Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

Man, sorry you keep having bad luck!

Guess the shroom gods are trying to tell me something.

That's the way I would look at it too..

Fangthane said:

I'm not talking about violent shaking. Just moving it around, picking up or sitting down. The spawn is very loose and doesn't seem like much moisture providing surface tension to keep it together as I'm used to seeing with rye grain. In the bags that worked for me in the past, there was typically a decent amount of condensation droplets collected on the sides in the bag. This one looks much less moist than others I've used. I injected the last of my spores in it, but this is the first one where I've been this skeptical right off the bat and I don't have high hopes.

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As I've said, I just don't see the point of those bags. They seem to have all the worst bits. You can't shake the bag, you can't level the casing and you are stuck with what ever casing depth you wind up with.

Fangthane said:

Guess the shroom gods are trying to tell me something.

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They are saying "go back to the basics, don't rely on a bunch of pre made things".

What did you pay for the bag?

canndo said:

They are saying "go back to the basics, don't rely on a bunch of pre made things".

What did you pay for the bag?

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Right. I started having these issues and I went back to shoe boxes right where I started and am reviewing everything I do step by step and making sure I take my time.

Had to add a humidifier to the tent. My RH% was in the 30's and I was having to spray just about everyday, now with the humidifier running on low the RH% is in the 70's to 80's and things are going a lot better. I thought I was getting a rust colored contam but it was the mycelium drying out. All good now.

All you can

Fangthane said:

Guess the shroom gods are trying to tell me something.

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All you can do is learn from whatever happened move on and try again. Trust me I've almost given up plenty of times, but when I know something's possible and within reach I can't let myself give up if I wanted to. I'm having pretty bad luck right now but all the early success I've had is driving me nuts trying to get back there. Have you tried shoe boxes yet? It's the way I learned and it's pretty simple, I just don't know about those all-in-one bags, especially using spores. It's kinda taking a shortcut, and IME taking shortcuts with this isn't the best, I've always had best results following every step to a t.

Blue magnolia these things come out super dense but move really slow.

Mushroom ?

i think i ran over it accidentally

Budzbuddha said:

Mushroom ?

i think i ran over it accidentally

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Budzbuddha said:

Mushroom ?

i think i ran over it accidentally

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The mushroom looks like no other which is good for foragers. The high is variable from nausea to hypnotic visions, commonly of tiny creatures in the periphery of one's perceptions. Some report euphoria, others a profound darkness and even evil.

I found them to be calming and dizzying.
Probably too late for that one. The lore surrounding this mushroom is widespread and buzzard. This is the international icon for mushrooms.

Drop That Sound said:

If you wanna get technical.. I'm pretty sure that once colonized, even the wet substrate is considered one big block of fungus, that would test positive for psilocybin all the way throughout. Even after it's spent, and you got 3-4 flushes, with trich growing everywhere... and consider it worthless, the whole bag or tub would still test positive like that right?

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besides poking it and it turning blue i didnt know it was a way for authories to check if mushrooms are really psilo

Can I start fruiting this?

Purpfarmer said:

Can I start fruiting this?

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Yeah, you can go straight to fruiting conditions directly after spawning to a bulk in a tub. No one that's up to date on any of the current teks really wait around for the substrate to fully colonize anymore, and they usually give the mono tubs full FAE fruiting conditions from the start now.

Drop That Sound said:

Yeah, you can go straight to fruiting conditions directly after spawning to a bulk in a tub. No one that's up to date on any of the current teks really wait around for the substrate to fully colonize anymore, and they usually give the mono tubs full FAE fruiting conditions from the start now.

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So contamination isn't a threat when u first put it in the tub?

Not if you were able to get clean healthy jars to start with. As far as I'm aware, being sterile is most important in the beginning stages.. up until the point of cracking open the colonized jars\bags of grains, and exposing it to open air, or mixing with bulk inert substrates or whatever.. Contamination is still inevitable from then on, but... If you have good spawn established to start with, you should be able to get all the possible fruits/flushes before anything else becomes a problem.

Drop That Sound said:

Not if you were able to get clean healthy jars to start with. As far as I'm aware, being sterile is most important in the beginning stages.. up until the point of cracking open the colonized jars\bags of grains, and exposing it to open air, or mixing with bulk inert substrates or whatever.. Contamination is still inevitable from then on, but... If you have good spawn established to start with, you should be able to get all the possible fruits/flushes before anything else becomes a problem.

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Exactly right! As the mycelium grows older and acidifies its substrate and casing, the pH becomes more and more inviting for trich. Even sterilized casing will resist contamination If it doesn't get too wet and there is any sort of air flow (trich loves stagnant air)

ch0ngnhtx said:

besides poking it and it turning blue i didnt know it was a way for authories to check if mushrooms are really psilo

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One can allow the mycelium colonized grain to dry, grind it up and extract the actives with alcohol. The yield is pretty surprising actually. There is definitely a lot of the good stuff I'm mature mycelium.