Barney's Farm Tangerine Dream Ebb & Flow MicroGarden Grow T5 New Wave Lights

Thanks for stopping in. This thread is dedicated to the Barney's Farm (BF) Tangerine Dream (TD) strain. Please do not use this grow journal as a place to vent about BF or TD. Everyone has heard or read the stories that are going around about this strain; let's not rehash them here. If you do not know what I'm referring to, good, that means that you can view this grow without any pre-conceived conclusions, as will I.

Everyone is invited to share their own personal experience with TD if they are currently growing it or have in the recent past. Please feel free to ask questions, make suggestions, jokes, observations, whatever. Just please keep it civil and pull up a seat, because it is going to be a long grow.

DAY 1


The seeds were previously acquired from Attitude Seeds. The cost for the seeds was in the neighborhood of $60 and one of the freebies was a G13 Pineapple Express; the 10% off 420 coupon code helped as well. I was really excited at the time I bought the seeds, as I love citrus fruits. I love tropical flavors as well. The description was so mouth watering for these seeds, that I could literally smell the oils from the tangerine, as they sprayed from its tearing skin.

I decided to go with Rockwool this time, as peat pellets have been giving me issues lately, and, these will be growing in hydroton, in an ebb and flow MicroGarden. I pre-soaked the cubes in distilled water, PH'ed to 4.0. This is to counter the extremely high PH that new Rockwool has. I used about a quart of water and poured it into my handy-dandy propagation tray. The tray is on a towel, which is resting on a germination heating pad.

I poured a jigger of distilled water into a shot glass and then deposited the seeds. Only one seed took to the bottom like a true champion diver, the remaining four seeds clung to the side, floating , as if they couldn't swim and were holding on to the edge of the pool. I playfully pushed them into the center, using my 5ml plastic pipette, coaxing them to let out their breath and sink like a stone. Eventually, one of them gained enough weight to sink.

I placed the Jigger on the warm towel in my nursery and covered it with 4 stacked solo cups, to keep the light out. My nursery is strictly CFL and T8, and T5s that stay on 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I'm waiting for the Microgarden to show up, so I can get it ready for some TD ladies. I also have an RO unit ordered so I can quit lugging 15 gallons of distilled water home every week from the grocery stores. I currently have two monster Bubblelicious plants scrogging in my flowering tent that drink almost 3 gallons a day between them. The link to that grow is in my sig if anyone is interested.

Until next update....

sounds fucking good bro...... im in for the ride. and i have no idea what you are talking about BF or TD and i could care less if its negative since ive grown barneys seeds plenty of times without any problems whatsoever. so far this sounds like an interesting project you will be having.... good luck bro with everything and i hope your grow goes smooth and easy....

Pulling up my chair.



-GNS

I now have 4 seeds on the bottom of the pool... Hi GrowNSmoke and Bestbuds09... I'm honored to have both of you here.

Weirdest thing happened a few moments ago. I lifted the cups to peek and I saw 2 of the seeds falling as I did.... Did the light do it? Did they both happen to take a dive together? It was a weird moment... I had to actually think, 'Did I just see that!?"

Hi Serapis - I've just started a couple of BF TD seeds - not germinated yet, it will be good to follow your thread while growing plants that are the same age ... although mine won't be flowering for a long time yet.

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

Hi Serapis - I've just started a couple of BF TD seeds - not germinated yet, it will be good to follow your thread while growing plants that are the same age ... although mine won't be flowering for a long time yet.

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Hi-ya buddy!! It is going to be awesome following two BF TD grows together. Please feel free to share some pics with us if you don't intend to journal the grow. I have heard sooo many things about this strain, both good and bad and decided to find out for myself. I love oranges!!

All 5 seeds were floating this morning. I thought I saw a root tail coming out, but upon a closer view, it was just a tiny air bubble on that end of the seed. I have NEVER germinated this way before. Soaking seeds is alien to me. I do have the jigger on a towel over a seedling heat map, so the water is tepid, not hot, not cold. It's going on 20 hours now, I hope to see some action here soon. I know I shouldn't leave the seeds in the water much longer than 24 hours. I have tepid grodan cubes in PH 4.0 water ready to go the minute the ER is called into action for transplants.


I'm happy to see all 5 sink. That indicates that all 5 are indeed viable seeds. If a floater refuses to sink, chances are the seed is old and needs to soak for a few days, OR, it has air in it and the embryo was dried out, killing it and causing the floater to never sink. If you paid a good deal for the seed, by all means, stil attempt to germ it, but your chances are probably 9:1 against you, maybe even higher. Any statisticians reading along? LOL...


As soon I can, I'll do a transplant and photograph the steps and share with you guys and gals. this is after all a non-gender hobby that has seen a great influx of female growers in the past 10 years. I'm glad to have them with us. Having our wives, partners, loved ones, etc share our grows and spend time in the garden with us... WTF!? NOT MY GARDEN... LOL... I prefer to garden alone.

OK everyone, remember, this thread is all about good karma and fun times. I have no expectations of this grow. Whatever the outcome, it is what it is. Let's have fun. Let's try some different shit. Hell, one or two of these may become outside plants. I live in a tropical locale. Here it is not even Valentines Day yet and we are in the 60's today. I wonder how big one of these can get? Wouldn't it be neat to grow one like a tree?

We'll see. For the first 6 weeks at least, these babies will be living in the nursery, under a new. New Wave T5 4 bulb unit. I have never thought I would be a FL user or rely on them much, but my nursery has had great results raising seedlings with them. Last grow, I had to veg under T8's for 3 weeks while waiting space in my flowering tent. The growth rate was not bad. The T5 unit will hang from a 2' ventilated shelf that I use for my nutrients, additives, testers, etc. I'll hang the light, and then line shelf with panda poly to prevent anything from dripping on my unit. The New Wave units allow you to mix bulb spectrums, 6500k working side by side with 3000k. The 6 and 8 bulb units have dual on off controls to allow you to run just the 3000k or the 6500k, or just to reduce ovrall lumen, as if for rootings or seedlings.


OK, back to the seeds.... I'm taking bets, winner gets +REP.... How many of these seeds will germinate? One guess per reader....

MORE to come.....

STAy tUNED

I'm going to say 6 out of those 5 will germ. Wait, what?
Pullin' up a chair cuz I got a few of them TDs myself. Tried to germ 2, 1 made it but is not looking too good.

JimBro said:

I'm going to say 6 out of those 5 will germ. Wait, what?
Pullin' up a chair cuz I got a few of them TDs myself. Tried to germ 2, 1 made it but is not looking too good.

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I'm putting you down for 5 Jimbro... I hope you are correct sir.... Maybe we need a tie breaker..... Nah, everyone that is right will get rep..

I'll go for 4 out of the 5 - one failure is permissable.

I'm using the paper towel method for once (usually just plant direct in jiffy pellet).
Yesterday morning my single TD seed hadn't germinated so I added a second seed, by the evening the first seed had a small root showing and now it is about a quarter of an inch long, so I hopefully will soon have a plant to play with.
If the second seed pops, it will be vegged then put outside and be ready to smoke sooner than my ScrOG.
I won't be in a position to flower the ScrOG for about 12 weeks so I have plenty of time to take clones, use for grafting etc and get my ScrOG set up for flowering.
I've got a mother with Red Dragon and L.S.D. growing on it and will add a graft of Tangerine Dream asap.

Subscribed. I'm in the for the ride and excited to see how it goes! Quick question sorry if it's already been answered or you already mentioned it, but you'll be using the waterfarm like your last grow yeah?

OK GOD, I have you down for four. As of right now, all 5 seeds are heavy. I changed out the water with clean tepid distilled, as I don't like cloudy water. We have 0 germination as of right this minute. The seeds have been soaking now for going on 40 hours. They look bigger than they were when I first put tehm in, as if they have swollen, just waiting for them to crack. I could have waited to two days before soaking the Grodan cubes... Nothing to update at this time..

Grumpy Old Dreamer said:

I'll go for 4 out of the 5 - one failure is permissable.

I'm using the paper towel method for once (usually just plant direct in jiffy pellet).
Yesterday morning my single TD seed hadn't germinated so I added a second seed, by the evening the first seed had a small root showing and now it is about a quarter of an inch long, so I hopefully will soon have a plant to play with.
If the second seed pops, it will be vegged then put outside and be ready to smoke sooner than my ScrOG.
I won't be in a position to flower the ScrOG for about 12 weeks so I have plenty of time to take clones, use for grafting etc and get my ScrOG set up for flowering.
I've got a mother with Red Dragon and L.S.D. growing on it and will add a graft of Tangerine Dream asap.

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WakethBaketh said:

Subscribed. I'm in the for the ride and excited to see how it goes! Quick question sorry if it's already been answered or you already mentioned it, but you'll be using the waterfarm like your last grow yeah?

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No, this will be an ebb and Flow grow, in a Bontanicare MicroGarden, that will be here next week. Depending on the grow, one might end up in a waterfarm, as my clones are struggling. They either weren't getting nutrients in the aero set up, or you really have to crank the nute rates up in aero, cause they weren't getting food yet had some good roots. The plants continued to eat off of their own leaves, turning them all yellow. I have 3 left, in a jiffy seedling mix, in solo cups that are reverse watering/feeding. Two of them seem to be recovering already, the other is critical, prognosis not good.

My intention is to grow all 5 in a MicroGarden until flowering. At that point, I haven't decided whether to finish them off outside or in. We'll see. One may very well graduate to the farm.

Serapis said:

No, this will be an ebb and Flow grow, in a Bontanicare MicroGarden, that will be here next week. Depending on the grow, one might end up in a waterfarm, as my clones are struggling. They either weren't getting nutrients in the aero set up, or you really have to crank the nute rates up in aero, cause they weren't getting food yet had some good roots. The plants continued to eat off of their own leaves, turning them all yellow. I have 3 left, in a jiffy seedling mix, in solo cups that are reverse watering/feeding. Two of them seem to be recovering already, the other is critical, prognosis not good.

My intention is to grow all 5 in a MicroGarden until flowering. At that point, I haven't decided whether to finish them off outside or in. We'll see. One may very well graduate to the farm.

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Thanks for the speedy reply. Interested how the ebb and flow works out for you and sorry to hear about your clones and I've heard good things about tangerine dream but haven't read enough to know what all the complaints are. Good luck man and I know with your knowledge you'll have a kick ass harvest!

I wish knowledge was the only contributing factor.... but thanks for the wishes!!... 3 out of 5 clones ain't bad, considering I took them in flower AND the two that didn't root had stems that were kinda woody, from near the top. It was just a test of if a fogger could cause cuttings to root by itself and it indeed can. 3 of them may still come through...

WakethBaketh said:

Thanks for the speedy reply. Interested how the ebb and flow works out for you and sorry to hear about your clones and I've heard good things about tangerine dream but haven't read enough to know what all the complaints are. Good luck man and I know with your knowledge you'll have a kick ass harvest!

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UPDATE::

I'm keeping a close eye on the seeds today. It appears as if one has cracked but I do not see the tap root yet. I'm thinking soon....

i just ordered 5 tangerine dreams from barny's farm and 5 ak47 x jack herer from sensi seeds...i wont be starting them for about 2 months but i will for sure be keeping everyone updated when i do...im going with a DWC as my method... cant wait till then....now im working on my very 1st grow...i was in amsterdam this summer and went to green house seed co and picked up some himalayan gold and arjan's strawberry haze seeds. i got 2 himalaya golds going now and they are doing really well for my 1st grow with a few hiccups. here are a few pics of my 3x3x8.5 closet grow...im using AN Connoisseur, AN Big Bud, AN Bud Candy, Botanicare Sweet Berry Carbo, & Emerald Triangle Snow Storm Ultra... in the 4 gal res for each plant im Running 10ml of each A&B of the Connoisseur, 6ML of each B.B., B.C., & Sweet Berry, & 2.5ML of Snow Storm in 1qrt spray bottle...these plants can suck up the nutes let me tell ya....
Combat Veterans for Cannabis - Recon!!!

Hi C4C!

Please do me a favor buddy, and keep any pictures you'd like to share with us in this thread related to BF TD please. I certainly appreciate your enthusiasm in wanting to share your grow, but that would be best done in your own thread, then you could receive feedback and stuff. Some people consider what you have done in your post as 'hijacking' a thread. If you see this and don't mind, please edit the post to remove the 13 or so photos.

I appreciate your understanding and hope you'll stay with us as we grow TD.

sorry guy, yeah i am a lil excited. i fixed the post and i see what your saying. ive been smoking for 18 yrs and im 32. besides 6yrs in the army. and this is my 1st grow so yeah i feel free for once and excited... so i apologize for "hijacking your thread" not my intention...good luck with your grow and +rep!!!
Combat Veterans for Cannabis

You are awesome! Thanks for serving and welcome back to civy life. Glad to have you here on RIU!!