Thanks, I used it as a dip and cloned for four generations before I flowered. Unless I really wanted the genetics it would be a Viking funeral for my grow.Forbid4f mo better. 1ml/gal, still only spray in veg just to be safe. Although I'm super clean right now, I've never had buds that were tested show positive for the forbid after having sprayed in veg. Again, spraying only in veg.