Bigboy's Winter indoor grow.

bigboybuds

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I will probably have to run my heater set to something low, like 18c.. just in case. Probably wont be able to keep it at my desired 78 today. I might just have to hang out with them a lot.. just being in the room for a while ups the temps some.
So here is what I have learned. With my heater set to 18d/C. (my lowest setting, besides 5, which is some Frost setting) My room will stay between 77-80, with my lights, and exhaust running. I hate running my heater at the same time as the light, and it seems to turn on and off quite a bit. Without the heater, and not messing with the exhaust/Fan timer, it hovers around 73-75... Both acceptable I know, but I hate seeing it below 78 for some reason.. If I chill out in there, and burn one, I can get the temp up a degree or two... :leaf::leaf:
 

bigboybuds

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haha i bet my room gets down to the 40's at night...

Holy Sheet!

I leave my Heater on when lights go off.. Its -10 outside right now, without the wind chill factored in. I would kill them quick outside in my shed. I think I read/heard somewhere that a 10 degree drop during lights off is optimal.. And since my heater only goes as low as 18, that's where the 78 comes from.. Which I also heard/read was optimal as well..:P

I do have a question, if anyone is still reading.

How bad is it for the temps to swing up and down rapidly? For instance... I walked into my room tonight, and the temp was 74.. I turned on my heater for a few mins to get it up a few degrees. I left, and came back out about two hours later and did the same thing, as it had dropped again. I know in nature temps go up and down, but in a controlled setting, i'm not sure if this will cause them any stress, and contribute to the possibility of them Hermi'ing, if it was done frequently.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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Holy Sheet!

I leave my Heater on when lights go off.. Its -10 outside right now, without the wind chill factored in. I would kill them quick outside in my shed. I think I read/heard somewhere that a 10 degree drop during lights off is optimal.. And since my heater only goes as low as 18, that's where the 78 comes from.. Which I also heard/read was optimal as well..:P

I do have a question, if anyone is still reading.

How bad is it for the temps to swing up and down rapidly? For instance... I walked into my room tonight, and the temp was 74.. I turned on my heater for a few mins to get it up a few degrees. I left, and came back out about two hours later and did the same thing, as it had dropped again. I know in nature temps go up and down, but in a controlled setting, i'm not sure if this will cause them any stress, and contribute to the possibility of them Hermi'ing, if it was done frequently.
i cant really answer that with any actual knowledge just my opinion. my opinion is they should be fine.

its about the same temp here wondering if you are located close to me as our weather seems to be the same. im in Maine

i have had plants get hit with 4-5 frosts on outdoor grows and be fine but as you stated above outdoor and indoor are alot different and indoor plants arent stressed during thier life to be able to deal with them kinds of extremeties as outdoor plants are subjected to gradually lowering temps as the summer comes to and end and fall kicks in so they have been stressed to be able to handle it. same thing with Hardening off your indoor plants when your ready to bring them outside in the spring. you cant just plop them outside and expect them to make it, the enviormental factors they they will be subjected too needs to be a gradual so they can stress the plant into being able to deal with them.

people on here say that stress is a bad thing for plants but there is alot of stressors that are actually healthy for a plant, for example your fan blowing on a plant. this causes stress, the stress caused makes the plant grow a thicker/stronger stem. alot of enviormental stressors like bugs and harsh wether conditions will make a mother plant yeild seeds (offspring) that are more tolerant to these conditions, more bug resistant, heat resistant so on and so fourth.

anyways im probabaly preaching to the choir here im sure you know all this already. but given that information that i do know i would say the slight temp change in your grow room shouldnt effect anything and im sure it is causing minimal amounts of stress, but after a few days the plant will develop ways to deal with the changing in temprature and become more tolerant to it.
 

NOR.C4L.DUB

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So here is what I have learned. With my heater set to 18d/C. (my lowest setting, besides 5, which is some Frost setting) My room will stay between 77-80, with my lights, and exhaust running. I hate running my heater at the same time as the light, and it seems to turn on and off quite a bit. Without the heater, and not messing with the exhaust/Fan timer, it hovers around 73-75... Both acceptable I know, but I hate seeing it below 78 for some reason.. If I chill out in there, and burn one, I can get the temp up a degree or two... :leaf::leaf:
Have you tried installing a damper in the duct so you can exhaust a controlled level of hot air flowing out of the lights to help heat the room? http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=202542804&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=202542804&ci_kw={keyword}&kwd={keyword}&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googleads-_-pla-_-202542804&ci_gpa=pla#.UOWZ1G9xSJo
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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bigboybuds

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That's not a bad idea actually. I suck cold air from an outside room, and blow it through my light, and back outside again. The damper would allow some of that hot air to remain. Thanks for the tip !!
 

bigboybuds

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Howdy folks. Sorry about the delay in updating, but I haven't been able to spend as much time with the lady's this week as I usually like to. I have a shitty back/Sciatica, and popped a disk a few days ago.. Just finally getting back up and around.

I had a feeling my God's treat genetics had a Hermie trait, but wasn't positive. I have grown it 3 times so far, and each time it popped nanners. I chalked it up to user error. Before X mas I gave a few clones to a friend, and his Hermi'ed. I was keeping a close eye on the 4 plants I have going this round, and after giving them a good search this past Saturday, I found nanners on all 4. Most was on the under growth, that wasn't getting good light, but there were quite a few of them. 99% that I found, hadn't opened yet either, and the ones that did, were jammed between a bud, and the stem, so hopefully polination was minimal. I know it only takes a small amount to ruin a crop. I thought long and hard about weather or not I was going to chop them, but I decided not to just yet. I am positive that I got all the nanners, and will keep a CLOSE eye on them over the next few days, to see how fast they are popping up. If I cant keep up, they will get tossed. I have tossed my God's Treat mother. Some people HATE seeds in their weed, but I don't mind if it's a small amount. I like to experiment, and with 5 different strains in there, I could find something interesting. If I was trying to make a profit of any kind, it would be a different story.

Lets start with The Gods Treat.. This was my favorite of the bunch until I found the nanners..:( I gave her a major haircut. and lolli popped her tops, so I could keep a closer eye on things. I know this might have contributed to the problem, but meh.. What else can happen right? Maybe stunt it a bit? Maybe more nanners? We will see I guess. I have searched the rest of the plants, and didn't find anything.. And you better believe I am a semi pro Nanner Hunter now.

This is after Haircut shot And some of the nanners I picked off with wet tweesers.

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Scrog is doing Great. No Issues to speak of. well, left side was a bit too stretchy, and nodes could have been closer, but I won't complain (Much) Left side is my Stink berry, Right side is Great White Shark... Probably going to remove some node blocking foliage at the end of week 6.. give the buds that last few weeks of better light. Won't remove enough to stall them.

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Buds are starting to get fat.. This is day 2 of Week 5.. Pics were taken yesterday. My stinkberry (left side scrog & First pic ) packs it on the last 2 weeks, and its a 9 week strain, so I am not concerned that they are a bit behind (grew her multiple times as well).. Looks like the Shark will get nice and fat by the end. (Right side scrog & second pic) The God's Treat (Last few pics) is the furthest along, and the quickest finisher.. I will take it down at 8 weeks, or sooner if I fall to the nanners.

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Here is a quick shot of the Blueberry Kush. Its a slow grower so far, and the pistol's are really thick. Looks like a perfect pair of open legs. Getting real frosty though.

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SO all in all, minus the Hermi's.. Things are going well.. It was pretty cold out the past few days ( like minus 15 + wind chill), and the room held steady at no lower than 74. Today it warmed up, and room was up to 81 at one point. Supposed to be pretty warm the rest of the week.





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SOMEBEECH

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Just stopping bye,Seems like the hermie plant has unstable Genes.
I made some seeds oh about 5yrs ago and id get 5 from 10 tht would not herm.
I like playing around also,Cause just growing has become boreing.I like this ALOT!!!


Beech
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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my blue cheese hermied on me as well, i collected the pollen and might play around with some crosses to see what i come up with. the fruity chronic juice seems to be a really nice pheno and the blue cheese seems to be a shit pheno so im thinking if i pollinate one of the FCJ clones (just a small lower node) i might end up with 1/2 & 1/2 good pheno...will see i still have 6 more new strains vegging right now so im in no hurry to pollinate. hopefully i can find at least 1 killer pheno in the next round.

sorry to hear about your nanner situation but in my experience i think i have had hermies in every one of my grows and the nanners opened up and so far i havent found a whole lot of seeds. maybe one or 2 here and there but for the most part pretty seedless smoke.

I really want to get some colidal silver and induce all my fem plants to naner at some point so i can collect pollen for later use, that way if i end up with a couple killer pheno's i can do some breeding and make up my own strains.

grow is looking killer though man, sorry about your back. i dont have chronic back problems but i am a tall guy and have pulled some muscles pretty bad before that jave laid me up for weeks so i know where your coming from, nothing worse than not being able to function for your every day life tasks.

you think you could get some non HPS shots in the near future?

:peace: and happy growing
RMTB
 

bigboybuds

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Thanks for sticking around guys!

Yea, I was going to apologize for the HPS last post, but forgot. I will definitely get a few shots soonish.. Probably the last two weeks. I will just have to drag a lamp in there, and take em just after lights go off.

I have been dealing with my back problems for over 5 years now, and am pretty used to it EXCEPT for when I tweak it, or pop a disk (which usually happens at least once every 2 months) I just finally got on to a Surgery waiting list. Back pain is one of those things that is easy to fake, so I had to jump through all kinds of hoops, to let them know I was legit.

I have been interested in breeding different strains now for a while, but just don't have the space for it. The Wife won't let me grow in the house at all, and my shed is not fit. I might try to bribe a friend, to let me do it at his place.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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you should be able to do some breeding without using any more space than what you already have.

step 1: take colidal silver and spray a small area on a plant you want to hermie. you can do this to one of your girls that are already in flower and just do it @ week 6 or so of flower so even if the pollen does escape the plants wont have time to develop any seeds, but if your carefull you shouldnt have any pollen contamination. just keep your spray sites small.

step 2: wait for nanners to pop and develop and collect them just before they open up.

step 3: use pollen from collected naners to brush on a small budsite to make some seeds. use a tag or something on the site so you knw where you bushed and simply remove that site before harvest and set aside to dry out

step 4: collect seeds and plant.

this is at least what i make of it. i wont breed using males due to the same problem you have, space restrictions. but to produce feminized seeds using collidal silver as a stressor to make a plant hermie wont pass on any additional hermie traits because the plant dosent have them, you forced it to hermie.

anyways like i said thats what i want to try doinf. not sure if its the right way or not but only one way to find out right? :)
 

truckster

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hey this topic was always an interest to me and what if u took a nanner from one of your indica doms and touched it on the most sativa"ish" plant:twisted:,like say just a nugget.What traits would this seed mostly take up? Anyone know? Hybrid ofcourse and would it still take like 100 days lol or take on the say 55-65 day flower period? If you happen to have a sativa kickin around thats in flower and you rub some pollen on a nug like the reply above then you may create the next cup winner lol just saying ya never know or atleast your own unique shit to try for a while who knows i use to mess around back in the day just goofing with bagseeds from high school hahahaha i even had seeds from this pine weed that got ya super cooked back in the early 90's i wonder what strain that was called anyway? was super raunchy as fack too,any ideas?:mrgreen:
 

bigboybuds

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Well here we are.. End of Week 5. Things are going well now that I have won the War on Nanners!!! :clap:. I was going over each of the 4 God's Treat every day for the past week. First few days I was getting very discouraged. They were popping up like mad. I would glove up, and go over each bud with wet tweesers. Would remove the whole calyx that the nanners were growing from. Left some chunks in my buds, and they looked pretty ravaged, but the nanner production has slowed WAY down. Pistols are reddening from me handling them, so nanners would be less effective if I miss them anyways. I call that a victory. I know for sure I will have some seeds, but I removed the better part of 300 nanners (un opened) from all 4 plants combined. found maybe 6 or 7 that had opened.

4 of the 5 strains are 9 week'ers. I will be mixing up FAT doses of Big Bud for their last week (wk 6) for those going 9, and switched the God's treat over to Over Drive for two weeks then flush. They will get pulled at week 8. I am trying to PK burn the ones still getting Big Bud, just to add some of the good stress..;) PPM was 1350, up from the usual 1180. We will see what happens.

Took some Pics tonight after lights went out. I switched on a little lamp I had with a 6500K Cfl in it. Made for a few nice shots. :leaf::leaf::leaf:



Great White Shark (Notice the edges of the fans stand up like a row of teeth? Breeder vid states its a sure sign. None of my other plants do it.) DSCF2050.jpgDSCF2051.jpgDSCF2056.jpgDSCF2060.jpg


Stink Berry (What I named it. Bag seed that smells like.. well.. Stinky berries. DSCF2055.jpgDSCF2086.jpgDSCF2095.jpg



Chemo. Only had one plant (because it HATES to be cloned) Buds are starting to fatten up. I only took 1 pic of her I guess..? Deficiency is on old leaves. Problem was fixed weeks ago. DSCF2081.jpg



Blueberry Kush . They were slow at first, but now they are catching up. Getting frosty as Hell. Easy growers. DSCF2057.jpgDSCF2073.jpgDSCF2075.jpgDSCF2076.jpgDSCF2077.jpgDSCF2088.jpg


God's Treat. As mentioned.. The buds are a bit mangled from me nanner hunting, but still sexy. DSCF2061.jpgDSCF2062.jpgDSCF2063.jpgDSCF2065.jpgDSCF2067.jpgDSCF2078.jpgDSCF2080.jpg


Few randoms.. Plus what I am smoking tonight. Some Decent Power Plant. Frosty as hell.

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Only going to get better from here.. More pics next week!!
 
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