summer type days. A bit of extra effort in the kitchen and a glass or more of cold pinot gris helped me get over feeling the loss of summer and fall slipping away.
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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Fogdog said:
Fresh favas are real treat. What you probably remember is Ful medames, which is made from dried favas. It's a Middle East classic but perhaps an acquired taste. Fresh favas are sweet and tender, sort of in between peas and green limas. You'll see them in farmers markets in late spring. They are expensive but worth it if you've never tried them before. They do require a bit of time to prepare but it's one of the seasonal flavors that I look forward to. Some people are allergic to favas so sample a little if you try them for the first time.

It was pretty much the end of the season for everything but greens for me and the day was one of those golden Indian summer type days. A bit of extra effort in the kitchen and a glass or more of cold pinot gris helped me get over feeling the loss of summer and fall slipping away.
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Good to know, I'll keep my eye out this spring. Im assuming it may be too cold to grow them where I live in the winter? Have you tried growing tomatoes vertically? It can shorten your ripening time by few weeks. I also like the neatness and the space it saves.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
I cleared out the tomato vines from my vegetable beds and seeded the bed with fava beans for a winter cover crop. The green tomatoes went to a neighbor who told us they like fried green tomatoes. My wife doesn't care for them. I've never had them so I don't know what I'm missing. You ever try them?

I'm going to miss fresh tomatoes. It's usually end of July before they start producing.

I weeded the brussels sprouts and chard, picked the last of the green beans and made tomato-green bean saute for dinner. A couple of grilled pork chops, apple sauce made from apples I picked from my trees a few weeks ago and Pasta Aglio e Olio (pronounced - ayeolio)
rounded out the fare.
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OMG you never tried fried green tomatoes !!!! and yours would be fresh off the vine.
Sorry, but go to your neighbor house ASAP. explained that you need to have some of those tomatoes back. Hell pay for them if you must.
Your dinner sounds damn fucking good !!!!!

Fried Green Tomatoes

Ingredients
  • 1 large egg, lightly beaten
  • 1/2 cup buttermilk
  • 1/2 cup all-purpose flour, divided
  • 1/2 cup cornmeal
  • 1 teaspoon salt
  • 1/2 teaspoon pepper
  • 3 medium-size green tomatoes, cut into 1/3-inch slices
  • Vegetable oil


Step 1
Combine egg and buttermilk; set aside.

Step 2
Combine 1/4 cup all-purpose flour, cornmeal, 1 teaspoon salt, and pepper in a shallow bowl or pan.

Step 3
Dredge tomato slices in remaining 1/4 cup flour; dip in egg mixture, and dredge in cornmeal mixture.

Step 4
Pour oil to a depth of 1/4 to 1/2 inch in a large cast-iron skillet; heat to 375°. Drop tomatoes, in batches, into hot oil, and cook 2 minutes on each side or until golden. Drain on paper towels or a rack. Sprinkle hot tomatoes with salt.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Justin-case said:
Good to know, I'll keep my eye out this spring. Im assuming it may be too cold to grow them where I live in the winter? Have you tried growing tomatoes vertically? It can shorten your ripening time by few weeks. I also like the neatness and the space it saves.
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Dude the only way I grow tomatoes or hops is vertical. Have those babys growing up and on vines. Get a tomato cage and up up you go. Why would you not
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Justin-case said:
Good to know, I'll keep my eye out this spring. Im assuming it may be too cold to grow them where I live in the winter? Have you tried growing tomatoes vertically? It can shorten your ripening time by few weeks. I also like the neatness and the space it saves.
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That's how I do it. Vertical trellising. I start seeds indoors mid March under lights, put a cold frame up and plant starts in early May with "wall-o-water" covers inside the cold frame to help keep them warm. We typically don't get warm temperatures here in the Willamette until mid-June and they always seem to poke along until after a couple of weeks of warm weather. In this way, I usually get some tomatoes last week of July. I've tried other varieties but Early Girl taste the best to us. I could probably get tomatoes earlier with a different variety but they just don't seem worth it compared to EG.

If you are getting hard frosts it's probably too late to start favas now. If not, they will sprout and might make it through the winter. The seeds are pretty cheap if you buy in bulk and if they die during the winter, they will improve soil fertility so not much of a waste if that happens. They are a cold weather crop and can be planted about the same time you would plant peas in the spring. Inoculate the seed with nitrogen fixing bacteria and plant two inches apart. Once you first see flowers, thin to six inches apart by cutting off at the ground level leaving roots in place. The close spacing shades the soil to slow down weeds and the roots from thinned favas boost the nitrogen in the soil. The remaining fava plants that produce a crop will use up their nitrogen but it all stimulates the micro organisms in the soil so that it's ready for the summer planting without much extra work or tillage.

You can inter-plant summer starts or seeds in the favas. Tomatoes do really well with fava companions. Just make sure they aren't shaded out. The fava crop is usually done by mid June.
 
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Justin-case

Justin-case

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londonfog said:
Dude the only way I grow tomatoes or hops is vertical. Have those babys growing up and on vines. Get a tomato cage and up up you go. Why would you not
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Most people cage them, the technique I use is growing them up a single wire, while pruning all side branches and leaving fruit on the main vine. Also when buying seeds or starts you'll see they are labeled indefinite or definite. The latter being a bush style tomato that puts out a large flush of fruit all at once.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Justin-case said:
Most people cage them, the technique I use is growing them up a single wire, while pruning all side branches and leaving fruit on the main vine. Also when buying seeds or starts you'll see they are labeled indefinite or definite. The latter being a bush style tomato that puts out a large flush of fruit all at once.
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Yeah determinates produce earlier too. Is there a variety you especially like? Early girls are indeterminate and produce through August and into October but the best is mid-August to mid-September.

I do similar to you with trellising. I made a 8'hx4' wide trellis with 1/2" pipe that I can pound into the ground and attach wire fencing to the trellis. I then tie the vines to the trellis as it grows and nip off side shoots to train it to a single vine. I've been using the same trellises for a long time. Tomato cages are OK but the Early Girl variety gets really tall and over-tops most cages. They got about 7 feet tall this year.
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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Fogdog said:
Yeah determinates produce earlier too. Is there a variety you especially like? Early girls are indeterminate and produce through August and into October but the best is mid-August to mid-September.

I do similar to you with trellising. I made a 8'hx4' wide trellis with 1/2" pipe that I can pound into the ground and attach wire fencing to the trellis. I then tie the vines to the trellis as it grows and nip off side shoots to train it to a single vine. I've been using the same trellises for a long time. Tomato cages are OK but the Early Girl variety gets really tall and over-tops most cages. They got about 7 feet tall this year.
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Beef steaks or big beef is what I've had the best luck with, our season is pretty short. Grape and cherries always kick ass, obviously. I'll have to give them early girls a try again, last time i used them they were small with thick skins.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Fogdog said:
Yeah determinates produce earlier too. Is there a variety you especially like? Early girls are indeterminate and produce through August and into October but the best is mid-August to mid-September.

I do similar to you with trellising. I made a 8'hx4' wide trellis with 1/2" pipe that I can pound into the ground and attach wire fencing to the trellis. I then tie the vines to the trellis as it grows and nip off side shoots to train it to a single vine. I've been using the same trellises for a long time. Tomato cages are OK but the Early Girl variety gets really tall and over-tops most cages. They got about 7 feet tall this year.
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I've never ever had a tomato plant not overgrow the cages and wind up reaching the ground by September.

I thought it's something you just put up with. Maybe I'll try a trellis set up next year. Lots of tomatoes but always a wild ass vine.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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tangerinegreen555 said:
I've never ever had a tomato plant not overgrow the cages and wind up reaching the ground by September.

I thought it's something you just put up with. Maybe I'll try a trellis set up next year. Lots of tomatoes but always a wild ass vine.
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As the vine grows up, leave the main shoot and break off or cut off the suckers that form side-shoots. I've seen people use wood, plastic pipe, conduit. I made some out of 1/2" galvanized pipe and it lasts forever. The nice thing about galvanized pipe is you can pound on the top of the trellis with a hammer to drive the pipe into the ground without hurting it.

Here's the general idea only the gardener used conduit:
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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The warning signs were there. Animal cruelty and domestic violence really are like two of the most obvious indicators of psychopathy. For the president to say that this is not about guns really makes me wonder where the antifa fake-news story started. Aside from an absurd claim of terrorism, what other narrative can be used? There are too many crazies with guns.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Sir Napsalot said:
That's why it's good to arm oneself
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In the US, sure. You never know when a psychotic white boy with military equipment will kill a crowd of people for absolutely no reason.

At least in Mexico and Colombia you can avoid the areas where cartels operate and reduce the chances that you will catch a stray round. Nowadays even those deaths are further minimized by their aversion to attention from law enforcement.

In the United States it seems like a random occurrence.
 
whitebb2727

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SoOLED said:
I think it funny how most of these "ar's" are dressed up with tactical do-dads to look more aggressive.

you could put most of the same moving parts in a plain wooden stock/iron sight. people would be like awww look an ole'farmers gun. when its completely capable of the same damage as these dressed up hussies: some as small as 22 or 223


so this guy buys an AR, and fires it the first weekend its signed over the counter. he puts 60 rounds though it. then goes home and over the never 6 months buys 3k in "tactical" gear for his "bad bitch"

so we go to the range, he is pumped ready to tactical the shit out of the range: sets sup and starts snappin'em off, then tink,tink....WTF. he clears it and pulls the mag out, and there it is. all this time he was dreaming about how bad his bitch was; never bothered to decompress the magazines he has had loaded for months. in the end, the spring was fatigued and jammed the feed.

a lot of these people who own these fancy-scary weapons, who would never own a revolver -GASP- are not always as tactical as their gear.

in case the revolver reference was vague; you can keep a revolver loaded for a every long time vs sprung magazines needed attention.


that guy needed help, I can just see it in his picture. you dishonorably discharge a guy like that and no follow up, fuck man whos idea was that? they need to rework that department.
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Was he dishonorably discharged? Thought a person lost the right to vote and buy guns after a dishonorable discharge.
 
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