Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

HydoDan · Sep 28, 2023

rkymtnman said:
thanks to you both

and shit man, give yourself more credit. awesome pics.

that was the one thing i kinda had in the back of mind: the substrate surface didn't look nearly as colonized as some of the tutorials iv'e been following along with.

so do you think with the micropore tape, that some of humidity from my room is getting into the totes? i'm a bit scared to keep the lids off for too long and get contamination. but then at the same time, don't want them too dry either.

I've only done a few flushes, so I'm no expert.
But it looks to me like the top of your substrate should be compressed and flatter..
No peaks and valleys.. They colonize better on a flat surface..

rkymtnman · Sep 28, 2023

from syringe. strain is maui platinum.

not sure what you mean by the casing layer? i mixed up the grain bag with the CVG recipe. bottom inch or so cvg, then spawn/cvg then cvg again.

and just as an aside, my parents were decent friends with the Montgomery's (their daughter was the blonde Betty in Revenge )of the Nerds) lol

Aeroknow · Sep 28, 2023

Fangthane said:
I kinda felt like that, too. After reading some more, wish I wouldn't have cased my tubs.

I had a bunch of tubs just lagging. I flipped the cakes over, ending up ditching the liners, and pins in just a few days.

rkymtnman · Sep 28, 2023

Fangthane said:
I kinda felt like that, too. After reading some more, wish I wouldn't have cased my tubs. Before I put the coco layer on top, there seemed to be pretty solid coverage; but the casing seemed to seriously stall it out for a little before the top started getting fuzzy.

i think that explains the casing layer @Aeroknow mentioned. guess i did that too. so it's "easier" to colonize if they dont' have that layer on top?

Fangthane · Sep 28, 2023

rkymtnman said:
not sure what you mean by the casing layer? i mixed up the grain bag with the CVG recipe. bottom inch or so cvg, then spawn/cvg then cvg again.

I think that is a casing. Some people just mix their spawn and sub, then run it like that. Some put coco or CVG on top.

Aeroknow · Sep 28, 2023

rkymtnman said:
from syringe. strain is maui platinum.

not sure what you mean by the casing layer? i mixed up the grain bag with the CVG recipe. bottom inch or so cvg, then spawn/cvg then cvg again.

and just as an aside, my parents were decent friends with the Montgomery's (their daughter was the blonde Betty in Revenge )of the Nerds) lol

I’ve never tried the lasagna method so i don’t have any experience with that. Try mixing the spawn and cvg and then set and forget next time. End up with it being flat on top for an even pin set. Assuming you’re dealing with an isolate

Fangthane · Sep 28, 2023

HydoDan said:
No peaks and valleys.. They colonize better on a flat surface..

Another thing I didn't learn until slightly too late. Definitely gonna smooth it out next run.

Aeroknow · Sep 28, 2023

Got some new flavors in the mail today :hump:

each syringe will hit up a pint jar, a quart jar and 2 petri dishes.

Aeroknow · Sep 28, 2023

rkymtnman said:
i think that explains the casing layer @Aeroknow mentioned. guess i did that too. so it's "easier" to colonize if they dont' have that layer on top?

From what i gather, a true casing layer, which is applied after fully colonized, was suggested for PE strains. What you are doing is a pseudo casing layer. Not really a casing layer.
I’ve read so much shit and did the pseudo casing layer also, spawn mixed with cvg and then a little bit of only the cvg on top. Supposedly if you leave the exposed colonized grain exposed on top is bad.
I have not found that to be true. I had allot more tubs get contaminated before first flush when i was doing that pseudo casing layer.

rkymtnman · Sep 28, 2023

HydoDan said:
But it looks to me like the top of your substrate should be compressed and flatter..
No peaks and valleys.. They colonize better on a flat surface

i'll have to do better on that next time. thanks for the advice

7L!fTeD24 · Sep 29, 2023

rkymtnman said:
so a quick update: we have shrooms! there are about 4 in each shoebox. i'll post a pic later to see if all seems to be going OK.

going camping tomorrow and was hoping to have some (it's a Supermoon too this weekend) but guess i'll have to wait...

Shit if they're big enough they're the best fresh.

7L!fTeD24 · Sep 29, 2023

Another 220g PE

stickynugget · Sep 29, 2023

7L!fTeD24 said:
Another 220g PEView attachment 5331213

Hey bro so I started with pf tek nd now my cakes are almost Fully colonized . But I've noticed small insects in one of them . Like tiny insects running around any idea wtf it is?

natureboygrower · Sep 29, 2023

stickynugget said:
Hey bro so I started with pf tek nd now my cakes are almost Fully colonized . But I've noticed small insects in one of them . Like tiny insects running around any idea wtf it is?

Not good whatever they are. I'd toss that one immediately if you haven't already

stickynugget · Sep 29, 2023

natureboygrower said:
Not good whatever they are. I'd toss that one immediately if you haven't already

Damn thts a shame but on it lol

A.k.a · Sep 29, 2023

The surfaces look good, different cultures colonize the surface differently. Sometimes it’ll be totally white and sometimes it’ll look bare until pins start breaking through.

a real casing is made of peat and verm, using more of whatever substrate is in the tub is jsut called a top layer.

mushrooms have so many genetics in them that you never know what will happen with a particular tub, but overall a top layer will improve things.

7L!fTeD24 · Sep 29, 2023

stickynugget said:
Hey bro so I started with pf tek nd now my cakes are almost Fully colonized . But I've noticed small insects in one of them . Like tiny insects running around any idea wtf it is?

Fungus gnats most likely.You could end up with maggots if they lay eggs.

7L!fTeD24 · Sep 29, 2023

Aeroknow said:
From what i gather, a true casing layer, which is applied after fully colonized, was suggested for PE strains. What you are doing is a pseudo casing layer. Not really a casing layer.
I’ve read so much shit and did the pseudo casing layer also, spawn mixed with cvg and then a little bit of only the cvg on top. Supposedly if you leave the exposed colonized grain exposed on top is bad.
I have not found that to be true. I had allot more tubs get contaminated before first flush when i was doing that pseudo casing layer.

That's what I've been doing with every strain. CVG mixed with the spawn and the layer on top, I used to use only coco. Things are moving faster with cvg but I'm getting more Trich lately. Probably nothing to do with the cvg. I think my jars of LC lost their vigor after while.

7L!fTeD24 · Sep 29, 2023

A.k.a said:
The surfaces look good, different cultures colonize the surface differently. Sometimes it’ll be totally white and sometimes it’ll look bare until pins start breaking through.

a real casing is made of peat and verm, using more of whatever substrate is in the tub is jsut called a top layer.

mushrooms have so many genetics in them that you never know what will happen with a particular tub, but overall a top layer will improve things.

Ya man my PE were giving me blobs all over the surface until I put a fat layer on top and packed it down a little.

Aeroknow · Sep 29, 2023

7L!fTeD24 said:
That's what I've been doing with every strain. CVG mixed with the spawn and the layer on top, I used to use only coco. Things are moving faster with cvg but I'm getting more Trich lately. Probably nothing to do with the cvg. I think my jars of LC lost their vigor after while.

Curious what coco brick you’re using.
I’m using coco bliss.

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