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Greenwhilley

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Hey guys, I want to compile a list of must have strains that are currently available. Particularly strains that may become harder to obtain over the years for what ever reasons.

And in the hope of law changes in my country at some distant time, I would like to start a breeding program with them.
Im always paranoid that one day all the seed banks will be forced to stop shipping to aus.

Im also a collector by nature, and while I have the opportunity to safely obtain seeds, I see this as a new hobby to enjoy, not to mention I'd have to grow some out along the way :)

So far my list is pretty much most of OG Raskal and Mr nice's line up.

I would love to hear opinions on what people think are the current "legendary" strains.
 

bluntmassa1

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OG Raskal?? I could see stocking up on all the old school greats if your trying to preserve strains just not so much anything from too many new breeders. if I where to save seed like that I'd get serious ak-47, kali mist and bubblegum , sensi seeds, afghan#1, Skunk#1, Jack Herrer, mr. nice, master kush, northern lights off the top of my head, MR. Nice Black Widow, few other white ones, Neville's Haze, SSH, mango haze,g13 skunk, spice, devil, early queen a few others, DJ Short blueberry, Deluxe sweet tooth #3 f2's just sucks we missed the F1's from steve, along with many others no fems cause if anything happened and you can't get seed anymore your gonna want to at least make F2's of everything then you can breed from there.
 

SeedHo

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any of the land races you get your hands on. that's where all these strains come from, and every time there's a new flavor of the week they fall even farther from sight.
 

Mad Hamish

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Anything from Bodhi. Most of his runs are limited so if you miss out on a run then you might never get to see them again... And I agree about the landraces. The good ones are disappearing slowly...
 

Greenwhilley

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Thanks for all the input so far, I'll take it all on board.

Which breeder should u look to for good landrace strains? I know "world of seeds" has them, but not heard to much positive feedback about them.
 

Mad Hamish

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Thanks for all the input so far, I'll take it all on board.

Which breeder should u look to for good landrace strains? I know "world of seeds" has them, but not heard to much positive feedback about them.
Bodhi's got a good Malawi, real deal mate. But mostly if you want landrace you have to travel or know somebody there. And there be some myths around, like Durban Poison (trust me I am South African) which is actually Transkei weed which all locals know for it's minty taste. So that I guess is the special one to get your hands on, a true landrace.

We're not allowed to link up seeds via the site and talk about trading them etc otherwise it would be easy, guys from everwhere on the boards.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Hamish my old friend? I think I get it now. I had to think about your post/PM from earlier. I love my friends from South Africa.
 

mycomaster

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How cool would it be to collect actual landrace strains on a long marathon trek across the globe. That minty Transkei sounds amazing bro. I would love to breed that into a Skunk#1 hybrid or maybe a Cookies or O.G. Kush. One day we'll all be able to get our breed on. Peace out.
 

sully

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I've wondered the same question you've asked GreenWhilley. I've also wondered If someone was going to collect any of the aforementioned strains above or any early genetics that are available from the Mr. Nice and Sensi's and other older breeders, then how about the age of their seed stock? Would love to know what experienced collectors and breeders opinion is. Older strain, older company's/breeders, older seeds?
 

yesum

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World of Seeds gave me quite ragged and nanner producing plants. I was also on the landrace kick.

Maple Leaf Indica is a good landrace indica. Panama Red from ACE is a real nice landrace sativa. the Panama has been inbred to reduce flowering time and grow indoors. The MLI has been inbred to be very stable.

Real landrace seeds will have a lot of variation and not all will be great smoke.

Grandaddy Purple from Ken, SAD or Black Domina variation from Sweet Seeds. Northern Lights from Nirvana was great. Am growing NL and Humboldt Purple from Classic Seeds now. Sweettooth #3 from Deluxe also.

Choices are unlimited really so you might be overwhelmed. Better than not having enough choices.
 

beginner420

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Greenhouse seeds has started a landrace collection and have done a few videos on it, their called strain hunters you can watch them on youtube
 

Mad Hamish

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Greenhouse seeds has started a landrace collection and have done a few videos on it, their called strain hunters you can watch them on youtube
It will be LEGIT I promise you. They're hard workers, they've got a little patch in the Transkei that I know about for sure. I got wind of it about 5 years ago already so this thing has been a LONG time coming.
There was this smear-campaign going against them that they were letting pollen escape and blah blah blah but I don't think a big serious business will make the mistake of runaway pollen, that would just ruin what they are trying to do.
I'm definitely keeping my eye on this, some exciting things can come of it! I hope they give us a nice pure Nepalese :)
 

Greenwhilley

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My last grow was nirvana NL and I loved it, was so easy to grow and I loved the taste.

My avatar is a pic of her.
sorry for the upside down pics, even when I rotate them in my phone first they upload this way.
 

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bluntmassa1

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Greenhouse seeds has started a landrace collection and have done a few videos on it, their called strain hunters you can watch them on youtube
Yeah they claimed landrace strains woulds be sold about 2 years ago and as far as I know it still hasn't happened plus if they start selling fem landraces it would kinda defeat the porpoise.


  • World of seeds gave me quite ragged and nanner producing plants. I was also on the landrace kick.




thats 1 problem with landraces it took a lot of work for breeders to breed out the hermie traits. Really that's why I'd stick with old school strains ones with a clear lineage you get all the old genetics you can breed almost anything even og kush, chemdog, etc. very few new strains come from landrace except mandala and I think ace maybe a few more.
 

Redeye Bri

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Well, Landrace aside, and to the original question, here is a personal "best of best" wishlist:

Tahoe Og from Cali Conn
Grapestomper from Gage Green
Mr. Nice Super Silver Haze
Reserva Privada OG18
Mandala Satori
Rare Dankness Ghost Train Haze #1
Serious Seeds AK-47
Sannie's Jack
Connoisseur Genetics Grandaddy Purple
Bodhi Temple
DJ Short Blueberry
DNA Chocolope
Female C99
OG Raskal WhiteFire
SinCity BluePower
Soma NYC Diesel
TGA Jillybean

That list would last me a for quite sometime. A few of them have already become hard to find. Cheers.
 

Jogro

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Hey guys, I want to compile a list of must have strains that are currently available. Particularly strains that may become harder to obtain over the years for what ever reasons.
Individual lines may come and go, but I think that to the extent that anything is available, good stuff will always be available. People tend to keep and perpetuate the lines that are good, not the ones that are bad.

For example, its legal to grow on private property in Spain, and its legal to possess ceeds there. Consequently, lots of the major breeders make their ceeds there, and at least several are HQ'd there (eg Dinafem, etc). So far as I know there is no serious criminalization movement in Spain meaning ceeds are probably going to be made there for a LONG time to come.

In general, the international trend (albeit slowly) is towards legalization. There are more seedbanks open today than ever before, more breeders, more strains, and more ceeds sold. So I think, if anything, there are probably MORE good strains available now then in the past, and more suppliers, and the number of them is probably only going to go up over time.

I'd say its difficult to know which individual lines may become unavailable. Usually when that happens its because the line isn't popular and the original breeder becomes defunct, and/or the line is some kind of hybrid where the parents aren't known or available so its effectively irreproduceable. Good stuff where the original breeder disappears still usually manages to stick around in someone's private collection and tends to reappear commercially.

So at least in terms of true-breeding lines, the big "name" ones are so widely held, that there is little risk that they'll totally die out (eg Skunk, Jack Herer, White Widow, Northern lights, etc). Lots of the "name" strains that people like right now really aren't stable lines. Stuff like that is always at risk of disappearing, but it probably doesn't really "matter" since lots of them are basically interchangeable "one off" crosses of other stuff. EG, how many variants of OG kush, or crosses with it are out there? If any one of them disappears, would it really change anything?

I don't count individual "one off" crosses in limited supply by breeders as "strains". These may make excellent plants, but they're not really "strains'. REAL strains, in my mind, have to exhibit some stability, meaning they have to be inbred over several generations, meaning they take at least a full year of work to create (and ideally closer to two years). Breeders who spend the time and effort to do that, don't intend for these lines to be one-offs.

Im always paranoid that one day all the seed banks will be forced to stop shipping to aus.
Don't think anyone can stop people from trying to ship ceeds into Australia. If there is a demand, someone will step up with the supply. The biggest real-world limiting factor is always going to be Aussie customs locating them. I'm pretty sure there is already lots of great genetics within Australia too, it just not may be widely available, unless you're in the right circles.

I would love to hear opinions on what people think are the current "legendary" strains.
I think by definition, if a strain is "legendary" its probably not going to disappear quickly from people's minds. Off the top of my head:

Northern Lights, Skunk #1, Blueberry, Trainwreck, White (aka Black) Widow, Romulan, Haze, Lowryder, Williams Wonder, Jack Herer, Super Silver Haze, C99, Mendo Purple (and variants including GDP), AK-47, Herijuana. Maybe we can put Kosher Kush, Chocolope, Kali Mist, Master Kush, in that list.

Note that these are all "legendary", that doesn't necessarily make them the best for any individual grower. I'm also deliberately omitting the famous "clone only" lines, or lines derived from them (eg Cheese, OG Kush, etc).

Landraces? Durban Poison, Panama Red/Punta Rojo, Acapulco Gold, Columbian Gold/Santa Marta, Jamaican Lamb's breath, Malawi, Oaxacan, just to name a few of the best/most famous off the top of my head.

One serious problem with these is that many of these come from equatorial or tropical type climates, making them difficult to impossible to finish outdoors in most of the world. These are also usually really tall/stretchy, and hermie prone, so they're not well-suited for indoor cultivation.
 
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