Anyone used Short day cycles 6/12 ??

RanTyr said:

That would require me doing the hard part of the research process so that all you have to do it read.

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hahahahaha

if doing the research is the "hard part" then you still have much to learn.

what i was asking you to do is actually help those who are reading this thread. OBVIOUSLY you know more about the subject than others. why not share the knowledge?

by the way, what is "hard part" of doing research? is it typing it into your internet search engine?

rantyr,
i understand that you are going to reply to this with an attack of any and all knowledge that i may or may not have. that is fine with me as long as somebody actually learns something.

if you actually know what you claim then you would have just answered my question. those who are looking to help share what they know.

those who are looking to hinder....well you know who you are. or do you?

the church man said:

hahahahaha

if doing the research is the "hard part" then you still have much to learn.

what i was asking you to do is actually help those who are reading this thread. OBVIOUSLY you know more about the subject than others. why not share the knowledge?

by the way, what is "hard part" of doing research? is it typing it into your internet search engine?

rantyr,
i understand that you are going to reply to this with an attack of any and all knowledge that i may or may not have. that is fine with me as long as somebody actually learns something.

if you actually know what you claim then you would have just answered my question. those who are looking to help share what they know.

those who are looking to hinder....well you know who you are. or do you?

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If to you wading through years of botanical research to find the relevant studies is easy then perhaps you should seek employment in said area. It most certainly isn't excessively difficult but tedious is an applicable adjective.

How can you presume to know how I would reply to your insightful reply? Baseless assumptions are what I would expect from the other morons on here. Don't stoop to such a ridiculously low level, it doesn't suit your intellect.

Oh. There is a difference between helping and doing work on behalf of others. Perhaps it is callous of me to force my warped ideology on laziness onto others, but at least I gave a decent jump-off point. Allowing misinformation to circulate unchecked is a more egregious error than being a dick in my opinion.

I wanted to know if any of you took time in this thread to read the link I posted for you all? Hope all is well and look forward to comments based on this thread again. Thanks. Much Success.

RanTyr said:

Oh. There is a difference between helping and doing work on behalf of others. .

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dude, you are such a fool... you dont even see how un intelligent you make yourself look...

your last 3 posts talk about

"why would i want to look up the answers for you fools"

Which in turn means... you currently DONT KNOW THE ANSWERS.

If you knew the answers... there would be no work!

You could have rattled them off in shorter time than i took you to try to use larger words in your last post...

so the point is... you just want to be right, and others to be wrong... and you have yet to figure out why you are right... but if you dig through enough books, you assume you have a shot at proving one of us wrong...

but you dont want to do that because thats time and work..

but its not time and work to combat angry souls who you tell are "incorrect" and dont take the time to expain the real truth...

because you dont know it yet... so it would be work to go look it up.

are you kidding right now? do you have any idea how dumb you look?

RanTyr said:

That would require me doing the hard part of the research process so that all you have to do it read.

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if you know we are incorrect.. the the research process should have already been done before you insulted us with "you are incorrect"


Let me give you a bit of advise because it appears you have missed the boat...

here on the internet, there are forums. On these forums, people share knowledge to help eachother. no one knows everything, everyone is going to be incorrect sooner or later...

but telling someone they are incorrect doesnt fix the problem... you have to share the correct knowlede with them.

Apparently, you have yet to find the correct knowledge yourself...

RanTyr said:

That would require me doing the hard part of the research process so that all you have to do it read.

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"doing" is future tense, vs "did" which means you already have done it... dictionary boy. It means you admitted that you have yet to do it! Which is why it would require WORK for you to tell us the truth because you dont have it stored in your brain yet...

so please... get out of our way because you are a waste of time and finger movements, and have effectively de-railed a good conversation between people WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE THE TIME TO SEARCH FOR TRUTH, AND SHARE IT WITH EACHOTHER.... within this hard to grasp place called "an internet forum"

In other words... take your dictionary of big words, and get lost... youre not fooling anyone... but yourself into thinking you have a chance at appearing intelligent at this point.


"i dont want to share knowlede on internet forums, i would rather spend my day telling people they are incorrect, because i sure they are, but i dont want to do the rsearch to figure out why. This makes me feel better about myself if i think everyone else is incorrect. Myself and a violent ape have a lot in common, except i have a dictionary and can type. Bravo me, bravo!"

rantyr,

i am actually considering an occupation in the cannabis industry. i feel that i could make a positive impact and of course it is one of my passions. thanks for the suggestion...

i was not asking you to do the work for me. my intention was for you to provide an accurate base of information that myself and others could expand on. i'm sure you're aware (there i go with assumptions again) of the wealth of misinformation out there and the difficulty of finding good ground to stand on.

you are right. i did make an assumption regarding your reply. to assume is to make an ass out of you and me. this is not typical behavior for me and i make no excuses

there are few (read: very few) people on RIU who i've come to respect. these people are earnest in their efforts to help others and knowledgeable about the activity that brings us all together. there are also few threads on RIU that are very helpful and informative. these two things have one thing in common; the ability to exchange information selflessly. this is why i joined in the first place. i felt that i could benefit from and contribute to this gathering of individuals from around the world even though i'm inexperienced (flowering my first grow).

i agree with you're opinion that allowing misinformation to circulate unchecked is a more egregious error than being a dick. but i feel that you did the minimum to correct this "circulating misinformation" while at the same time kind of coming off as a dick. don't get me wrong, there are times and situations that call for being a dick but i don't think that this was one of them. but what do i know? i'm a dick

i hope that i didn't and don't come across as aggressive or an instigator. i was trying to push you to show what you know. i have spent countless times and moneys learning and am usually eager to share this with others. i'm trying to encourage the spread of accurate and helpful information. i've read all your posts and threads and am interested in your opinion on a variety of things. i support (mostly) what you've been doing on RIU. maybe we can PM or something? i get the feeling that we'll get along fine



pinner420,

are you talking about the archived thread? i read it and was encouraged by the results. its nice to see a deviation from the norm be successful. the little "experiment" he did was well recorded and i'm grateful that it has been archived. thanks for the link!

does anyone else have any great archived threads or forums? i'd be interested in these....

Woa, take a chill everyone.

If people would take the time to read what I said... These are the facts. I've been doing short cycle growing since it was invented in the eighties.

Fact; yes you do save money on electricity...
Fact; the 6hr days and 12 hr nights do force the plants mature much faster.
Fact; some plants love this application.
Fact; you will only harvest the same amount as you would have without speeding the maturity in the respect to the end of harvest being earlier.
Fact; I didn't say 12/12 for cloning I meant 24 hrs total day length as opposed to 18 hrs proposed here in this thread.
Fact; Most people aren't disciplined enough to run a 18 hr day cycle and fuck it up.
Fact; there has been no reliable timers that can do 6 on and 12 off so I figured out how to do it off a simple 7 day 10 event timer. (I do own a harvest master also)

Again if anyone is listeing, timing is 6 hr 40 mins 'ON', 12 hrs off for 9 events.
Then the cycle starts again seemlessly.
This fits 9 days into seven days.

Also, running a plant 24/7 IS harmful, causing what I call Schysophrinia to mothers kept that way for months.

plasmargon said:

Also, running a plant 24/7 IS harmful, causing what I call Schysophrinia to mothers kept that way for months.

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How would a 24/7 cycle be harmful? If 24/0 has already been proven to not be harmful how would a 24/7 cycle be harmful?

Greetings
I am doing a 6/12 room as we speak and have a journal up of it on this site and have noticed similar results to 12/12-
I am interested in all that surrounds this topic of playing with the photoperiod.
This thread is for those interested in it to share so we can learn,lets not get hung up on name calling.Lets keep it movin
Sherriberry-Thanks for stoppin by and sharing your findings.

Plasmargon-I am interested in knowing if your alaskan friend was using co2 in his room.I read the harvestmaster field study which stated co2 was used,but i myself have not used it in my 6/12 run as of yet.

I had a friend who ran 5/12 with co2 and did well,I am thinking of doing a full room at 6/12 if this run goes well.
Thanks and praise

didnt read the thread but i did something like this .... had a normal plant and 2 autoflowers in a closet .... 12/12 the autoflowers took more than 12 weeks instead of 8

very intriguing. If I could I would grow one clone under 6/12 and another under 12/12 both using the same kind of light, side by side to compare.

ok guys....

this is relating to the thread topic but not entirely. my plant is in flowering but is growly way too quickly. i'm going to be tying her down but it won't be enough. do you think that if i reduced the amount of light she gets that it will slow down the growth? i'm not sure what to think. i'm thinking of reducing the light to nine hours and then fifteen of dark.

let me know what you guys think

thanks....

How late in flowering are you? Have you looked into "bushmaster?"

hey i had a friend who used to grow in one of those fish aquarium looking things high times always advertises.anyway he would grow some dang weed in a little over 55 days.he would start his seedlings with 24 hours of light for about a week then he would give 1 hour of light the first day,then he would add a hour everyday until he got to 24 hours.then he said he would start the count down taking off an hour everyday til he got back to no light and the plant was done.he had some dank buds.but i have had good results with18/6 veg.to 12/12 flower.i ain't changing cause of the hermification factor and good dank buds.i guess you can't grow a big plant in one of those things anyway.well good luck on all your grows.

i'm a bit more than two weeks into flowering. she's just now showing her pistils so i'm assuming will keep growing for another month. i only have maybe ten inches vertically. i'm just gonna tie aggressively. i've also shortened the daytime just to see what happens

headbandrocker said:

How late in flowering are you? Have you looked into "bushmaster?"

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when are u gonna start this

If you want to eliminate the stretch get "bushmaster" it will stop stretch very well,and will speed up your finishing time by a few days.
I had the same problem in my 4x8 tent under 6/12 as i let my clones grow too big in the cloner and didnt have room to raise lights in the tent,the stretch was halted completly.
good luck