bacillus subtilis - can you simply use the "probiotics" you find when searching for?

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NewGrower2011

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I was reading up on Hydroguard and found that it's active bennie was different from the 'common' one which they identified as bacillus subtilis being what was in typical competing products.

When I searched for other products containing bacillus subtilis to do a comparison, Amazon turned up tons of health products - probiotics - which are capsules with dry powdered contents.

Can you simply crack open one of these caps and mix in with your nutes as a valid source of bacillus subtilis for use in soil or hydro?

Also, anyone know a source of Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens in dry form? I hate buying products which are just overglorified jugs of water with something added at a very low concentration...
 
calliandra

calliandra

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NewGrower2011 said:
Can you simply crack open one of these caps and mix in with your nutes as a valid source of bacillus subtilis for use in soil or hydro?
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From a commonsensical point of view, given that we are covered in the same microbes (or should be) as those of a thriving living soil, that shouldn't be the problem.

What I find questionable is the approach of adding a single kind of microbe. That is not going to guarantee the robust vitality of your plant. For that, it would be more sensible to be going for maximum balanced diversity in healthy aerated conditions. :bigjoint:
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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unconventional farmer has recipes for making bokashi, BIM, and a couple other things but yea lacto is the basis, and a great great place to start, and easy and wayyy cheaper, as brother @DonBrennon has kindly shared
 
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Trichometry101

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Just spray milk on your crop like the dispensaries do lol. Just kidding.

Arizona dispensary growers: "sulfur, sulfate, same shit. Hey go to the shampoo Isle and get some neem while we're at Walmart buying miracle grope"
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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NewGrower2011 said:
I was reading up on Hydroguard and found that it's active bennie was different from the 'common' one which they identified as bacillus subtilis being what was in typical competing products.

When I searched for other products containing bacillus subtilis to do a comparison, Amazon turned up tons of health products - probiotics - which are capsules with dry powdered contents.

Can you simply crack open one of these caps and mix in with your nutes as a valid source of bacillus subtilis for use in soil or hydro?

Also, anyone know a source of Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens in dry form? I hate buying products which are just overglorified jugs of water with something added at a very low concentration...
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Just get a bag of mykos , that hydroguard is just watered down over priced microbes , get the dry form you'll save a fortune and get way more.
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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So iv read the articles on making it with rice water, the llactobacillus concentrate. But couldnt one just use a tub of yogurt that has live and active cultures to start step two of mixing it with milk. ? As they are usually lactobacillus...
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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Huckster79 said:
So iv read the articles on making it with rice water, the llactobacillus concentrate. But couldnt one just use a tub of yogurt that has live and active cultures to start step two of mixing it with milk. ? As they are usually lactobacillus...
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Try it, let us know, mate! I haven't tried it yet but I have heard of people who mix yogurt in their soil.. some brands will list the exact forms of bacteria too.
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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I know this is super cheap to make but just out of curiousity is there any commercially availabe lacto bacillus soil conditioners?
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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No go on the yogurt, just turned the whole quart jar into a giant tub of yogurt... got starchy water out now to do it way others have
 
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