Aussie Growers Thread

WAZZER

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For coco, it's pretty important to keep it all flowing through and not let anything build up.

There are several ways people do this.

1: Make sure every watering has no less than 20% run-off. This makes the new feed a flush at the same time pushing out all the old salts and replacing them for the new ones (which are in the right ratio etc, not just left overs)

2: Incorporate a monthly flush of plain water to clear the slate and start fresh.

3: Some people alternate between feed and water. First time it dries out, you fertilize and then the next time you do water and so forth. If you were doing this one, it wouldn't be essential to have so much run off or regular full flushes. Some people get this one to go really well but personally I don't trust it since you could wind up deficient on some elements (my theory) before the next feed happens.

About your tap water's EC adding on top of your fertilizer... hehe duh. Water isn't fertilizer... so try to get as blank a slate as possible with your water so all the EC is useful. If you have to use water with an EC, yes you will add your fetilizer at the strength it says on the bottle and your end EC will be higher than that (because it adds on top of the base EC the water starts at). That's why you should know what your water EC is to being with so when you check it after you add the fertilizer you know how much is actually the fert or not.
tThanks for the info i new there must be more coco growers out there supa smoka has helped me out quite a bit but not every one runs the same system, i gave them a big flush last night im going to let them dry out tonight and give them a feed tomorrow ive tryed foiler spray epson salts heck even put some in reservior did not see any difference but dood ive got unfotunantly broad mites cant get rid of them i think when they bite they inject toxines and stress them out but the boys down newcastle got broad mites as well but there not getting these drameres what ive got, this is the first time in veg im getting these problems its normaly in flower 4th week on the ph in the medium goes down to about 4.5 to 5 runoff.
 

WAZZER

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PS: I personally prefer run to waste with coco coir to remove the risk of the nutrient ratio going out of wack (lesser needed stuff building up while needed stuff being used and gone)
Of course that's a lot more expensive than recycling though.
I agree and the taste is alot better as well ,hey what type of nutrients do you youse and your feed times and pot size .
 

dl290485

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At the moment i'm not running coco.

In the past i've used 8L pots with Canna Coco in it. I had 9 plants in 1.2 m2. I hand watered them (run to waste) so I could personally pick the right time so they wouldn't be too wet or dry and also make sure the run-off was enough. So basically I didn't say 'feed every 3 days' or anything- I just checked their moisture level every day and went from there. To start with it was something like 4 days between but at it's thirstiest (about week 4-5) then they needed watering every 2 days.
Every time I watered it was with Green Dream 2 part fertilizer with Grostorm (kelp extract) and CMX (calcium + magnesium supplement). I just started the dose out real low and worked it up. When the buds just started to form, I started adding Budstorm (PK additive) at half strength then full strength a week or so later. Once every few weeks I ran just plain water through it and checked the EC of the run off.

If you are running off at 4.5 or 5 it sounds like something is going wrong. The coco itself should be buffering you up around ph 6 - 7.
 

WAZZER

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At the moment i'm not running coco.

In the past i've used 8L pots with Canna Coco in it. I had 9 plants in 1.2 m2. I hand watered them (run to waste) so I could personally pick the right time so they wouldn't be too wet or dry and also make sure the run-off was enough. So basically I didn't say 'feed every 3 days' or anything- I just checked their moisture level every day and went from there. To start with it was something like 4 days between but at it's thirstiest (about week 4-5) then they needed watering every 2 days.
Every time I watered it was with Green Dream 2 part fertilizer with Grostorm (kelp extract) and CMX (calcium + magnesium supplement). I just started the dose out real low and worked it up. When the buds just started to form, I started adding Budstorm (PK additive) at half strength then full strength a week or so later. Once every few weeks I ran just plain water through it and checked the EC of the run off.

If you are running off at 4.5 or 5 it sounds like something is going wrong. The coco itself should be buffering you up around ph 6 - 7.
Im running the same flair form but trying green dream one was runing g2 they say more stable ph cant see mutch of a difference and i do the same with the budstorm and i use a moisture meter, im running 14l coco/perlite 70/30 1inch clay balls on the bottom and top 4 pots under 600w , i was adjusting the ph 5.8 letting drift to 6.3 for flowering 4th week comes ph drops out then mg lock out 5 runs in a row what head fuck but this last round i come back one day ph drifted to 6.8 in the res the run off was 6.1 could not believe it .
 

WAZZER

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Update gave them a big flush went back next day and they responded very well cranked the ec to 2.0 so 1.4 nutes and .6 water feed them 2hrs after lights come on ec runoff 1.15 and feed just before lights went off ec 1.25 runoff so yeh looks like it worked flushed the salts out ,i was running 1.4 -.6 .80 ec they were hungry so easy to screw things up .im worried the root mass is getting pretty dence i got to do the flip to 12hrs i bought some cannazyme but they changed the formula a while a go and i tested it with the paper trick to see if it dissolves it and it didnt and i stopped using it that was about a year ago but i bought some to day any won out there still using it and i want to try cycos sugar rush as well makes them more dence and resiness aparently pretty popular.
 

2easy

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aquaponics has started flowering. everything seems normal in fact i would say im getting a great flower response







 

dl290485

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It's so cool.
Only way you could make it cooler is if you had a tank where you can watch the fish too while gazing at your plants :bigjoint:
 

WAZZER

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aquaponics has started flowering. everything seems normal in fact i would say im getting a great flower response







looking nice bro that fourth picture looking at the leaves some of them look like some things been cheewing on them i get that some times what is that
 

2easy

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looking nice bro that fourth picture looking at the leaves some of them look like some things been cheewing on them i get that some times what is that
what your seeing is damage from pulling the new shoots in and out of my screen
 

2easy

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haha maybe i should be, except the smell is a little off putting at the moment. this plant actually smells already but it is a lot different to how it smelled in coco.

in coco my daybreaker #1 smelled like chem/ fuel with a little Body odour and a hint of lemon.

so far in aquaponics she smells of cats piss/ burnt rubber. i guess the organic nature of aquaponics is going to bring out a few differences?
 

sippinslurpies

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nah in my experience it hasnt been needed. the screen offers enough support
My latest grow I had buds the size of a 1.25 coke bottle on stems the size of a bic pen.... I think i went a bit too overboard with the supercropping. Next grow I'm gonna add a screen up high so i dont have to run so many string lines to hold them up.
 

sippinslurpies

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Dont ya just love it when a fellow grower stops by and is amazed at yr grow? Haha.... my mate was like "you've done that on 600w of light without any aditives?" and here i was thinking id totally stuffed up the grow.
 

2easy

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i wouldnt know i have never met another grower in person :(

AC/DC by Mr nice :)



i was feeding this girl lightly because its supposed to have a high percentage of haze genetics but i gotta tell ya i will be bumping them up next feed
 

sippinslurpies

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Most of my mates from 10 years ago all grow their own, we are all hippies who actually wanna know what we are smoking,. I just find such comments are good coz every grow i think ive fucked up and not done well. Once all dried and cured it all changes though.
 

dl290485

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I keep finding spider mites in the outdoor (legal) garden :cuss:

I found them in my tent room about a week or two ago and have been using lots of Eco-Neem (neem oil extract) to keep them in check. It seems to be working really well because even though it's not a knock down spray I haven't seen a single bug or chew hole since I started applying it. I only hoped to limit their growth but it's possible they aren't even in my tent room anymore. I've been spraying every 3 days or so though and doing each plant leaf by leaf to make sure it's a through coating.

When I first found them my wife was like where did they come from and I was like I dunno they just appeared... well since then I found them on an ornamental ginger plant. It's a good looking plant and was actually in flower, but rather than keep on a persistent and thorough treatment of it I just decided to ditch it. I snapped it off at soil level and then poured the top portion of the soil out into the bin too. Ginger grows back from the root though right? Maybe?
That was a few days ago, now today I was sorting some things out and I came across a sad looking plant I forgot about. I forget what it's called... has frilly like leaves and flowers.. yeah one of them... anyway it's been looking shit for a while and not getting better... then I remembered the wierd symptoms on other plants I've found had mites (yellowing, drooping, stunted growth) and yeah- it had them too. I chucked the whole thing out with all the soil too.

At this rate, i'm probably going to throw away all my thin leaved garden plants. I've pitched 2 pots of mint, a flowering ginger plant and the other plant I don't know the name of...
 

dl290485

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I only started seeing them in the last 6 months or so.
I don't know if I carried the mites from the last house to here on plants... or if I got infected by the mint plants (given to me by mother in law).... heck even come to think of it, maybe the mites came into my possession after buying the ginger plants off someone on facebook.... so just of this moment i'm starting to think I'll have to be really careful about what plants I buy and accept from people- do like a customs/quarantine job to keep foreign bugs out of my country :D
 
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