Anyone know how to trace a hidden IP address or masqueraded IP

Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Is there a way to trace a hidden or masqueraded IP address back to the source computer? This is way beyond my talents but i believe if i was an internet engineer i could possibly or even know a program that will (preferably one a mere mortal can use).

The Ip address i have is from an email, weve all seen those basic email cons to send money or goods with hidden Ip addresses. Can they be reverse hacked to produce the original senders address, im guessing not as this would defeat the scam but no harm in asking and looking stupid for not knowing?
 
Kingrow1

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gribniff said:
Sure can. Problem being, the originating system will be a spoof or zombie machine.
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It is just some one using a hidden IP address, some mule for a gang or whatever. The scam was big a few years ago but now it seems to be running again. I didnt know if there was a way of getting their original address rather than some server in a completely unrelated country.

I guessed it might involve sending them malware or something viscous to hack the address from their end or some program that does a search at the time they send an email. Not really in to this stuff but 21st century and all it might not be too complex.

Theres no particular reason just asking, most people seem unable to do anything, logically id be wanting to get their Ip address just for kicks.
 
curious2garden

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Kingrow1 said:
It is just some one using a hidden IP address, some mule for a gang or whatever. The scam was big a few years ago but now it seems to be running again. I didnt know if there was a way of getting their original address rather than some server in a completely unrelated country.

I guessed it might involve sending them malware or something viscous to hack the address from their end or some program that does a search at the time they send an email. Not really in to this stuff but 21st century and all it might not be too complex.

Theres no particular reason just asking, most people seem unable to do anything, logically id be wanting to get their Ip address just for kicks.
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First rule of hacking is never hack from home. So refer to gribniff's reply.

Second point is if they are big, and secure, enough to hack from 'home' you will not be ready to handle the consequences of touching their firewall.

Just block the emails and move on.
 
greg nr

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Worse yet, the ip you see was probably that of the mail server, not the user. You can use nslookup to get basic info, Or use a whois service.

But again, it will only get you to the mail server. If you want to know the ip a user used to connect to the mail server, you will need a court order. They won't give those out on request (well, the big ones anyway).

The feds have ways to trace it back to a source. Even if it went through a vpn. But they won't share.

You can send them a loaded email, but they will have to open an attachment just like you would. ;)
 
Kingrow1

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greg nr said:
Worse yet, the ip you see was probably that of the mail server, not the user. You can use nslookup to get basic info, Or use a whois service.

But again, it will only get you to the mail server. If you want to know the ip a user used to connect to the mail server, you will need a court order. They won't give those out on request (well, the big ones anyway).

The feds have ways to trace it back to a source. Even if it went through a vpn. But they won't share.

You can send them a loaded email, but they will have to open an attachment just like you would. ;)
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The loaded email sounds easier, could that get me their address maybe more? Surely there is a cleverer way of sending an attachment or whatever apart from the obvious 'click me' rubbish....
 
greg nr

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Kingrow1 said:
The loaded email sounds easier, could that get me their address maybe more? Surely there is a cleverer way of sending an attachment or whatever apart from the obvious 'click me' rubbish....
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Sorry, can't help you with black hat stuff. But there are tools out there if you look hard enough. You just have to be trickier than they can understand. Script kiddies are malicious, but the tools tend to be so easy to use they don't understand a lot about how they work.
 
Singlemalt

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greg nr said:
Sorry, can't help you with black hat stuff. But there are tools out there if you look hard enough. You just have to be trickier than they can understand. Script kiddies are malicious, but the tools tend to be so easy to use they don't understand a lot about how they work.
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^^^This

There are ways but as said above, it's difficult and you'd have to play catch up in an endeavor in which you have no skill. You were phished, it's not personal and they don't know you. If you didn't bite, they will forget about you.
 
tyler.durden

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Kingrow1 said:
Is there a way to trace a hidden or masqueraded IP address back to the source computer? This is way beyond my talents but i believe if i was an internet engineer i could possibly or even know a program that will (preferably one a mere mortal can use).

The Ip address i have is from an email, weve all seen those basic email cons to send money or goods with hidden Ip addresses. Can they be reverse hacked to produce the original senders address, im guessing not as this would defeat the scam but no harm in asking and looking stupid for not knowing?
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tangerinegreen555

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tyler.durden said:
I can do this, the process is easy. Please send $19.95 to Tyler.Durden @ www.thisisnotascam.com and I will be in touch with the next steps. Thanks!
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Jimmyjonestoo

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tangerinegreen555 said:
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Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Clearly obvious that i need to start hanging out on ultra hardcore hacking sites at some point.

I was able to ping the server that had the private IP address and got about 20 results from their end which i can only assume was their server traffic but two results were private or internal and only four were public IP addresses with the others being company servers like amazon etc etc.

All four of those different IP addresses track back to the same one location in my country, of which a few years back the same scam was tried until the police finally arrested a small gang of immigrants.

Probably just coincidence but i did use some good IP tracking programs and ones that tried to look further down the line/nodes. As i said i have only a basic understanding and the final results could only get to with in a six mile radius, there was no further i could go with any program or code.

Can i just reiterate that this was not me, it just peaked my interest into how far hackers had got into cracking private IP addresses.

Thanks :-)
 
tyler.durden

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Kingrow1 said:
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The bad you sounds far more interesting...
 
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