best hallucinogen for a first timer?

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cyborgasm

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Hello all, I'm planning on trying something new this summer and I was wondering your thoughts are on what I should try. I'm looking mainly to enjoy myself and connect with the world a bit as I feel my way through a new experience. If I learn something about myself or my surroundings that's a bonus but not essential for this first time out. I'm in a pretty good place in life right now, but like anyone I have my demons and my weaknesses - but I'm confidently aware of them. So I'm a little anxious to try a hallucinogen but I feel ready nonetheless. I have tried salvia and it didn't scare me, but it was far too disorienting and short to learn anything from or enjoy.

I'd like to do it outside on a warm summer day. I'm uncertain as to whether I want to do it with someone else or by myself (though I'd certainly let a friend know where I was going and what I was up to.) So my question is what's the best choice for a trepidatious first timer who's ready to try a new substance? I'm particularly interested in LSD, shrooms, and mescaline, though if you have any other suggestions I'd be curious to hear them.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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Three questions as the top threads and two are questions for a first time hallucinogen....

There isn't a 'best'. Any of the three you mentioned would be great. Whatever you can get your hands on and is of good quality would be great.
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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^Agreed. There's no quintessential substance suited for virgins. But yes, first and foremost, discover what is available to you. Then decide. Don't get too hung up on which one it will be. They're all an experience to behold, with the right dosages. You can study other compounds next time if need be ;)
 
journo

journo

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I always started slow with anything new, i.e 10 quid pills, then half an acid, then a full, then 2 etc just pace yourself, chill out, try it first at home with the door closed, phone off and all sources of iritation and just enjoy where it takes you :) i recommend 1 tab of acid and a music collection of DnB and pink floyd
 
suave.sam

suave.sam

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I would say for your 1st trip acid would be an excellent choice. Definitely do it with a friend as you'll be bouncing ideas off each other, all adding to the experience, and there will be someone else with you who will be going through 'what your going through'. I'd say definatley do it outside for your 1st time, and in a place where your not going to bump into any strangers.
Everybody's different, but when I want to trip, I'll get my hiking gear 2 drops of acid each which I take with a couple hours in between each drop, and go wandering around the forest. Guarantees I'll have a good time anyway. I would avoid especially taking it inside anywhere for a first trip. But above all else have fun with it!
 
suave.sam

suave.sam

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I would say for your 1st trip acid would be an excellent choice. Definitely do it with a friend as you'll be bouncing ideas off each other, all adding to the experience, and there will be someone else with you who will be going through 'what your going through'. I'd say definatley do it outside for your 1st time, and in a place where your not going to bump into any strangers.
Everybody's different, but when I want to trip, I'll get my hiking gear 2 drops of acid each which I take with a couple hours in between each drop, and go wandering around the forest. Guarantees I'll have a good time anyway. I would avoid especially taking it inside anywhere for a first trip. But above all else have fun with it!
 
Puffer Fish

Puffer Fish

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There is many wise things in previous posts.
We all are trying to help you with very little
info.

1. Crypt and CANN know the deal, get the best in quality available (for your safety)

Then, depending on what it is ... research the perfect setting needed to enjoy the compound.
Let us know and help will be given.
U get it and we will tell you how to do it and not WIGG Out.
That is the way the Universe Unfolds.

:)

In contemplation, If I was to go back in time and Sell myself that first POTION.
(out of the three you have mentioned)
It would be LSD. As in my opinion the gradual Clime and the climax .... and after-glow
is so manageable. (Providing you have good supply that is)

As YOU seem to seek epiphany.

:)

Crypt ... if you could guide your past ... what would you sell yourself ?
CaNN ?
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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First off: www.erowid.org


Id say about 3 grams of cubenesis mushrooms for a first time... mushrooms are a great door to the psychadelic world... though I now prefer some good lucy (acid) to mushrooms... but I'm way glad I started with shrooms.

With the shrooms you learn a LOT about yourself, and just tripping in general.. lots of smart people here to listen to ;)
 
swishsweet

swishsweet

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I would say eat less than 3gs of shrooms for a first timer. I tried 3.5 gs my first time and it was like being full throttled into a kaleidoscopic groovy trip but a little too intense for my virgin mind. Eat a half eighth and see if you are trippin!
 
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Michael Phelps

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Sr. Verde said:
First off: www.erowid.org


Id say about 3 grams of cubenesis mushrooms for a first time... mushrooms are a great door to the psychadelic world... though I now prefer some good lucy (acid) to mushrooms... but I'm way glad I started with shrooms.

With the shrooms you learn a LOT about yourself, and just tripping in general.. lots of smart people here to listen to ;)
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Fuck man 3 grams? Ive never eaten more then 2 gram's of shroom's and it was way to intense for my liking..



Really like crypt and cannuk said, shrooms, lsd, mescaline, are all going to be a different experience but anyone will be very satisfying for you.

Id recommend

Lsd: 1 tab
Mushrooms: 1.5-2.0 grams
Mescaline: Not really sure, havnt eaten it yet myself. I believe a good solid dose is 250-300 milligrams
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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My first shroom trip... I went with friends to a waterpark in the summer

I ate 2 grams of shrooms... shit was pretty intense, but I was walking around the park, standing in lines with kids & parents, sitting in the top of the slide waiting to go... laughing my ass off.

If he's going to chill at home I'd say 3 to trip balls. Two grams if your going somewhere and need to function.




But then again, it depends on the kind of person you are - and how strong/fresh your shrooms are.

The last time I ate shrooms... I bought like 70 grams of some cubes, dispensed 63, and was left with MUSHROOM SHAKE... aborts man... I ate 6 grams of them -



I kid you not, my conscious, my being... was introverted into itself, and existed in a place by itself... a single mathmatical point in my brain, was where I stayed for about an hour... there existed no depth, no length, no time... only memories.

My memories were simultaneously playing on a large wall of memories... like this



I would hit a wave, and zoom into a memory, where inside the memory was like real life... touch, sound, sight, hearing, taste... I was there, reliving the memories... I found myself driving down a hill with my step dad, I peered over at the odometer, 40mph... I looked out the window and saw life as I once knew it.... then BAM dissolved, BACK OUT TO THE SCREEN, immersed into a new memory... for about an hour this went on, during the hardest peak of the trip. It was incredible. All this in a room with 8 other people that ate like 2-4 grams.. they were marveling at the balls I was tripping, the entire time I couldn't help but shed a few tears.


I feel like I found the apitome of a mushroom trip, emotions and memories turned up to 100%.... this is why I take lsd as a recreational substance.... Everything has a sparkle, a glitter, yet you do not pour your emotions into every thought... however, what I do find interesting, is that your subconscious is projected into your conscious during the trip... Though you do not 'see' it, if you notice the patches of dark, if you notice them, they make lines, and those lines make up a shape, that is your subconscious - your environment, and experiences that you don't even know effect your active conscious. We are more effected by things than we think, I am slowly finding out.
 
Puffer Fish

Puffer Fish

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Sr. Verde said:
My first shroom trip... I went with friends to a waterpark in the summer

I ate 2 grams of shrooms... shit was pretty intense, but I was walking around the park, standing in lines with kids & parents, sitting in the top of the slide waiting to go... laughing my ass off.

If he's going to chill at home I'd say 3 to trip balls. Two grams if your going somewhere and need to function.




But then again, it depends on the kind of person you are - and how strong/fresh your shrooms are.

The last time I ate shrooms... I bought like 70 grams of some cubes, dispensed 63, and was left with MUSHROOM SHAKE... aborts man... I ate 6 grams of them -



I kid you not, my conscious, my being... was introverted into itself, and existed in a place by itself... a single mathmatical point in my brain, was where I stayed for about an hour... there existed no depth, no length, no time... only memories.

My memories were simultaneously playing on a large wall of memories... like this



I would hit a wave, and zoom into a memory, where inside the memory was like real life... touch, sound, sight, hearing, taste... I was there, reliving the memories... I found myself driving down a hill with my step dad, I peered over at the odometer, 40mph... I looked out the window and saw life as I once knew it.... then BAM dissolved, BACK OUT TO THE SCREEN, immersed into a new memory... for about an hour this went on, during the hardest peak of the trip. It was incredible. All this in a room with 8 other people that ate like 2-4 grams.. they were marveling at the balls I was tripping, the entire time I couldn't help but shed a few tears.


I feel like I found the apitome of a mushroom trip, emotions and memories turned up to 100%.... this is why I take lsd as a recreational substance.... Everything has a sparkle, a glitter, yet you do not pour your emotions into every thought... however, what I do find interesting, is that your subconscious is projected into your conscious during the trip... Though you do not 'see' it, if you notice the patches of dark, if you notice them, they make lines, and those lines make up a shape, that is your subconscious - your environment, and experiences that you don't even know effect your active conscious. We are more effected by things than we think, I am slowly finding out.
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Nicely PUT V ... smoke that in a BONG !

;)
 
ANC

ANC

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tripping and hallucinateing is not the same thing, most people can handle visuals, but not all can deal with tripping.
My suggestion is a low dose DMT, lol, maybe its because I sat a group of 14 people on shrooms last night :P.

Salvia is the worst possible start for a newcommer, its the one that takes the most experience to turn into a usefull positive action.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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ANC said:
tripping and hallucinateing is not the same thing, most people can handle visuals, but not all can deal with tripping.
My suggestion is a low dose DMT, lol, maybe its because I sat a group of 14 people on shrooms last night :P.

Salvia is the worst possible start for a newcommer, its the one that takes the most experience to turn into a usefull positive action.
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I find salvia very rewarding

But yes, like you said NOT for a beginner!

Good point on the tripping, vs. visuals ;)



You have to understand the knowledge you gain with psychadelics, and understand how to properly mentally absorb the experiences and find some good in your trips first.

Incredible experience, to be accelerated to the other side, where you meet other people.

But if your not used to psychedelic experiences, and you don't understand what salvia divinorum is.. being accelerated to another dimension can be scary.
 
Taavi

Taavi

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Taking psychedelics first time in home (place you are most familiar with and feel yourself safe) and alone is a bad idea ?
 
Puffer Fish

Puffer Fish

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Sr. Verde said:
I find salvia very rewarding

But yes, like you said NOT for a beginner!

Good point on the tripping, vs. visuals ;)



You have to understand the knowledge you gain with psychadelics, and understand how to properly mentally absorb the experiences and find some good in your trips first.

Incredible experience, to be accelerated to the other side, where you meet other people.

But if your not used to psychedelic experiences, and you don't understand what salvia divinorum is.. being accelerated to another dimension can be scary.
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Scary And Traumatic .... and we want to avoid that. :)
As first approach to the threshold should be gradual.
There is nothing to prove really.
This first journey will shape your path.

:P
 
Karmapuff

Karmapuff

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Salvia's a good one to get people not to do psychedelics lol.. imo

I think lsd is a good psychedelic to trip on first if you don't have dmt around.
 
RoffleWaffels

RoffleWaffels

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Yaay! Haha, I can actually put forth an experienced opinion for this sort of thing now! :D

I recently just tried shrooms, still need to post the experience and pictures, but it's a journey, to say the least. 3 grams of penis envy, though I don't suggest taking that much for your first time. My mind was completely rocked for that night and I experienced things I really didn't even know possible. I've yet to try acid, but would absolutely love to after experiencing shrooms.

As far as my opinion goes, go for a good eighth of shrooms. They were the easiest to find for me, and you could eat about 1.5 grams to get a feel for what it is to take a psychadelic and still have 2 grams left.

By the end of your trip, I can gaurantee you'll feel enlightened. Ride the waves of psychadelic-ness, don't fight it. You'll be in for a treat no matter what you decide on. Best of luck! :)
 
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