BMO nutes

Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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mwdtx said:
cool how many days a week should i give it nutes, every day, or every other wwatering
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MwdTx..... You have two choices - feed weekly like on the chart I posted on the previous page or every two weeks. If you feed weekly, feed every 5 to 7 days. Water as necessary. With the SPT, you can use it with your nutes or with the plain water. Just apply the SPT as per the label, once a week just like the nutes, in this case.
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Now, I grow in soil, outdoors for the most part. Soil is a great buffer, so I double the strength of nutes and only feed every two weeks (one application). Then on the week in between, I use water / spt for my plants. My outdoor patches are near water and watering is not much of an issue for me. Most of the time, I have to water very little.
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If you are growing in pots - the size of the pot makes all the difference. Smaller pots, have a smaller volume of soil and dry out quicker. Nutes also get used up quicker in small pots.
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A one gallon pot, may require daily watering, pots around 2 gallons - every other day. This is one case, where size works to your advantage - after the plants are more than two weeks old. Start in small pots (to avoid overwatering in the begining - when plants require a lot less water), then repot to bigger pots - which give roots more room to expand - plus more medium acts like a buffer for nutes, pH and water.
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I hope this is not confusing - but pot size, strain & climate - dictate watering & feeding. Just know this - it's better to underfeed, than overfeed. One is easy to correct, the other is not. Some strains can suck up everything you throw at them, others nute burn very easy.
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Just start low, bump up feeding slowly & you will be better off. I just did that one run, with weekly feeding to make the chart for other growers. Since, most prefer to feed weely here on RIU, I thought it might be helpful.
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Either way works - it's just a personal choice. If using a semi-soil mix with lots of coco or spaghum peat moss - weekly feeding is best. If growing in ground or in large pots (5 gallons or more) byweekly feeding is better....
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Hope this helps....
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mwdtx

mwdtx

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Ohsogreen said:
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MwdTx..... You have two choices - feed weekly like on the chart I posted on the previous page or every two weeks. If you feed weekly, feed every 5 to 7 days. Water as necessary. With the SPT, you can use it with your nutes or with the plain water. Just apply the SPT as per the label, once a week just like the nutes, in this case.
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Now, I grow in soil, outdoors for the most part. Soil is a great buffer, so I double the strength of nutes and only feed every two weeks (one application). Then on the week in between, I use water / spt for my plants. My outdoor patches are near water and watering is not much of an issue for me. Most of the time, I have to water very little.
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If you are growing in pots - the size of the pot makes all the difference. Smaller pots, have a smaller volume of soil and dry out quicker. Nutes also get used up quicker in small pots.
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A one gallon pot, may require daily watering, pots around 2 gallons - every other day. This is one case, where size works to your advantage - after the plants are more than two weeks old. Start in small pots (to avoid overwatering in the begining - when plants require a lot less water), then repot to bigger pots - which give roots more room to expand - plus more medium acts like a buffer for nutes, pH and water.
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I hope this is not confusing - but pot size, strain & climate - dictate watering & feeding. Just know this - it's better to underfeed, than overfeed. One is easy to correct, the other is not. Some strains can suck up everything you throw at them, others nute burn very easy.
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Just start low, bump up feeding slowly & you will be better off. I just did that one run, with weekly feeding to make the chart for other growers. Since, most prefer to feed weely here on RIU, I thought it might be helpful.
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Either way works - it's just a personal choice. If using a semi-soil mix with lots of coco or spaghum peat moss - weekly feeding is best. If growing in ground or in large pots (5 gallons or more) byweekly feeding is better....
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Hope this helps....
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ya im using 2 gallon pots, so and i watar every other day. so i should feed once a week, and the SPT/ water the other days. sorry for all the questions, i just really wanna do this the right way and have the best for my girls.
 
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down2grow

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Ohsogreen said:
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Down2grow.... Eleven years ago, I was a chem only / hydro grower. So, I tried all the big names over the years, everything from GH to Vita-grow. Then when I transistioned to organic growing - I went through the Organic List - Fox Farm, Earth Juice, Bontanicare...etc...
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I had an old, I mean old Hippie ask me why I wasting my money on bottled stuff all the time. He showed me how to brew (bubble up) simple guano teas and use them properly. I was hooked. I enjoy making them & using them. I probably always will.
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I got turned on to BMO's SPT a while back by a younger grower, who swore by it. After using it on just one run, I decided to never grow without it. I'd love to know exactly how they make this stuff - it Rocks !!!
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Now back to the why of it - Basically, I got a really good deal on some BMO products last year at a harvest festival, here in Arkansas. The prices were really right, so I decided to try them out. I used the Flower Power to finish up (two out of ten) Skunk #1's. They smoked just as smooth as my tea only girls and yield was almost dead even.
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After I finished that run, I started another from seed to finish. The final yield on those Skunk's was within an ounce of the tea only girls, from the previous run.
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So, to be quite honest - BMO's stuff worked as well as my best made teas and smoked just as smooth. The ounce difference - had probably more to do with weather - than nutes - & we are talking about an ounce difference with ten plants.
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The BMO stuff is a good choice, for people who don't have the time or space for making teas on a regular basis. With their equipment, they are able to concentrate the stuff better than you or I can do in a bucket.
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Plus sometimes, it's just easier to carry those small bottles in my backpack to my grow patches - mix on the spot and be done with it.
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Hope this helps....
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ohso,

Yes your knowledge was very helpful as usual. Do you just mix accordingly to 1 gallon of water without and airpump/stone? So just shake it up? I just found some BMO nutes on Ebay and I'll most likely buy them since they are very cheap compared to FF. Im using FFOF as my medium and Im on my second week of veg from seed. So would you recommend using the grow nute right now or should I just wait til I flower and use the flower?

Thank again,

d2g
 
Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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down2grow said:
ohso,

Yes your knowledge was very helpful as usual. Do you just mix accordingly to 1 gallon of water without and airpump/stone? So just shake it up? I just found some BMO nutes on Ebay and I'll most likely buy them since they are very cheap compared to FF. Im using FFOF as my medium and Im on my second week of veg from seed. So would you recommend using the grow nute right now or should I just wait til I flower and use the flower?

Thank again,

d2g
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Down2Grow.... You're welcome. Yes, you mix it the same - wheter you bubble it, shake it or do the old - pour it from bucket to bucket thing. What matters is that is mixed into unchlorinated water.
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Since you're growing in good soil (some balanced nutes mixed in), I would not feed them BMO's grow formula until next week.
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I posted a basic feeding schedule a page or two back - it will work for most strains.
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The key to doing it right - start low (on mixing strength) and build up slowly on ferts. Then overlap them after Mary switches to flowering. Progressively reduce the grow formula, while progressively increasing the flower formula. If you do that - it's a piece of cake.......
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Hope this helps...
Keep it Real....Organic.....
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Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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mwdtx said:
ya im using 2 gallon pots, so and i watar every other day. so i should feed once a week, and the SPT/ water the other days. sorry for all the questions, i just really wanna do this the right way and have the best for my girls.
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MwdTx.... With 2 gallon pots, I'd feed every 5 days - since the need to frequently water - also means some nutes are being flushed out the bottom of your pots.
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The SPT, I'd still only use it one time each week. The micro-life in SPT can dig in & hold on, so you don't really have to worry about flushing them out.
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I would pre-wet the soil, prior to doing both. I explain why in another post - here's a link.
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https://www.rollitup.org/2132764-post256.html
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic...
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mwdtx

mwdtx

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Ohsogreen said:
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MwdTx.... With 2 gallon pots, I'd feed every 5 days - since the need to frequently water - also means some nutes are being flushed out the bottom of your pots.
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The SPT, I'd still only use it one time each week. The micro-life in SPT can dig in & hold on, so you don't really have to worry about flushing them out.
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I would pre-wet the soil, prior to doing both. I explain why in another post - here's a link.
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https://www.rollitup.org/2132764-post256.html
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic...
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ohso u r my new best friend, now when u were talkin about molasses, ii use 1/2 tbs, in a gallon, and then i should mix it with the SPT and give it that once a week? sorry for askin everything more than once, my last plant didnt do to good and i wnat to do it the best
 
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down2grow

Active Member
ohso,
Great details as always.. I'm a first time grower and you make things so easy for us noob's to understand.. The BMO nutes are coming next week and I'm getting really excited about giving the girls(crossing fingers) something other than water.. Should I give the nutes first or the STP? I will make sure to moisten my FFOF first.. I've read on here that I shouldn't add any molasses until the second week of flowering and stop two weeks before harvesting.. Whats you thought on this? Should I add some during veg?

Thanks again,
D2G
 
GrowBabyGrow41

GrowBabyGrow41

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Hey Fellow BMO'ers.. So all you guys are the reason the price has gone up as of late....Thanks alot OSG for speading the word and costing me more money!!!!!:cuss: J/K!!!!!!
The next time someone tells you you can't get the Max out of your Graden with Organics show them this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL2mnf_rfjI

WoW!!!!!!!!!! Is all I can say!!!!!!!
 
Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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down2grow said:
ohso,
Great details as always.. I'm a first time grower and you make things so easy for us noob's to understand.. The BMO nutes are coming next week and I'm getting really excited about giving the girls(crossing fingers) something other than water.. Should I give the nutes first or the STP? I will make sure to moisten my FFOF first.. I've read on here that I shouldn't add any molasses until the second week of flowering and stop two weeks before harvesting.. Whats you thought on this? Should I add some during veg?

Thanks again,
D2G
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Down2Grow.... Since, FFOF Soil already contains nutes & some myco fungi, I'd use the Grow It Green first. I'd start low, 1/4 to 1/3 of an ounce to a gallon of water. Then moisten your soil first with only plain water, 5 minutes later - come back and give them 16 ounces of your mixed up GIG solution. Pour it around, but not on your plant, in a circle about one to two inches out from the plant.
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Then in another week, I'd start the SPT. The life cycle of micro-beasties (good bacteria & myco fungi) cycles up & down with the food supply.
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I'd use the SPT it at only 1/2 ounce to one gallon of water, to avoid over populating & also give them only 16 ounces per plant the first two applications (only one time per week). FFOF is a nute rich soil and SPT can breakdown insoluble NPK quickly. You don't want too much NPK overpowering you tiny plants. But don't worry, they'll grow big soon enough.
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On the molasses issue, I use it from week 4 of veg growth, right through the 6th week of flowering. Like with all nutes or amendments start low - 1/2 ounce to one gallon of water (this makes an NPK value of about 2.5-.5-1) and work up slowly as needed. It can be mixed with the GIG, SPT or FP. But do skip it once and awhile, so Mary can thin down the nutes in the soil. So, they never build up to nute burn level.
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Hope this helps....
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Keep it Real....Organic...
 
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down2grow

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ohso,

If I'm using 1 gallon pots (small space), should I feed every 3-4 days, STP the same and just use plain water in between when needed? I know the smaller pots dry up quickly and the plants will use up the nutes faster in my case.. Also, when you said 16oz of GIG, STP, FP, is that per 1 gallon of soil? Is there a need to flush or just plain water for the last two weeks?

Thanks again for teaching this noob on how to "keep it real!"
D2G
 
Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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down2grow said:
ohso,

If I'm using 1 gallon pots (small space), should I feed every 3-4 days, STP the same and just use plain water in between when needed? I know the smaller pots dry up quickly and the plants will use up the nutes faster in my case.. Also, when you said 16oz of GIG, STP, FP, is that per 1 gallon of soil? Is there a need to flush or just plain water for the last two weeks?

Thanks again for teaching this noob on how to "keep it real!"
D2G
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Down2Grow...... You are welcome..... With most organic nutes - the rule is one quart of mixed up solution (fertilizer teas and/or tonics) per gallon of soil - per week. Water as needed.
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Since you are growing in such small pots, breaking up your feeding into two seperate 16 ounces feedings (of mixed up fertilizer solution), every 3-4 days would work well. With plain water in between, as needed, to maintain soil moisture. Then the occasional bump of SPT to keep the tribe of micro-beasties alive & well in the rootzone.
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I'd only use the SPT mixed at 1/4 ounce to a gallon of unchlorinated water and ony give your plants a 8 ounce application of this mixed up solution every 12-15 days (but not on a feeding day). The reason being, a gallon of soil in not much volume and too much of anything (even micro-beasties) will slow down growth.
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Hope this helps....
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Keep it Real...Organic.....:weed:
 
mwdtx

mwdtx

Well-Known Member
Ohsogreen said:
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Down2Grow...... You are welcome..... With most organic nutes - the rule is one quart of mixed up solution (fertilizer teas and/or tonics) per gallon of soil - per week. Water as needed.
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Since you are growing in such small pots, breaking up your feeding into two seperate 16 ounces feedings (of mixed up fertilizer solution), every 3-4 days would work well. With plain water in between, as needed, to maintain soil moisture. Then the occasional bump of SPT to keep the tribe of micro-beasties alive & well in the rootzone.
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I'd only use the SPT mixed at 1/4 ounce to a gallon of unchlorinated water and ony give your plants a 8 ounce application of this mixed up solution every 12-15 days (but not on a feeding day). The reason being, a gallon of soil in not much volume and too much of anything (even micro-beasties) will slow down growth.
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Hope this helps....
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Keep it Real...Organic.....:weed:
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so with a 2 gallon, i was gonna give it nutes once a week, spt once a week, and plain water in between, good?
 
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down2grow

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Ohso,

So the BMO nutes came in already! That was really fast service! I was wondering if I was to mix the GIG, STP, FP.. Do I have to use the mix right away or can I have a stash of premix laying around? Would the PH level of the premix go up or down after time?

D2G
 
billdo

billdo

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down2grow... in my experience the pH rose from about 4.8 with RO water to 7.0 in 24 hours.
 
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down2grow

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billdo said:
down2grow... in my experience the pH rose from about 4.8 with RO water to 7.0 in 24 hours.
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Billdo,
Wow that's a big jump in PH levels.. If it went passed 7.5, would you correct it by adding PH down every time? Does PH down hurt the premix?

Thanks
D2G
 
billdo

billdo

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That was what I tried to do... but I would over-compensate and then the next day the pH was too low.

I would recommend bringing the pH back down to 6.5 or so and then let the system bring it back down all the way. Kind of like pH inertia, I guess.

just an idea,
BILLDO
 
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