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Neon-Lotus

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I bought some living soil and the amendment but there are three other products on offer and I'm wondering if they are really worth buying. They are Bokashi, Mycorrhizal Fungi, and Microben Terra Acuts which is "100% Unsulphured black strap molasses containing a multitude of microbes and beneficial bacteria".

Does anyone have any experience using them and are they worth the extra cost?

Thanks
 
GenericEnigma

GenericEnigma

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Neon-Lotus said:
I bought some living soil and the amendment but there are three other products on offer and I'm wondering if they are really worth buying. They are Bokashi, Mycorrhizal Fungi, and Microben Terra Acuts which is "100% Unsulphured black strap molasses containing a multitude of microbes and beneficial bacteria".

Does anyone have any experience using them and are they worth the extra cost?

Thanks
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It depends on what’s included in the living soil and amendments. Some mycorrizae might help, but it might already be in the soil. Bokashi might help, but your soil might already have that bacteria.

I have never bothered feeding my soil's bacteria with molasses. I usually recharge with compost.

Sometimes you don't need those extra products. It's good you're looking into it!

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Richard Drysift

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Mycorrhizae is worth the extra fuss but as someone said it is usually prevalent in most healthy soil/composts. Granular mycorrhizae works great for inoculating root balls for fungal dominance; I use it at each transplant; just sprinkle a tiny bit in the hole and place the root ball in direct contact. You usually will see vigorous growth when the myco starts to bite into the root system. This is an example of when less is more; a small amount of mycorrhiza is beneficial for the entire grow cycle.
Bokashi is an ancient Korean farming practice and is equivalent to having a worm bin. Honestly I’d pick fresh ewc over bokashi any day but if you live somewhere you cannot have a live worm bin then bokashi is a viable alternative. The benefits of active compost cannot be overstated.
I’d use just regular Grandmas brand molasses for brewing teas. No need for fancy microbe infused molasses. A form of sucrose is needed when brewing teas to provide the herd with a form of food so they get back to having ample sex and then offspring to fuel a population explosion. I have never given molasses to the plants directly but could see why some growers would want microbially active molasses if given as “food” for the soil. For aacts I don’t see the point. The EWC has everything needed except a form of sucrose to feed the microbes themselves. Maple syrup, brown sugar, or honey are all just as effective. Keep it simple
 
Mason Jar 92705

Mason Jar 92705

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I use to spend a lot of $ on that Mycorrhizae stuff and I gotta tell ya…..what a waste of money! lol maybe I’m just a big dummy and wasn’t doing something right but I never saw a difference when using it and not using it. All these XYZ products, to get people to spend $. That’s the bottom line.

Molasses……what are we doing, fellas, making pancakes?! I don’t use that sh*t anymore either.
 
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amneziaHaze

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Living soil has mycos.but if you had a soil that dried out i would buy it to restart the soil.mycos are amazing but as everybody told you dirt allready has some.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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Mycorrhizal will only attach when the root will allow it to. It needs to be looking for p-k. I can't remember which one p or k. I'd there's an abundance it will not attach. The root will send a 'signal' allowing the mycorrhizae to attach. Look it up. I have covid brain so I can't think properly right now.
 
Jjgrow420

Jjgrow420

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Richard Drysift said:
Mycorrhizae is worth the extra fuss but as someone said it is usually prevalent in most healthy soil/composts. Granular mycorrhizae works great for inoculating root balls for fungal dominance; I use it at each transplant; just sprinkle a tiny bit in the hole and place the root ball in direct contact. You usually will see vigorous growth when the myco starts to bite into the root system. This is an example of when less is more; a small amount of mycorrhiza is beneficial for the entire grow cycle.
Bokashi is an ancient Korean farming practice and is equivalent to having a worm bin. Honestly I’d pick fresh ewc over bokashi any day but if you live somewhere you cannot have a live worm bin then bokashi is a viable alternative. The benefits of active compost cannot be overstated.
I’d use just regular Grandmas brand molasses for brewing teas. No need for fancy microbe infused molasses. A form of sucrose is needed when brewing teas to provide the herd with a form of food so they get back to having ample sex and then offspring to fuel a population explosion. I have never given molasses to the plants directly but could see why some growers would want microbially active molasses if given as “food” for the soil. For aacts I don’t see the point. The EWC has everything needed except a form of sucrose to feed the microbes themselves. Maple syrup, brown sugar, or honey are all just as effective. Keep it simple
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Agave nectar is better.
Pure cane sugar is good too
 
curious2garden

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Jjgrow420 said:
Mycorrhizal will only attach when the root will allow it to. It needs to be looking for p-k. I can't remember which one p or k. I'd there's an abundance it will not attach. The root will send a 'signal' allowing the mycorrhizae to attach. Look it up. I have covid brain so I can't think properly right now.
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This is a good article about the different types of mycorrhizae and discusses the hyphal mantle:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Mycorrhiza: a natural resource assists plant growth under varied soil conditions

In this overview, the authors have discussed the potential advantages of the association between mycorrhizae and plants, their mutual accelerated growth under favorable conditions and their role in nutrient supply. In addition, methods for isolating mycorrhizae ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly

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Neon-Lotus said:
I bought some living soil and the amendment but there are three other products on offer and I'm wondering if they are really worth buying. They are Bokashi, Mycorrhizal Fungi, and Microben Terra Acuts which is "100% Unsulphured black strap molasses containing a multitude of microbes and beneficial bacteria".

Does anyone have any experience using them and are they worth the extra cost?

Thanks
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Here's the thing with the living soil (any soil ), you'll need to know what's actually in your soil and what amendments it actually needs. That would be my starting point. And you should probably do that before each run as your plants will take a lot out.

Logan Labs will test and have an agronomist read the test and give you a detailed breakdown of what needs to be added for about a hundred bucks.
 
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