As if I didn't already think her and those who support her are idiots...

Dragline

Dragline

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Palin now says Obama is in bed with big oil. I guess I missed the memo that said it was Democrats who parrot drill baby drill every chance they get. Hey Sarah, hows that drilly baby spilly stuff workin for ya?!?! *wink*

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100523/pl_afp/usoilpollutionenvironmentpalinobama_20100523204803


Palin suggested this close relationship explained why Obama was, "taking so doggone long to get in there, to dive in there, and grasp the complexity and the potential tragedy that we are seeing here in the Gulf of Mexico."
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REALLY?!?! I thought the government was supposed to stay out of private industry? Since when is it the governments job to be in the healthcare oops I mean private corporation oil spill clean up business? So are you Palin lovers Libertarian today or are you back to your big government can fix everything as long as its Republican roots?

BTW, I am all for the government stepping in. Hell, I say takeover BP in the US all together and liquidate it to pay for the clean up at this point. This is not only an ecological disaster thats getting bigger every day. It is an economic nightmare in the making too.
 
kendothegreenwizard

kendothegreenwizard

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C'mon. Of course Obama is in bed with Big Oil.
The contributors that are connected with Big oil contributed no less than 230K to Obamas presidential campaign, 71K from BP employees alone.
with over $174,000,000 in lobbying money there is no one who is not touched by the hand of big oil, especially palin and Obama.
 
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redivider

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i'd make it a personal thing. freeze any and all compensation to senior execs in BP until this spill is contained. i guarantee it would be over and done with by next week, even if it means dropping several thousand pounds of tnt down there, or barging several million tons of concrete out to the site, whatever it takes, it would get done if those execs loose their compensation until it's fixed.....


it worked wonders for the bailout.

government capped executive pay to 200k per year or something like that until they paid back loans to the govt, and banks payed back the bailouts within the week.
 
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NoDrama

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redivider said:
i'd make it a personal thing. freeze any and all compensation to senior execs in BP until this spill is contained. i guarantee it would be over and done with by next week, even if it means dropping several thousand pounds of tnt down there, or barging several million tons of concrete out to the site,
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Several thousand pounds of TNT won't do jack shit, your gonna need thousands of TONS of TNT to do that job right. Drop all cement you want to, the oil will find its way right through. There are very very few options, each day we get closer to using a nuke to stop this leak. Thats right, a nuclear warhead is looking like the only option, and it comes at a real bad time what with Obama wanting all countries to get away from ever using those kinds of devices. He's in a real pickle here.

If you want to make some money, buy put options on BP stock.


Oh and hey lets not forget that federal law puts a cap on the fine for an oil spill at 75 million, which is like 1 day of profits for BP, so they really aren't too concerned with the government right now, mostly they are doing everything they can to try and collect and store the oil to make a profit, they don't really give a shit if 10 states have their beaches ruined for a generation at all.
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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NoDrama said:
Several thousand pounds of TNT won't do jack shit, your gonna need thousands of TONS of TNT to do that job right. Drop all cement you want to, the oil will find its way right through. There are very very few options, each day we get closer to using a nuke to stop this leak. Thats right, a nuclear warhead is looking like the only option, and it comes at a real bad time what with Obama wanting all countries to get away from ever using those kinds of devices. He's in a real pickle here.

If you want to make some money, buy put options on BP stock.



Oh and hey lets not forget that federal law puts a cap on the fine for an oil spill at 75 million, which is like 1 day of profits for BP, so they really aren't too concerned with the government right now, mostly they are doing everything they can to try and collect and store the oil to make a profit, they don't really give a shit if 10 states have their beaches ruined for a generation at all.
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Is there actual discussion of using a nuclear blast to stop this?
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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tinyTURTLE said:
russia has done it a couple times.
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Yeah I looked it up and found a story about that, where they nuked a natural gas leak, and I knew nuclear specialists have been to the scene. I don't know that this has ever been done under water, and what it means to the animals and the people who live in that area. Scary stuff nonetheless.
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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a low yield tactical nuke would do less damage than another few weeks of oil volcano.
it would remove the water @ the detonation point and fuse the sea floor into a slolid mass.
 
abe23

abe23

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^^it's awful but i almost agree. This is fucking disgusting. We've ruined one of our country's greatest natural treasures for at least the next 15-20 years. It's like if we burned down yellowstone.

Oh and I totally don't give a fuck what that money grubbing piece of trash sarah palin has to say....seriously, I'm much more in interested in what my mechanic thinks about all this.
 
medicineman

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Nuke it?? Maybe that would work, if it actually fused the sea floor. What if it just made a huge hole and there would be no way of plugging that off. Criminal action must be applied for their greedy act of expediency, IE removing the drill mud and filling with sea water, also for not repairing or replacing the blowout preventer, as they knew it was flyblowed. This is a classict case of unfettered capitalistic greed, do it faster for less money to raise the bottom line, fuck the consequences.. Life on the gulf coast will not be the same for a long while, if ever. That region will be a dead zone for sea life for years, maybe decades. Will BP pay those that made a living from the sea for the next 10-30 years?? Wanna bet, those people will get fucked just like always, while the BP execs enjoy ever increasing bonuses. Pathetic. What's it going to take for the people to get riled up enough to start killing these assholes, put a bounty on them. I could certainly come up with a list, a long one.
 
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redivider

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the gov't can't prevent BP from selling their product because they need money to be able to clean it up.

i'm telling you guys. if they freeze all compensation to execs while this is cleaned up, it would be plugged and done with QUICK.

it would be a shitty move, because regardless of what we think, it was an accident...

they clearly over-stated their damage control capabilities too.... it's complicated....

and 10-20 years for things to go back to normal?? those are the numbers being churned out by the experts at BP.... hehe...

i say more like 50 years, or more, we don't know how much oil is below the surface. some say it's a slick 4 feet deep in some areas, others say it could be as much as 20 feet deep in others....
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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medicineman said:
Nuke it?? Maybe that would work, if it actually fused the sea floor. What if it just made a huge hole and there would be no way of plugging that off. Criminal action must be applied for their greedy act of expediency, IE removing the drill mud and filling with sea water, also for not repairing or replacing the blowout preventer, as they knew it was flyblowed. This is a classict case of unfettered capitalistic greed, do it faster for less money to raise the bottom line, fuck the consequences.. Life on the gulf coast will not be the same for a long while, if ever. That region will be a dead zone for sea life for years, maybe decades. Will BP pay those that made a living from the sea for the next 10-30 years?? Wanna bet, those people will get fucked just like always, while the BP execs enjoy ever increasing bonuses. Pathetic. What's it going to take for the people to get riled up enough to start killing these assholes, put a bounty on them. I could certainly come up with a list, a long one.
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Attach capitol punishment onto some of this stuff and I bet you see much less of it, I bet you see backup plans being put in place 1st rather than being talked about later. Go back to an example like Enron: You have you're life ruined by a murderer or taking what you have worked to attain for years, in some cases it probably even leads to suicide. Execute one of these jackasses, and the next one has to really consider what he's doing, problem solved, or revenge is had, right now they don't give a rats ass, pocket change.
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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redivider said:
the gov't can't prevent BP from selling their product because they need money to be able to clean it up.

i'm telling you guys. if they freeze all compensation to execs while this is cleaned up, it would be plugged and done with QUICK.

it would be a shitty move, because regardless of what we think, it was an accident...

they clearly over-stated their damage control capabilities too.... it's complicated....

and 10-20 years for things to go back to normal?? those are the numbers being churned out by the experts at BP.... hehe...

i say more like 50 years, or more, we don't know how much oil is below the surface. some say it's a slick 4 feet deep in some areas, others say it could be as much as 20 feet deep in others....
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Than after they clean it up,hit BP with massive operating costs of doing business here, case solved. BP is probably thinking of a way to get tax money to pay for cleanup as we speak, because it may have an effect on the bottom line.
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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Keenly2 said:
capital punishment? LOL

how very american :roll:
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When you apply to be a citizen of the United States and pass all necessary exams, than I will respect you're opinion about what our country should do to handle this bs. As of now Americans are fed up with this crap, you wanna ruin lives, put you're own on the line.
 
R2F

R2F

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Maybe I missed it, but none of BP's people were actually at or operating the rig.

The ones that own and operate the rig are Transatlantic, a juggernaut of the drilling world. BP pays Transatlantic 1/2 a million bucks a day to drill, so at the end of the day, the ones that fucked up the drill site are Transatlantic.

If you go deeper down the rabbit hole, why did they have to go to ultra-deep waters to drill? It wasn't because they wanted to drill the depths, it was because of idiots that didn't want shallow water drilling off the coast. Drilling at the depths that the disaster occured is still new tech. You're bound to have issues like this when pushing the envelope.
 
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NoDrama

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R2F said:
Maybe I missed it, but none of BP's people were actually at or operating the rig.

The ones that own and operate the rig are Transatlantic, a juggernaut of the drilling world. BP pays Transatlantic 1/2 a million bucks a day to drill, so at the end of the day, the ones that fucked up the drill site are Transatlantic.

If you go deeper down the rabbit hole, why did they have to go to ultra-deep waters to drill? It wasn't because they wanted to drill the depths, it was because of idiots that didn't want shallow water drilling off the coast. Drilling at the depths that the disaster occured is still new tech. You're bound to have issues like this when pushing the envelope.
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And since its so new, all the old tried and true shallow water methods for stopping accidents like these from happening have not been tried, like the top hat thing that got full of frozen gas and didn't work. That little sippy pipe they put in to recover as much oil as they could is like trying to deplete a Olympic size pool with a bendy straw. The newest "junk Shot" almost makes me laugh, I sure hope they can stop it all up with shredded tires and golf balls, otherwise its just more mess to clean up. Then there is the ADDED disaster of using a dispersant in such large quantities, who knows how much damage we will do to the world with this one, If all the plankton died the entire earth would shortly turn into a lifeless ball of mud.
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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R2F said:
Maybe I missed it, but none of BP's people were actually at or operating the rig.

The ones that own and operate the rig are Transatlantic, a juggernaut of the drilling world. BP pays Transatlantic 1/2 a million bucks a day to drill, so at the end of the day, the ones that fucked up the drill site are Transatlantic.

If you go deeper down the rabbit hole, why did they have to go to ultra-deep waters to drill? It wasn't because they wanted to drill the depths, it was because of idiots that didn't want shallow water drilling off the coast. Drilling at the depths that the disaster occured is still new tech. You're bound to have issues like this when pushing the envelope.
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Well they hired them, and they should be taking care that they know there are backup plans in case this happens. A group of 12 year olds would realize there would need to be safety measures 3 deep for such an undertaking, alas, it is all about the bottom line. And if the penalty was harsh enough than I can assure you this wouldn't have been this large.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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Take the guys responsible, Nail their balls to the floor in a crusty old shack, give them a rusty razor blade and set the shack on fire, Justice is served.
 
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