Bat guano

Hey guys im thinking about using bat guano as a top dressing for when my plant is in full out flowering. I cant buy any where I live, so ill have to order some off ebay. So far I found Jamacian, Indonesian, and Mexican. The Mexican is high in nitrogen, so I will not use that. The Jamacian is 1-10-.2 and the Indonesian is .5-12-.2 I think ill use the Indonesian bat guano, but doesnt is seem a bit low in potassium? Should I add something else for a bit more potassium?

i use the mexican for vegging and the indonesian for flower, i would use the guano as directed for flowering which is mixing with water, 1 tablespoon per gallon of water, you can add more if your plants need it but start out minimal. with only guano i have seen awesome buds so its not necessary to up the potassium.

this is my guano i use. bought at hydro store.

Alright so ive been looking around and it looks like it isnt a great idea to add the guano as a top dressing now, prob would have been a good idea to mix into the soil, then trasnplant my baby into that soil. So it looks like ill be using the guano in my compost tea, thanks.

no prob. good luck

guanos are great

Dude you can use it any way you like, on the top of the soil wouldn't be too effective by now. The best way to use your guano, or most of your nutrients for that matter is to brew it into a tea. You take a bucket of some kind, right now I'm using a rubbermaid rough neck but a 5 gallon will work great. To make the tea you need an aquarium pump, a hose, and an air stone. Simply fill the bucket with water and let the air stones bubble for an hour to get the chlorine out of it. Then you simply add your guano and at least a tablespoon of molasses, you can add what ever you want. Currently I make a tea with the following, A handful of worm castings, some molasses, liquid seaweed, humic acid, floralicious plus, and some Roots Organics Oregonism XL Mycorrhiaze

Histoplasmosis in Bat Guano

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I just heard about this on Billy the Exterminator....not a panic issue, but good to keep out of reach of kids and pets and yourself...Bags of Bat Guano....

http://www.getbatsout.com/histoplasmosis.htm

Is Guano (Bat Droppings) Dangerous?



Ask nearly anyone, and you'll hear that bats (although beneficial in insect control) can be dangerous because they carry rabies. But a lesser known danger, and one that is not as easy to avoid, is histoplasmosis.
What is histoplasmosis?
It is an infectious disease caught by inhaling the spores of the histoplasmosis capsulation fungus. While it is not contagious, the disease can affect a wide variety of the population who may not even be aware they are at risk.

Should I be concerned about getting histoplasmosis?
Anyone can get histoplasmosis. There are, however, certain people whose occupations make the risk of exposure greater than others. Included in that group are chimney cleaners, construction workers, gardeners, HVAC installers or repair people, roofers, and, of course spelunkers (cave explorers). In reality, however, anyone who comes across the fungus can get histoplasmosis.

But I’ve never touched or been bitten by a bat. So how could I get it?
It's easier than you might think. Bats become infected with histoplasmosis, and their feces contain the histoplasmosis fungus. This fungus grows in the soil where the droppings land, or in the droppings found in an attic occupied by bats. The fungus then continues to grow, just waiting for you or me to come along to clean out the old barn, the attic, or other place where the spores now lie.
Or sometimes, we disturb the dirt (cleaning up the garden, sweeping out the empty building, or doing other seemingly harmless dirty work), causing the spores to become airborne. When we breathe that air, we then become infected with the histoplasmosis fungus and the real trouble begins.

I don’t do that kind of work. I shouldn’t have to worry about that, right?
Not really. In fact, in 1970, several hundred middle school students developed histoplasmosis, simply because they breathed the spores through their school ventilation system over the few days following a "clean up" of the school's courtyard as an Earth Day project. Even those children who were not present at the clean up were exposed to the spores over the next few days and came down with histoplasmosis. It was later determined that the spores were spread through the school’s ventilation system.
And there are cases where people have been exposed when working in a city near construction sites where soil containing the histoplasmosis spores was disturbed when the site was excavated. The spores became airborne, and the office workers then breathed the spores through their office ventilation system. Anyone can get histoplasmosis.

How do I know if I have it?
The disease first affects the lungs, and often those with the disease have no or very mild symptoms within the first few days. On an average, around 10 days after exposure, many sufferers complain of flu-like symptoms: fever, chest pain, loss of appetite, dry cough, headache, shortness of breath, impaired vision, and possibly joint and muscle pains. Because of the vague symptoms, you may have been exposed to the disease and not know it.
In many cases, the disease may run its course, and you will think you’ve simply had a case of the flu. Some cases, however, are more serious, leading to long-term illness, often resembling tuberculosis in nature. And some cases, if not treated, are fatal.
If you have a weakened immune system (are undergoing chemotherapy, have AIDS, etc.) or are a heavy smoker, you may be more susceptible to getting histoplasmosis. And if you’ve had it in the past, you are subject to a re-infection or reactivation of the disease after another exposure. This is especially true for the elderly, those with compromised immune systems, and the very young.

there is more on the link...

http://www.jamaicancaves.org/jamaican_bat_guano.htm

has anyone made a link with too much potassium and throat burn??

well that histo thing is really fucking scaring the shit outta me right now. use jamaican bat guano, used it on my first run, use just 1gallon water jugs, adjust my ph and then use nylon and add couple tablespoons tops per gallon, tie a not in the nylon and hang it in the jug and put cap on so it doesn't fall in, leave it for a few hours or up to a day and then squeeze out the mush repeatedly so it's basically all liquified and dissolved, then turn the nylon inside out and rinse it out. had awesome killer buds, you can check my posts for pics. who else uses bat guano, anyone got sick from it? goddamn thats fucked up. i use seabird guano for veg, what other options do i have for flower if not bat? can any decomposed shit really be good for you anyways, breathing the dust that comes off when you open the bag and make your tea bags. shit is shit neway you look at it but this freaks me out.

V 8 ENGINES said:

has anyone made a link with too much potassium and throat burn??

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You can always over do it with the quano lol.. the throat burn maybe the cold symptoms .. I would really recommend staying away from all animal shit when dealing with soil. For one there is absolutely NO REASON for it ,your plants will grow just fine with out it.. If you want to look for somthing special look for the strain not animal shit.. peace out Headband707

trenhed said:

well that histo thing is really fucking scaring the shit outta me right now. use jamaican bat guano, used it on my first run, use just 1gallon water jugs, adjust my ph and then use nylon and add couple tablespoons tops per gallon, tie a not in the nylon and hang it in the jug and put cap on so it doesn't fall in, leave it for a few hours or up to a day and then squeeze out the mush repeatedly so it's basically all liquified and dissolved, then turn the nylon inside out and rinse it out. had awesome killer buds, you can check my posts for pics. who else uses bat guano, anyone got sick from it? goddamn thats fucked up. i use seabird guano for veg, what other options do i have for flower if not bat? can any decomposed shit really be good for you anyways, breathing the dust that comes off when you open the bag and make your tea bags. shit is shit neway you look at it but this freaks me out.

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Yeah I guess these guys got sick from getting bud from Jamacia that had bird shit in it too not sure the whole story but the clubs in Cali made a BIG DEAL about it .. Thats when all the shit went down about testing the bud as bird shit is even worse LOL LOL LOL.. peace out Headband707

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Alright so ive been looking around and it looks like it isnt a great idea to add the guano as a top dressing now, prob would have been a good idea to mix into the soil, then trasnplant my baby into that soil. So it looks like ill be using the guano in my compost tea, thanks.

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Thats the way i do it. Its the best way i've found. I use Jamaican and Mexican. Jamaican only for flowering.

I have found my quest for the overall best method imo for one nut. the entire grow. Peruvian seabird guano 10-10-2. Find a better overall plant food by the numbers? That is all I use and the buds are huge and perfect. From experience, take a sharpe medium size/thick pen and mark 3 inchs on the pen. Poke a hole in triangle 3 areas/3 inchs deep around the plant. Take a huge pinch of the peruvian seabird guano for each hole. pack the hole with dirt. Water as normal. The nature moist soil will slowly desolve the guano pellets so it's not stressed from nut. shock. I prefer a med. size sharpe which is a tiny bit thicker then a pen. Guano pellets are easy to work with. Using fresh FFOF give the plant new guano monthly after the first month. The last month/4 weeks from chop use half pinch of guano.

Reusing soil....Take your used soil (It should be leached/flushed) and add a big tablespoon of guano as well as lime (tablespoon) for every gallon of soil. You won't know much if any difference in using new ffof.

Bird Poo Spreading Toxic Pollutants
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Mother Nature herself may be implicated in a worrying rise in levels of DDT and mercury in otherwise pristine Canadian ecosystems. A new study suggests that the culprits are seabirds that transport and deliver the contaminants in their poo. Surprisingly, the researchers found that the seabirds were responsible for transporting most of the human-made contaminants to some coastal ecosystems. "The effect is to elevate concentrations of pollutants such as mercury and DDT to as much as 60 times that of areas not influenced by seabird populations," said researcher John Smol, from Queen's University.
The study, appearing in Science, noted that contaminants washed into the ocean did not, as was believed, cease to affect terrestrial ecosystems. "Our study shows that sea birds, which feed in the ocean but then come back to land, are returning not only with food for their young but with contaminants as well. The contaminants accumulate in their bodies and are released on land," said study leader Jules Blais. "We now have evidence that seabirds can concentrate industrial contaminants in coastal areas to levels that can be affecting those ecosystems."
Because of the chemical build up in the food web, the researchers said that some communities in northern Canada are among the most mercury and PCB-exposed people on the globe. Adding to the concern is the fact that Canada has the longest coastline in the world and seabirds are typically the dominant wildlife found in coastal ecosystems. "Most of Canada's coastline is at our northern fringe, and northern aboriginal communities rely on these ecosystems as a source of nutrition, economic development, traditional customs, and culture," noted Blais.
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I do realize this post is a couple years old but poop man headband is a little parinoid.I have used poop of all forms to grow a range of vegitables as well as mj.Hell when me and my brother were kids we used to throw cow shit at each other,never got sick.My mom mixed cow shit,horse shit into our garden every year,still never got sick.maybe 1 or 2 people out of 1,000,000 got sick,but definatley not cause to scare the shit out of everybody(by the way you cant grow with that shit lol)Yes there probably is a danger of getting sick playing with any kind of shit,but i would have to say it would have to be an indavidual with a weakened immune system or other immune system problems.Too many people for too many years have used this time tested way of growing to have 1 poop hater ruin it for everybody
peace for the poop

We also eat GMO food crops this doesn't make it right lol... Poop is a bad way to fert your plants seeing as though you don't have to and poop is not going to make your strain any better lol infact your playing with shit and you end up getting sick from it and some ppl don't even know why they are sick. I would suggest you find a better way to fert your crops. Because we have done stupid things for many years doesn't make it right.. Your right I'm a poop hater and proud of it LOL headband 707

Headband.....I don't guess you have ever "rimmed" your partner..huh??