Anyone have experience with kind, lush, truth or mars?

I'm trying to find the right LED, was wondering if anyone had experience with Kind, Lush, Truth or Mars? maybe someone's been on the hunt and have thoroughly researched all of these? I'm trying to fill up two 9x9 areas with LEDs.
 

Bad Karma

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Trust me, as a long time LED user, and guru, I can tell you stay far, far, away from all of the brands that you mentioned above. They are poor investments that you will ultimately be disappointed with.
Your best options for a grow that size are either some COB's or CMH lights.
Look into Optic Lighting, or Heaven's Bright, for some good prices on COB lighting.
 

hyroot

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Cobs are the best led lighting right now. Diy cree or Vero cobs. Or optics , Pacific lighting concepts, and amare tech are the only companies making quality cob panels. Area 51 is coming out with some soon. Then theres Cmh - lec 315w or induction - inda gro. All good options.

The ones you named are all rebranded China direct low quality panels that all use over driven epistar, epiled and knock off diodes low bin diodes and sloppy wiring.
 

PurpleBuz

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I'm trying to find the right LED, was wondering if anyone had experience with Kind, Lush, Truth or Mars? maybe someone's been on the hunt and have thoroughly researched all of these? I'm trying to fill up two 9x9 areas with LEDs.

unless your willing to treat them as disposable units (use a few times and throw away) don't buy.

afaik these brands are regurgitating old tech with inferior and relatively inefficient components (compared to current level of led tech).

- if they manage to run for more than a year, they will be outdated in a year or so because of the advances in led tech
 
Thanks for all your replies, i bet that just saved me thousands if what you're saying is accurate! wow their propaganda sure works, as I was thinking these were close to high end brands.
You mentioned Amare, I'm talking with them about a quote right now! What is it about their product that makes them of good quality? Cree components? Are they also Chinese company, or American (I'm wondering about the warranty process and how repairs are done if they're far away)? Would 9 of their lights cover a 9x9?
 

FeNuX791

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go with Area 51 man. I've had experience with Kessils, Kind, and CLW and they get shit on by A51.
the buds look big with those lights but they're not actually dense. I use basically 3x A51's but my nugs are solid af now. And those lights are cheaper than the others.
 
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