Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

Update:
Flowering: Day 12
Temps: 80F
PPM's: 1100
Res Temp: 78F
PH: 6.0

OK. The new plant is doing well. I have never personally seen a plant flower so fast. I have buds forming, not just a couple of pisltils since day 8 for 12/12. I credit the 1.5 month veg time for this since the clone I sexed of my mango took 3 weeks to show pistils. There is a slight nutrient burn showing on the tips of the leaves, but nothing I'm to concerned with. This was from switching the plant from a faily light ved ppm of 600 to a full strenght flower ppm of 1200. I expect it to fade off as the flowering continues. If it doesnt, I will lower the ppms closer to 1000. The spider mites are still making their presencre know and I will be sparying again today. Little bastards are hard to get rid of, but I have successfully removed them from my Piss clone and will be cutting clones to regrow my mothers today and save myself the headache of trying to treat full size plants. These new mite free clones will be moved to my new veg room. More pics of that later today. It is still not done since I am wating on a 400w MH to put in there for the mothers once they mature, but it is fully ready for them at this point. Once this Mango finishes I will be tearing down the whole flowering room and reconfiguring it for 2 of my screen setups with a bleach wipe down and bug bomb preceeding that. Not a huge pic update since there isnt to much to look at yet, but more as the situation changes.

Really looking outstanding man.

Bummer 'bout the borg.
I eyelooped some leaves last night and was surprised to find I wasn't rid of my arachni-reapers either.

I think I'm gonna take a clue from you and reveg some clones from this grow. (3rd wk flwr) and start over.
Question for ya':
I have one strain, Mendoberry,(Sativa prominent) that seems to either attract or has less resistance to, the mites.
They're just riddled with damage.(hmm... maybe introduced on these) AND their on opposite sides of the grow. While the other strains have very limited or no damage and only a few jerks around.
Have you ever noticed anything like that?

Thanks for the update, man!

McFunk

Mites have Ideal conditions for breeding which are low humidity, and around an 80f temp. They also dislike wind and water. So all of these factors can affect how heavily they're concentrated. Usually plants with the least air circulation get the worst damage. Another helpful hint is to soak a rag or sponge with whatever mite control you are using and use it to physically wipe each and every leaf on the plant. this can take time but is well worth it. And since you dont want to spray any buds with anything since it has a high rate of leading to bud mold, it is the only option when flowering. It works better than spraying alone because you apply the miticide and at the same time wipe eggs and mites off of the plants themselves which does nothing but help in your battle against them. Hope this helps.

McFunk said:

Really looking outstanding man.

Bummer 'bout the borg.
I eyelooped some leaves last night and was surprised to find I wasn't rid of my arachni-reapers either.

I think I'm gonna take a clue from you and reveg some clones from this grow. (3rd wk flwr) and start over.
Question for ya':
I have one strain, Mendoberry,(Sativa prominent) that seems to either attract or has less resistance to, the mites.
They're just riddled with damage.(hmm... maybe introduced on these) AND their on opposite sides of the grow. While the other strains have very limited or no damage and only a few jerks around.
Have you ever noticed anything like that?

Thanks for the update, man!

McFunk

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McFunk, can't speak from experience, but breeders certainly claim that some strains are more mite resistant then others - NL #5 comes to mind, and I'm sure there are others.

Obviously, the hardier and healthier a plant is, the more mites it can tolerate, so that's clearly a factor as well.

EDIT: Check out this link for more info.........

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/38010-spider-mite-resistant-breeds.html

Integra21 said:

Mites have Ideal conditions for breeding which are low humidity, and around an 80f temp. They also dislike wind and water. So all of these factors can affect how heavily they're concentrated. Usually plants with the least air circulation get the worst damage. Another helpful hint is to soak a rag or sponge with whatever mite control you are using and use it to physically wipe each and every leaf on the plant. this can take time but is well worth it. And since you dont want to spray any buds with anything since it has a high rate of leading to bud mold, it is the only option when flowering. It works better than spraying alone because you apply the miticide and at the same time wipe eggs and mites off of the plants themselves which does nothing but help in your battle against them. Hope this helps.

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Firstly, welcome back buddy - glad to hear that your trip went well and you were well-stocked while down there

Now, are you and Twils living together or are you two trading clones? Seems weird that you both got mites within days of each other..........but in all seriousness, that sucks dude

Last thing - another indirect benefit of heavy CO2 enrichment is that mites/insects/etc. have a hard time living in that environment - I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a fairly big reason for me going that route.

Fucking hate bugs.

Thanks, Integra.
I think that'll be the plan for tonite.

Bob Smith,
Thanks for the info!

Bob Smith said:

Firstly, welcome back buddy - glad to hear that your trip went well and you were well-stocked while down there

Now, are you and Twils living together or are you two trading clones? Seems weird that you both got mites within days of each other..........but in all seriousness, that sucks dude

Last thing - another indirect benefit of heavy CO2 enrichment is that mites/insects/etc. have a hard time living in that environment - I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a fairly big reason for me going that route.

Fucking hate bugs.

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I have actually had spider mites for about a month and been fighting them like crazy. It was documented in the journal, but I understand there is usually a lot to read so missing things is typical.

My apologies man - just learned how to "subscribe" to threads (I'm an idiot, I know) a couple of days ago, so I've definitely been missing some stuff along the way.

Dont worry about it, there are several things that could be done better as far as site layout and operation. My original Journal on TheGrowery.org has a much better layout where anywhere you post in is automatically subscribed and when you go to that thread, it automatically brings you to the new post without having to figure out that buttons existance as well. They also let you upload full size images, which is great for bud porn close ups. This and InternationalCannagraphic are actually the worst layouts I have seen for sites as far as ease of use and user control, but have the best content. So you cant have it all. If your interested in checking out that site, I can send you a link. It is a much smaller community but they are looking to grow.

I blame my spider mites on those nasty women standing on the corner... wait never mind that's crabs!


In all seriousness, looking good there Integra, that Mango(?) is a beast!

Burn on!

Yeah, Its B.C. Mango. It grows the tallest out of all my strains and is supposed to be a much better outdoor strain, but we'll see how it does in my setup. This is also my first fruit flavored strain, so I'm curious to see how it tastes and smells and also what I can get in weight from a single larger plant instead of several small ones. If this goes well, I will probly do 3 or 4 larger plants on the next run. Stay tuned to see how she progresses. I'm just wondering when my luck is going to run out with seeds. So far I have germinated 9 seeds(3fem,3bag, 3non-fem) and ended up with 100% females. I was actually hoping for a male to try some breeding with. I guess I'll just have to put that on the back burner until I'm lucky enough to get a male(I know that statement sounds retarded)

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Update: Day 21(week 3)
PH:5.92
PPM:1050
Res Temp: 77F
Rm Temp: 79F
Humidity: 48%

Things are coming along well. It appears I have a slight N deficiency as well as Cal. I have added more to the nutrients when I changed the tub today. This is still the fastest I've ever seen my girls flower. This is usually what they look like at 5 weeks. I also added a 26w 10.0 UVB bulb above one section of the plant. I am hoping to see a noticeable increase in trichome production in this area. I have pretty high hopes since all high uv grows I've seen look frosty as hell. I cut a bunch of clones last night to re-grow my mothers in a spider mite free environment since it is too hard to try to get rid of them on full sized plants. I will try to put pics up of the new veg room tomorrow. Its still missing the 400w for my mothers when they're bigger, but hopefully I'll get that soon. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to leave them. Now...on with the bud porn!

Lookin' great, Integra!

Can't wait to see how far along ya' are NEXT week, man!

P.S. I'm stealing your whole PVC SCRoG screen frame idea. It'll work perfect for what's in my head.

LOVE
McFunk

McFunk said:

Lookin' great, Integra!

Can't wait to see how far along ya' are NEXT week, man!

P.S. I'm stealing your whole PVC SCRoG screen frame idea. It'll work perfect for what's in my head.

LOVE
McFunk

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Cool. Its about as cheap and easy as it gets. If you plan on doing a lot of work with pvc, a pcv cutter works wonders. no mess and the work like siscors. Hows your new cabinet coming along?

Integra21 said:

Cool. Its about as cheap and easy as it gets. If you plan on doing a lot of work with pvc, a pcv cutter works wonders. no mess and the work like siscors.

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...and light, too! I'm planning to give each plant(or row of 3)it's own screen now. Drill holes to string it w/fat clothesline and eventually plumb Co2 through the holes in the screen.
Who know's maybe it'll actually work

Integra21 said:

Hows your new cabinet coming along?

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Not much actual physical progress. Made a couple proto 4x4 3~plant aero boxes yesterday to scale it together. Can't decide on a couple technicalities but getting closer, at least in plan. Ha! I still have to build a cloner. But that's all labor no brains thanks to abundant RIU experiences shared.


...I'll update my journal with plans sometime today man!

LOVE
McFunk

McFunk said:

...and light, too! I'm planning to give each plant(or row of 3)it's own screen now. Drill holes to string it w/fat clothesline and eventually plumb Co2 through the holes in the screen.
Who know's maybe it'll actually work


Not much actual physical progress. Made a couple proto 4x4 3~plant aero boxes yesterday to scale it together. Can't decide on a couple technicalities but getting closer, at least in plan. Ha! I still have to build a cloner. But that's all labor no brains thanks to abundant RIU experiences shared.

...I'll update my journal with plans sometime today man!

LOVE
McFunk

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Cool. Yeah, the light part is nice to. As far as Piping the co2 into the frame, I had the same thought for mine, but with a little of research I decided it was better to run it into the fan circulating in the room since co2 is heavier than air and it would be coming out at the very bottom of your buds and dropping to the floor. Better to feed it to a fan or above the plants in a seperate frame.

Integra21 said:

Cool. Yeah, the light part is nice to. As far as Piping the co2 into the frame, I had the same thought for mine, but with a little of research I decided it was better to run it into the fan circulating in the room since co2 is heavier than air and it would be coming out at the very bottom of your buds and dropping to the floor. Better to feed it to a fan or above the plants in a seperate frame.

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That makes perfect sense.
I'm in rethink mode.

Thanks!

Looking good Integra! Nice little flowers you got there!

Looks like that mango is filling that screen up nicely

Keep up the good work my friend!

Burn on!

I have to say, although this is the fastest I've ever seen a plant flower, it is also the least I've ever seen one stretch. I thought since it was over 3ft tall when I put it in, it was going to turn into a monster, and it didn't at all. Maybe an inch or 2 of stretch on a 3ft plant. Isn't that Kinda weird. Here the first shot is day one 12/12, and the next is day 21. Is there even any noticable growth from flower(strech wise)