Are Bio Bizz Bio Bloom and molasses enough?

I am into all organic flowering on a perpetual cycle. I am currently using Bio Bizz Bio Bloom and Heavy Weight (molasses) mixing them into 1 gal of spring water. The plants are in a soil mix of FFOF and Roots Organic. My question is, from the products I'm using, can someone tell me if the plants are getting everything they need, such as secondary and trace minerals? If not, can anyone recommend any organic additives I can begin using?

As always, thank you and +REP to the serious and helpful responses.

turkish420

I have been using BioGrow and BioBloom as my only 2 nutes in ProMix soil. It has worked ok, but they seem to yellow a lot in flower. Unsure why, could be this strain. The main ingredient in BioGrow is molasses, so I think you should be ok. However, I think you probably are missing or lacking some things

Might wanna look into organic teas - I'm going to try using only them next grow.

edit: I do use epsom salt to try to add the trace minerals

thank you rucca and SIR SMOKER! I appreciate the quick responses from both of yall!

check the bottle for complete ingredients.. all that is listed is kelp & molasses. i have used bio bloom & found its best as an organic additive. however its less expensive for me to buy molasses & kelp & mix them up myself

turkish420 said:

thank you rucca and SIR SMOKER! I appreciate the quick responses from both of yall!

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If you need the feed guide i can dig that up for you if you want.
(back on later).

i have 2x types of guano, trichderma + mycorhizzae, epsom salts (only when needed and would rather mix in lime during potting really), biobizz topmax, billingtons molasses and canna boost (inorganic but will be doing sidebyside trials with the organic version and whole applicable range in the near future for personal preference) and more. O yeah fish blood and bone meal and plantmagic biosilicon

turkish420 I used those for a long time with outstanding results but lowish yields (did suffer from bad envirments at the time though ie warm ambient air already at 24 degrees at intake and only flowered under halide light which is good for quality but bad for quantity) and some strains came through really resiny, so resiny infact it would ruin the taste a bit. dont know if this was the halide or just the biobizz but tryin out a few different things and now only using BB topmax (heard this is a good feed source for the mycorhizae aswell) and the rest is from other manufacturers.

Actually have done some HPS grows with Biobiz and they were ok really, lovely fat dense stinky nudz with only their grow bloom and maybe some topmax. Generally I think its not what nutes you use ( not utter shite but almost any of the many (sometimes cannabis specific) nutrients brands availible today) but how you use them in conjunction with the rest of your equipment like lights and vent fans etc to create the most ideal enviroment for your plants

Do yourself and your taste buds a favor and add some worm castings. Makes great tea just add 2 tb sp molasses for every gallon, it feeds the microbe army your growing in the tea.

Peace

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· [FONT=&quot]In the hole, spread root over a mound of the mix, and cover[/FONT]
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· [FONT=&quot]Apply in spring, early summer, and fall[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]During the growing season, side dress once every 2 months at a[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]rate of ½ cup per plant or 1 cup per linear foot of row[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Worm castings vs. Chemical fertilizers in Soil1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Criteria for Comparison Chemical Fertilizers Worm Castings[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Macro Nutrient Contents[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mostly contains only one (N in urea) or at the most two (N & P in DAP)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]nutrients in any one type of chemical fertilizer[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Contains all nutrients in sufficient[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]quantities, i.e., nitrogen (N),[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]phosphorus (P) and potassium (K)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Secondary Nutrient Contents[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Not Available[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Calcium (Ca), manganese (Mn) and sulphur (S) are available in required quantities[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Micro Nutrients Contents[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Not Available[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Zinc (Zn), boron (B), manganese, (Mn), iron (Fe), copper (Cu), molybdenum (Mo) and chorine (Cl)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]are also present[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]pH balancing[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Distorts soil pH, which creates saline and alkaline conditions[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Helps control soil pH and corrects the salinity and alkalinity in soil[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EC Correction[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Creates imbalance in soil EC, affecting nutrients assimilation[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Helps balance the EC to improve plant nutrient adsorption[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Organic Carbon[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Not Available[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Very high organic carbon and humus contents improve soil characteristics[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Moisture Retention Capacity[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Reduces moisture retention capacity of the soil[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Increases moistures retention capacity of the soil[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Soil Texture[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Damages soil texture to reduce aeration[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Improves soil texture for better aeration[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Beneficial Bacteria and Fungi[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Reduces biological activities and thus the fertility is impaired[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Very high biological life improves the soil fertility and productivity on sustainable basis[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Plant Growth Hormones[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Not Available[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sufficient quantity helps in better growth and production[/FONT]
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right im off to get some worm castings when I can even though had to move all of my grow due to security issues

So? It's safe to use Biobizz Biobloom (2 ML/L), Topmax (1 ML/L) and Molasses (2 ML/L)?
Or that would overfeed my sweety?

I've been complementing with Agave Nectar for sometime now and I see the difference, but I sense some Mg deficiency and believe pure molasses will help.
Also, some yellow leaves, but that's actually good - less nitrogen, less chlorophyll taste.

turkish420 said:

I am into all organic flowering on a perpetual cycle. I am currently using Bio Bizz Bio Bloom and Heavy Weight (molasses) mixing them into 1 gal of spring water. The plants are in a soil mix of FFOF and Roots Organic. My question is, from the products I'm using, can someone tell me if the plants are getting everything they need, such as secondary and trace minerals? If not, can anyone recommend any organic additives I can begin using?

As always, thank you and +REP to the serious and helpful responses.

turkish420

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Focus more on your soil dressing rather than a feeding schedule. You need to have a good selection of organic foods in your soil for healthy plant growth, after you feel comfortable with your nutrients in the soil start a feeding schedule with occasional breaks in feeding. Your plant will thank you if you give her just plain old water after one or 2 feedings!
Fox farm is a good soil but definitely look into a good soil mix
i mix up Earthworm Castings, Jamaican Bat Guano, Mexican bat guano, bone meal, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, volcanic rock dust, sulfur pellets(for pH), dolomite lime, trace mineral pellets, michorizzae, humic acid in my soil
and feed with liquid Peruvian Bat guano, maxicrop(Norwegian kelp) and hydrozyme in flower
Get to know your strains growth and nutrient preference and try different things. It takes time to really "know" your herb
Hope this helps a bit

-CC