are whites good americans?

are whites good americans?

  • no, whites are not good americans

  • yes, whites are good americans

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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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i don't think whites are good americans.

whites are the biggest drain on our resources and economy.

they have done terrible things to other americans over the years resulting in more death and suffering to innocent americans than anyone else. think slavery and the genocide of the natives and the internment of the japanese and denial of civil rights to black people, gay people, trans people, and more

anyone who complains about the government is basically just complaining about white people, since the government has been almost entirely composed of white people for centuries. so anti-establishment anger is just anger at whites and is based on the fact that they are not being good americans

and whites outlawed cannabis too.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SB85 said:
The corrupt politicians don't give two shits about white/black or any other crayon color that exist
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yes they do, that is why the criminal justice system is so brutally biased against non-white people. whites have absolute dominance over the criminal justice system and have wielded that power unfairly against non-white people, another example of why whites are not good americans
 
SB85

SB85

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UncleBuck said:
yes they do, that is why the criminal justice system is so brutally biased against non-white people. whites have absolute dominance over the criminal justice system and have wielded that power unfairly against non-white people, another example of why whites are not good americans
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The average white person has nothing to do with what those in the corrupt legal system does
 
Excessive_Toker

Excessive_Toker

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UncleBuck said:
i don't think whites are good americans.

whites are the biggest drain on our resources and economy.

they have done terrible things to other americans over the years resulting in more death and suffering to innocent americans than anyone else. think slavery and the genocide of the natives and the internment of the japanese and denial of civil rights to black people, gay people, trans people, and more

anyone who complains about the government is basically just complaining about white people, since the government has been almost entirely composed of white people for centuries. so anti-establishment anger is just anger at whites and is based on the fact that they are not being good americans

and whites outlawed cannabis too.
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I agree. I think we can narrow it down to white Democrats, wouldn't you agree?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
i don't think whites are good americans.

whites are the biggest drain on our resources and economy.

they have done terrible things to other americans over the years resulting in more death and suffering to innocent americans than anyone else. think slavery and the genocide of the natives and the internment of the japanese and denial of civil rights to black people, gay people, trans people, and more

anyone who complains about the government is basically just complaining about white people, since the government has been almost entirely composed of white people for centuries. so anti-establishment anger is just anger at whites and is based on the fact that they are not being good americans

and whites outlawed cannabis too.
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Be the change you want to see, whitey.
 
Splaap

Splaap

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Bugeye said:
I support Caucasian castration. Impractical to send them all back to Europe.
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Sounds a little harsh. I hope I can pass.
I have become attached to all my appendages,
great and small. Ancestry.com says I am 26%
Iberian peninsula, 22% So. European, 18% Native
American, 13% Sub-Saharan African, 11% Irish,
and about 3% S.E.Asian. I don't know who I am
supposed to hate. And why am I not 100%?
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Splaap said:
Sounds a little harsh. I hope I can pass.
I have become attached to all my appendages,
great and small. Ancestry.com says I am 26%
Iberian peninsula, 22% So. European, 18% Native
American, 13% Sub-Saharan African, 11% Irish,
and about 3% S.E.Asian. I don't know who I am
supposed to hate. And why am I not 100%?
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Maybe just a smidge too white. Snip snip.:bigjoint:
 
jimihendrix1

jimihendrix1

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abalonehx said:
What's a 'good American' anyway? Sounds like the shit Sean Hannity says all the time to the callers who agree with him. Conservative circle jerk lingo.





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I Real American is 1 whos ancestors predate modern occupation by any race other than Native American. And ya cant blame blacks, as they were kidnapped, and enslaved, and brought to some unforsaken land. Millions died in the 300 years of slavery.

All the rest of us are just occupiers, that really have little control of where we go, as I'm sure most of the countries our ancestors came from.

Don't want us the fuck back either. So were ALL stuck here toghther, and until we all get over ourselves, and playing the divide and conquer blame game they aint like us. Theres never going to be any peace.





Here are a few facts:


1. Europeans took Africans away for about 450 years starting in 1441. The Arabs were in this business several hundred years before the Europeans (starting in circa 750 AD). In the US, we often start the discussion in 1619 but by then there were already millions of enslaved Africans in Cuba, Haiti, Brazil and elsewhere in the Americas. .

2. Africans were taken many places including the US, the West Indies, Central and South America, Europe, India, Arabia, virtually everywhere.

3. Warfare and village raiding were the primary sources of slave acquisition. Many people died. While it is true that some greedy African kings sold their own subjects to the Europeans this was not the only source of slaves. Slave raiding by foreigners was not uncommon.

Look on your bookshelf and pull out a copy of the World Almanac. Turn to the section where they have world population data. Here is what I find (1990 edition, page 539; in other editions just look up "world population"):





Continent









Millions:

1650

1750

1850

1950

Africa

100

95

95

200

Europe

100

140

265

530















Interesting?? Just look at the numbers. During the 200-year period from 1650 to 1850, there was a 165 million increase in the European population. The population of Africa declined. You might say, quite correctly, that the Africans were being transported to the "New World." However, so were Europeans. Besides, the African population of all North and South America in 1850 was, maybe, 20-25 million maximum. Thus, we are missing a bunch of folks; by any measure (that is, unless you think white folks simply multiply faster than we do).

No!! That cannot be. The math is really not so hard to understand. Consider these estimates:

For every 100 healthy survivors of a raid on a village, you can bet that 200 were left dead or maimed for life. Remember, no one volunteered for slavery. We fought bitter fratricidal wars with each other to generate slave captives. (Read: Before the Mayflower by Lerone Bennet, Jr.)

Of that 100 captives, on average only 70 made it to the coast. Many died along the way. Some brokenhearted, some suicides, some just physically unable to make the trip. Imagine, if someone captured you, killed your family and told you to march 400+ miles from Los Angeles to San Francisco. Many of you would die too! Many of the weaker or wounded captives would be viciously shot as stragglers just to convince the strong to march on.

Of the 70 reaching the slave prison on the coast, maybe 50 lived to board the slave ship. If this gives you problems, talk to someone you trust who has visited those most heinous slave castles on the West Coast of Africa; like Elmina or Cape Coast in Ghana. Or even worse, Goree Island in Senegal. Up to 1000 people crowded into a filthy, hot room, for weeks, months, sometimes up to a year. I've been there. One visit will haunt you for the rest of your life. Visitors will tell you they still hear the cries of misery in those dungeons. Here, warriors from different sides that may have raided each other's villages were chained together and were rudely awakened that they had both been deceived into war by the same common enemy. And don't overlook those who were killed as a part of the early "seasoning" process. I've read where people were cut in half by guns or canon fire just to scare the remaining folk to cooperate.

Of the, say 50 or so people that board the ship, generally 25-35% die in the miserable conditions of the "middle passage" from disease, murder (mutiny was common) or suicide along the way. It was not uncommon for Africans to jump overboard or refuse to eat and die to avoid life as a slave. It is said that sharks often followed slave ships because so many bodies were thrown overboard. There are also numerous examples of slavers throwing their cargo overboard to collect the insurance. (Read: Malcolm X On Afro-American History or Eyewitness Accounts of Slavery in the West Indies by Paiewonsky)

So maybe 35 people from the original group land in the West Indies (or other parts of the Americas). We are not done yet. You can't take someone who has always been free and immediately expect him (or her) to accept slavery. No -- seasoning is required. Breaking-in. Like a horse or a mule or a bull. Here is where the new masters teach you what happens to difficult slaves. An example was made, sometimes using a pregnant woman suspended from a tree. The white man would cut open her stomach and stomp the unborn baby -- just to show you who's boss. This may cut the number to 30. (Read: From Slavery to Freedom, J H Franklin)

Not done yet. In the West Indies especially, it was considered to be more economic to import new slaves than to prolong the lives of those already in residence. Thus, of the 30, often 80% were dead from disease, malnutrition and simply being worked to death within five years. (Read: C Columbus & the African Holcoaust by J H Clarke)

If you still question the 100 million dead figure, just do the math yourself. We started with 300 people. 100 left the village. 50 got on the boat. 35 landed in America. 6 were alive five years later. These are my estimates based on my reading of various authors. However, no one can dispute the numbers in the almanac. Where are the missing people????? The answer is simple: they were murdered directly or indirectly at the hands of the European and Arab slavers and their African lackeys (yes, Africans were participants). My guide at Elmina castle told me that for every African captive that reached the coast for transshipment, 12-15 people died in the wars, resultant starvation and the trek to the shore. If this is true, you can take the modest estimates of Newsweek saying 13 million left Africa, add 20% who did not survive the slave forts, the result yields about 15 million. Multiply that by 12 and you get 180 million lost. The world population figures are making more sense, huh?

And remember - the slave trade from East Africa to the Arabian countries, India and China started much earlier -several hundred years earlier. And this trade continued long after the Europeans had had their fill. If you investigate further, you'll even find out that the continued slave trade by the Arabs was one of the key rationalizations the Europeans used to justify colonizing Africa - to end the Arab slave trade.

The holocaust did not end there. The "colonial" period started in 1884. Although it is rarely discussed, slavery was reestablished by the Belgians, the French and the British in several parts of Africa. The Belgian Congo (now Republic of the Congo) alone experienced a population decrease of 10-20 million people in the first 25 years of foreign rule. Millions of Africans were maimed, tortured and murdered during colonialism. (Read "King Leopold's Ghost," by Adam Hocschild for more background on the early colonial stage of he African Holocaust. This ugly period of history was almost totally covered up.)

Read more about King Leopold II and the direct connection to a need for redress (reparations)for this horrible crime.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Splaap said:
Sounds a little harsh. I hope I can pass.
I have become attached to all my appendages,
great and small. Ancestry.com says I am 26%
Iberian peninsula, 22% So. European, 18% Native
American, 13% Sub-Saharan African, 11% Irish,
and about 3% S.E.Asian. I don't know who I am
supposed to hate. And why am I not 100%?
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There's enough white in there to just call you a white guy.
 
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