Attention! I have just been approved for grow!

bde0001

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So, I have just been given approval to go ahead and grow. Sooo excited anyways...My question is on a 110 v outlet, will 2 400 watt lights, 1 40 pint dehumidifier, 1 4" 165 cfm fan and 2 small ocilating fans. I guessing its around approx. 1000-1200 watts total. i beleieve i have hjeard that a 110v outlet on a house can handle 200 watts but 1800 to be safe. i think? if anyone can help I would appreciate it! scooby doo if ur on here bro lemme know!
 

Brother Numsi

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Find out how many anps your breaker is....your equipment should list the amp draw as well as the watts drawn. 80% of the rated circuit is usually safe e.g. 20 amp breaker use 16 amps. Check out the amps on your equipment and add them all up :)
Good luck!! Oh, you can PM Scooby.
 

ricky6991

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Go to lowes or hardware store an get 10-2 wire and a 30amp breaker. Easy easy to do and nothing to worry about
 

ThegrowerMOJO

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wouldn't put more than 2 400 on a single outlet .and yes your amps is what you need to be looking at not watts.most homes are rated at 20 amps per circuit but would check your breaker box to make sure.
 

bde0001

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hey, thanks well i checked and each botton on my old ass pushmatic says 15 each breaker butten. I cant seem to find out where it says how many amps my 400 watt hps uses? do watts convert to amps?
 

bde0001

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Go to lowes or hardware store an get 10-2 wire and a 30amp breaker. Easy easy to do and nothing to worry about
wouldnt this be bad cause couldnt this cause a fire within the walls? Im not an electrician but it sounds like ur trying to bypass the breaker from shutting off if it gets overloaded with electricity. If this is what your explaining than wouldnt my wires inside the walls overheat or something. also the electricial is original from the 70's when the house was built. again im no electrician but it sounds like ur talking about bypassing the original breaker from shutting off if too much power is running thru the wires.
 

bde0001

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wouldn't put more than 2 400 on a single outlet .and yes your amps is what you need to be looking at not watts.most homes are rated at 20 amps per circuit but would check your breaker box to make sure.
yeah it said 15 amps per button, so im guessing thats for each curcuit. but there would be multiple outlets for every circuit generally right? so if I had 3 outlets in my space on the same circuit than ur saying to dont use more than 2 400's on a single outlet, but ur not saying I cant use 2 400's on 2 diff outlets that are hooked up to the same circuit right?
 

mr2shim

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yeah it said 15 amps per button, so im guessing thats for each curcuit. but there would be multiple outlets for every circuit generally right? so if I had 3 outlets in my space on the same circuit than ur saying to dont use more than 2 400's on a single outlet, but ur not saying I cant use 2 400's on 2 diff outlets that are hooked up to the same circuit right?
No, just no. Amps. Don't worry about watts, ever. You usually don't want to push a circuit past 80% of it's rated amps. So your circuit breaker is rated at 15 amps don't go past 12amps on that circuit.

Yes there are multiple outlets per circuit. You can't run 15 amps on each outlet that would trip the circuit. The amp rating is on the ballast. For example my 400w ballast is 4 amps. So if you run 2 400w ballasts rated at 4 amps on one circuit you're using 8 amps total on that circuit(assuming nothing else is on the circuit). Even if they were plugged into different outlets, if those outlets are on the same circuit you sill shouldn't exceed the rated 15 amps.

You can have 30 outlets per 15 amp circuit. You can NOT run 2 400w per outlet on that 1 circuit. You would probably blow up the circuit if you tried to do something that stupid.

Honestly, if you don't understand how circuits work I really don't think you should mess around with changing the breakers. You could end up killing yourself.
 

bde0001

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No, just no. Amps. Don't worry about watts, ever. You usually don't want to push a circuit past 80% of it's rated amps. So your circuit breaker is rated at 15 amps don't go past 12amps on that circuit.

Yes there are multiple outlets per circuit. You can't run 15 amps on each outlet that would trip the circuit. The amp rating is on the ballast. For example my 400w ballast is 4 amps. So if you run 2 400w ballasts rated at 4 amps on one circuit you're using 8 amps total on that circuit(assuming nothing else is on the circuit). Even if they were plugged into different outlets, if those outlets are on the same circuit you sill shouldn't exceed the rated 15 amps.

You can have 30 outlets per 15 amp circuit. You can NOT run 2 400w per outlet on that 1 circuit. You would probably blow up the circuit if you tried to do something that stupid.

Honestly, if you don't understand how circuits work I really don't think you should mess around with changing the breakers. You could end up killing yourself.
hey thanks! but just to be clear say I have 15 amp curcuit. and i hook up 2 400 watt lights(8amps total) to that 1 outlet ( one outlet can fit 2 plugs) will I be good? I know the curcuit is rated at 15 amps so 15 amps would handle 8 amps but are you saying dont hook those 2 lights(8amps) to that 1 outlet?
 

D3monic

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hey thanks! but just to be clear say I have 15 amp curcuit. and i hook up 2 400 watt lights(8amps total) to that 1 outlet ( one outlet can fit 2 plugs) will I be good? I know the curcuit is rated at 15 amps so 15 amps would handle 8 amps but are you saying dont hook those 2 lights(8amps) to that 1 outlet?
Go for it.. just pay attention to what else may get plugged in on that circuit. Chances are most the plugs in that room are on the same one so say you plug in a shop vac or something that draws high amps you could pop the breaker.
 

bde0001

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Go for it.. just pay attention to what else may get plugged in on that circuit. Chances are most the plugs in that room are on the same one so say you plug in a shop vac or something that draws high amps you could pop the breaker.
thanks bro
 

chrishydro

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You can also go to the store and get a server battery backup and plug the lights into this unit and run the other stuff off a power strip. This will lesson the load on the circut, they cost about 200 bucks for a good one but you also dont have to worry about power surge during a storm or power outage. I lost a ballast before on a single power surge.

Worth the money for sure.
 

mr2shim

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hey thanks! but just to be clear say I have 15 amp curcuit. and i hook up 2 400 watt lights(8amps total) to that 1 outlet ( one outlet can fit 2 plugs) will I be good? I know the curcuit is rated at 15 amps so 15 amps would handle 8 amps but are you saying dont hook those 2 lights(8amps) to that 1 outlet?
You can hook them up to the one outlet. What I'm saying is don't exceed 15 amps on that circuit. Meaning, using the other outlets on the same circuit for heavy amp appliances.
 

Brother Numsi

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When all else fails...contact the manufacturer of each item that is not marked with the amperage. Never exceed 80% of what the circuit breaker can handle....that's if you are able to tell what everything is that's plugged into that circuit. Do not mess with a rewire, circuit breaker change, or any other modification.

This will be a learning experience for you!!
 

bde0001

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When all else fails...contact the manufacturer of each item that is not marked with the amperage. Never exceed 80% of what the circuit breaker can handle....that's if you are able to tell what everything is that's plugged into that circuit. Do not mess with a rewire, circuit breaker change, or any other modification.

This will be a learning experience for you!!
sure has been. I would have never had the motivation to do so either unless it was fueled by something I like, which it is. Just need to find what you like. Too bad its illegal, but If I just take a look at the bright side of things, it being prohibited means more money to ya.
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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7amps - 800w of lighting
4amps - 30 pint dehumidifier
1amp - 4" inline fan
1amp- 2x12" Wall Fans on HIGH
2amps - controllers, thermostats, regulators, etc...

15amps - Total'

you have a 20 amp breaker. as long as you stick with that suff and dont' add anything else larger than a thermostat, clock, etc... you will be just fine. just make sure nothing else is plugged into those circuits.
 

Brother Numsi

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Geez Scoob, my 13K A/C draws almost 11 amps...won't have much more on that circuit LOL....that'll cool down the 2 600w bulbs in the tent.
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Geez Scoob, my 13K A/C draws almost 11 amps...won't have much more on that circuit LOL....that'll cool down the 2 600w bulbs in the tent.
if it's a 15amp circuit than you won't want anything else on it. if it's a 20amp you could squeeze a few inline fans and controllers on there too. that 13k will be more than enough for those tent i think. the issue you might run into is that it doesn't have to work that hard so it won't be dehumidifying as much either. may have to get a small 30pint dehumidifier; especially for when the lights are off and the ac doesn't work near as much. biggest cause of powdery mildew is temperature and humidity spikes that lead to moisture forming in the plant. those little 30pints only pull like 3.5-4 amps.

i actually talked to the OP via PM so i had some inside info.
 
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