Blackwater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide

How do you guys feel about our national security being privatized?

Yeah maybe brown shirts and we can even get the kids involved !! Blackwater ! a black mark on the soul of America !! These creeps are run by a wacko christian fundamentalist no better than a bunch of skinheads.!!

At least "we guys" give a shit about our national security.

ol hippy said:

Yeah maybe brown shirts and we can even get the kids involved !! Blackwater ! a black mark on the soul of America !! These creeps are run by a wacko christian fundamentalist no better than a bunch of skinheads.!!

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You're thinking of that other bunch that raised hell in Sierra leon"Executive Outcomes".Eric prince is in some deep shit right now,Blackwater has changed its name 3 times but they keep going back to the old name.I think its easier and cheaper to send em for jobs that need small well trained squads.They want to be there and we get less kids killed using seasoned troops.Oh another thing,they have a badass training facility.They train SWAT,Arabic emersion language courses and some badass dog training.If Eric hadn't started contracting jobs on witnesses against him i think they would have gotten away with the ambush kill.

Illegal Smile said:

At least "we guys" give a shit about our national security.

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I meant you guys as in 'people on this board'. Sorry, I'll be sure to specify that in the future. I don't want to start some lame liberal vs. conservative debate, I was only asking a question.And what makes you think I don't care about national security?

Do you want to answer my initial question? What do you think about blackwater? I'm curious now...

abe23 said:

I meant you guys as in 'people on this board'. Sorry, I'll be sure to specify that in the future. I don't want to start some lame liberal vs. conservative debate, I was only asking a question.And what makes you think I don't care about national security?

Do you want to answer my initial question? What do you think about blackwater? I'm curious now...

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I'm sure there are plenty of things about Blackwater that I don't like. But they wouldn't be there if there weren't a market. Security is a commodity. It may be the future for nations that recognize the need for security to be exported to the trouble spots of the world but don't want to do it themselves to outsource it. The worst alternative is not to inject any security at all into those places.

Illegal Smile said:

I'm sure there are plenty of things about Blackwater that I don't like. But they wouldn't be there if there weren't a market. Security is a commodity. It may be the future for nations that recognize the need for security to be exported to the trouble spots of the world but don't want to do it themselves to outsource it. The worst alternative is not to inject any security at all into those places.

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I guess, that's where we disagree fundamentally. Security is not a commodity, it's a public good and should never be a for-profit business. I feel the same way about infrastructure, criminal justice and healthcare insurance, by the way.

The thing I don't like about them is mostly that they are murderous assholes who think they're on a christian crusade. The wife-swapping is kinda funny though....

Security is for sure a commodity. Without it economic development can't happen. That is what it holding most of the middle east back 600 years - no functional governments and no security. There are four commodities that must move freely throughout the world in order to end poverty and war. They are: capital, energy, people and security.

Who wants a GOVERNMENT run military anyways? Our national security needs to be ran by a corporation because we all know they look out for our best interests.

Viva la capitalism!

Regardless of how bad contracting out for national security might be, it's still a lot better than using it as a political bargaining chip like Obama apparently tried to do with Ben Nelson. That was a blunder and just makes team Obama look even more like the Chicago thugs they are.

If it wasn't Blackwater, it would be somebody else ...

CJ uses this as his cloaking device.

You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

This is exactly why having a conversation with your over-egoed ass is as worthless as confederate money, with about the same intellectual property.

He wasn't talking to me, I just liked the quote.

Ur so well informed ... again ... as usual.

I hate when Med gets his shit stirring spoon out!

He's got his underwear on backwards, I can tell.

He's infallibly wrong. It's his strongest suit.

Illegal Smile said:

Regardless of how bad contracting out for national security might be, it's still a lot better than using it as a political bargaining chip like Obama apparently tried to do with Ben Nelson. That was a blunder and just makes team Obama look even more like the Chicago thugs they are.

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that's been proven to be a lie. it never happened. but, of course, you will never appreciate that fact because you believe only what supports your agenda. your posts are worthless.

jeffchr said:

that's been proven to be a lie. it never happened. but, of course, you will never appreciate that fact because you believe only what supports your agenda. your posts are worthless.

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Of course team Obama denies it, but there are multiple sources. If the New York Trash had some shit on a republican you'd me more than happy to accept their anonymous sources.

Of course it's true. You know damn well it's true. Obama is desperate. Today it comes out he said to a congressman, "Don't think we're not keeping score, brother." In fact it's hard to believe Obama "wouldn't" threaten Ben nelson with that base. Damn straight it's true!

That's what happens when you fill ur administration with ppl who have no actual business experience.

How bout the fact that Obama was strongly against the use of contractors (blackwater and others) in iraq? now hes sending twice as many contractors as troops for this new surge? dont know the number but i beleive there will be more contractors in afghanistan than iraq now! he bashed the hell out of bush for his use of contractors! Like we dont remember! wow.......