BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

crazyBig

crazyBig

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It started leaking wen the pump was off but in full vac. I was letting pressure out with the valve and ended up shooting out oil. It doesnt shoot out no more but stileaks slowly and also doesnt stay at full vac with the pump off for more than 20 min. Could there be a leak somewhere in the pump?
 
Twitch

Twitch

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no what is happening is the vacuum in the chamber is pulling the oil out of your pump and in to the chamber
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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yup twitch has it. same thing was happening to me. a regulator will fix it, or like fadedawg might have mentioned, a cold trap. or putting the valve closer to the vacuum pump, and not right on the chamber.. or have 2, and just add another right after the vacuum pump, before the hose starts. vacuum pump - ball valve - hose - ball valve - relief valve - vac chamber.

try not to position your oil directly under the air inlet thing in the lid.

AND, when youre done sucking on the chamber and gonna let it sit, after you close the ball valve, unscrew the hose from the vacuum pump. it lets the hose equalize in pressure. then hook it back up for future use. problem solved. 0$ spent.

twich, that regulator looks cheap, no offense... where did ya get it? how much was it? id get one if it was the right price.
 
Twitch

Twitch

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vacpurge said:
yup twitch has it. same thing was happening to me. a regulator will fix it, or like fadedawg might have mentioned, a cold trap. or putting the valve closer to the vacuum pump, and not right on the chamber.. or have 2, and just add another right after the vacuum pump, before the hose starts. vacuum pump - ball valve - hose - ball valve - relief valve - vac chamber.

try not to position your oil directly under the air inlet thing in the lid.

AND, when youre done sucking on the chamber and gonna let it sit, after you close the ball valve, unscrew the hose from the vacuum pump. it lets the hose equalize in pressure. then hook it back up for future use. problem solved. 0$ spent.

twich, that regulator looks cheap, no offense... where did ya get it? how much was it? id get one if it was the right price.
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harbor freight for life.... lol its the same brand as my pump us general i believe it is HFs brand
 
Twitch

Twitch

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i actually cant find it one their website, but what makes it look cheap?

and i think i paid like 40 bucks for it maybe i ma not entirely sure
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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vacpurge said:
yup twitch has it. same thing was happening to me. a regulator will fix it, or like fadedawg might have mentioned, a cold trap. or putting the valve closer to the vacuum pump, and not right on the chamber.. or have 2, and just add another right after the vacuum pump, before the hose starts. vacuum pump - ball valve - hose - ball valve - relief valve - vac chamber.

try not to position your oil directly under the air inlet thing in the lid.

AND, when youre done sucking on the chamber and gonna let it sit, after you close the ball valve, unscrew the hose from the vacuum pump. it lets the hose equalize in pressure. then hook it back up for future use. problem solved. 0$ spent. .
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What VP said.
 
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bhoblastin

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Hey wondering if you could help with a few quick vac questions. My product keeps "styro foaming" up, and maybe I just need to let it do this and keep doing it until it stops styrofoaming?
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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muffin you mean? like what I posted a few pages ago? that could be just the butane escaping from the first few pulls on it. they should stop eventually. what temperature is your product being vaccumed at? if you mean drying out/waxing, that usually means shes well past done. I suppose you could liquidize it by even more heat, but that wouldnt be doing it any benefit other than maybe easier to handle.
 
Fadedawg

Fadedawg

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bhoblastin said:
Hey wondering if you could help with a few quick vac questions. My product keeps "styro foaming" up, and maybe I just need to let it do this and keep doing it until it stops styrofoaming?
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What temperature and vacuum level?

A muffin inflates from escaping solvent, terpenes, and C02. If you collapse it a few times and re inflate it, it mostly stops inflating once the solvent leaves.

If you will put it in a thin film at 115F and -29.5F, it should flatten out and rapidly purge the solvent.
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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so.... heres one for you guys.

take your "dried" out wax that you got, and your dabber. and mix the hell out of it... whip it so to speak. crush it, grind it, mix it it, etc... play with it for 5 mins.

it is now back into a black oil glob, but when I spread it, or take a hoot, its like im taking it from a dry paste that turns golden/greenish when I break it apart. I will get pics tonight.

but if you got a spare chunk of wax laying around... try it out and see what you think??

now I wonder if I put this black wax ball back into the chamber what would happen.. .hmmm
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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I made some qwiso the other day, and it ended up getting much drier then ever before, and took on a very stable taffy texture. I also didn't have to heat it over 100 degree even once! After I scraped it, it was chunky, and sticky so I pressed it with a hot water bottle like a chunk of actual hash. Low and behold it melted perfectly together into a smooth mass. It doesn't melt as quickly(but melts very well) on a nail as my more oily stuff, but is very smooth and VERY tasty. I burned a piece on a bowl and it was awesome, full melt but not like putting a drop of oil on were it just soaks in instantly. It would sit there on top and slowly melt in with the bowl, however it left no residue at all.
 
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EvasiveGrower

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Thx for all your experimentation fellas,

I'm in the midst of converting my shatter to wax. Trying 12 hrs around 115-120F in full vac.

should I devac and fold up the ball of oil or just go the full 12 hrs or so and mess with it then?

3hrs in so far temps we are 100F, just raised to 120F
 

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Twitch

Twitch

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we have found the sweet spot seems to be 130, but ramp up a little at a time. you should still see lil bubbles forming when at full vac.... do you?
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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EvasiveGrower said:
Yes small bubbles are still forming. Here is 12 hrs at 120F. 11gram patty. Will crank to 130 for today and post results.
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you are on the way to wax my friend, my shit looked the same way this morning.. i like to see the foggy swirls take over. you are close!

bumping up to 130 sounds good. be sure to keep an eye on it. make sure you dont run off your pad as well! try not to over shoot 130 though.. let it ride out a that temp for another 5 hrs or so, if it starts waxing, just leave it. if it doesnt, post some more pics of its progress!

have you ever made wax before?
 
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