bloombastic? worth the$?
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Clown Baby
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If they charge the most for it, it's clearly the best product. just look at AN! It's one part monopotassium phosphate and 2 parts magic potion. It's the magic that drives up the price.
jpockets420
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Its good but imo not worth the high price. Just get the free sample, then find a buddy to get another free sample and so on and so forth. Before you know it you'll have 10 50ml bottles of the stuff and its rocket fuel. A little goes a looooong way. Looks like a cross between baby throw up and strained peas, smells bad too, kind of like ground up vitamins and baby food.
GreenThumbSucker
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Clowny is right, these products are known as 'PK Boosters' and they are mono-potassium phosphate. They are super cheap to make and they are not necessary. Almost every hydroponic bloom formula in existence already has lots of Mono-potassium phosphate in them.. You are paying big $$ for fancy packaging and no extra benefit to your plants.
Chopsticks33
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What is the best nut to use for bloom?
phuzy
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The guys at my hydro shop say it's the shit.. So if you're already a few years deep in growing and the money isn't a problem go for it.. but there are better options anyway bro. Try MOAB by Mad Farmer. Its the shit son. Its only 15 bucks for a full harvest (only use it twice in flower and it's super concentrated.) It's the same shit man and won't burn a hole in your pocket. Check out my grow I just used it this run with Dutch Master.
Chopsticks33
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Its it like monster bloom and big bud but cheaper? Thanks for the tip
CoralGrower
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100% Crap-in-a-Bottle. "Bling Bling for your plants." Okay, then what exactly is a "bling bling" deficiency? Nothing more than a product designed to separate a grower with "knowledge deficiency" from his/her "bling bling".
Chopsticks33
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Im using dutch master also. Im using add 27. should i use moab with add 27? Thanks
phuzy
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Yeah, always use add.27. What you do need to cut down is your nutrient a and b by about half and go from there. Check your ppm's after that and add more a & b to get it to the right number if you need too.
phuzy
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Yeah, its exactly like AN's bloom booster. Its only 15 bucks for a 100g's too which is insane!
Chopsticks33
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Thanks alot! I need to save some money
Clown Baby
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paying $60/lb (roughly the same as $15/100g) of MOAB will seem insane after you look at the ingredients on the MOAB bottle.
http://www.cropking.com/HydroponicSupplies/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=264_268&products_id=331&zenid=790afd00deb7e582c0d1c2ee592226db
The main ingredient in that stuff has a RETAIL value of $2/lb.
So even at $15/100g, MOAB has almost a 3000% markup. Granted, there are packaging and overhead costs that they have to cover, but still. You can buy a bag of this stuff and a gallon of B vitamins at home depot for $6, and be stocked on PK booster for the rest of your life.
phuzy
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Thats true, but who knows how much youre giving to your plants and how concentrated it is. This stuff is marked up but i dont mind giving them the $$. Its still cheaper than an's and i think its a great product.
Save your time. Most people don't care. They have convinced themselves that all these additives are must have because cannabis is a very special plant and needs specific nutrients to grow. Never mind the fact that it is one of the easiest plants to grow and propagate. Facts fall by the wayside and bottles of colored water with a few mineral salts sprinkled in sell for $20 a quart. It's all about the fancy label and name. These guys could market urine as a refreshing drink and some of these guys would buy it.
If these guys can't do a five minute google search to find out how easy and cheap it is to make the same stuff they pay $20 a quart for then let them throw their money away. These are the same people who consistently have issues with deficiencies, lockouts, ph issues, burnt leaves, etc... One would think that they would be able to realize that they are the ones causing all those issues by dumping crap on their plants that the plant doesn't need.
Chopsticks33
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What would be the best and cheap nutes to buy for flowering and vegging? I might try MOAB by Mad Farmer Im really need to save som money. im a newbie to this. Thanks for the great info!
GreenThumbSucker
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Marked up? Um, yeah by about 100 times. You are paying 20$ for about 25 cents worth of MPK and it is the EXACT SAME INGREDIENT. Mono potassium phosphate is the main ingredient in PK/Blossom boosters. To know how much you are giving your plants, you take a PPM reading. For the price of one bottle of the commercial stuff, you can make several lifetime supply's worth.