bodhi seeds

apbx720

apbx720

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st0wandgrow said:
So a question to my bodhi peeps that have done some chuckin...I am planning on making some F2's of both Lucky Charms and Satsuma. I'm wondering if I should just do an open pollination using all of the plants, or should I pick what I deem to be the best male/female and use just them, or something else?

I've asked this question in other threads and have gotten a mixed response. My inclination tells me to use only the plants that stand out, but from a genetic standpoint I don't know if that's the best approach?
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Sry if someomes already commented on this...
If it was me, stow, i would basically do an open pol, but w only the best male from each strain. So the best male of LC × whatever females u get of LC, and then do the same w satsuma (seperate round of coarse, to avoid cross pol). if it was me i would keep the seeds from each female seperate at harvest. Then u can see the results of what each female creates. just my opinion of coarse. have a great day!
 
apbx720

apbx720

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N.R.G. said:
Is this 100% accurate? We won't see Goji again? That's pretty sad if it's true. What about pure SSDD? I see a lot of crosses with it coming out, is he planning to stop putting out pure SSDD as well?
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Im afraid so. both father plants are gone. so any strains made w Snow Lotus or Appalachia will never be made again. so whatever beans are out in circulation(or in B's fridge) are all that remains. :peace:
 
Al Yamoni

Al Yamoni

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Just hit the spot... My lone orange sunshine is a lady I think.. 2 females for sure on the soulmate... 2 males possibly and 2 that haven't showed yet.

And that black lime reserve X dank Sinatra if looking good. They're small still but 1 of the 3 is so fuzzy and has some purple stem striping.

Pics later...
 
JDGreen

JDGreen

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Al Yamoni said:
Just hit the spot... My lone orange sunshine is a lady I think.. 2 females for sure on the soulmate... 2 males possibly and 2 that haven't showed yet.

And that black lime reserve X dank Sinatra if looking good. They're small still but 1 of the 3 is so fuzzy and has some purple stem striping.

Pics later...
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I also got only 1 orange sunshine, but shell b goin in soon, mayb 3wks
 
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WindShear

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Considering Bodhi's penchant for landrace collection I felt this question would be suitable for this thread. I have recently come to know a breeder who has been traveling and collecting land race seeds for at least 35 years. He has gifted me with a few seeds of a true Afghan landrace indica he calls Kabul's Ghost. Has anyone heard of this strain? I am interested in learning more about it.

Thank you!
 
COGrown

COGrown

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WindShear said:
Considering Bodhi's penchant for landrace collection I felt this question would be suitable for this thread. I have recently come to know a breeder who has been traveling and collecting land race seeds for at least 35 years. He has gifted me with a few seeds of a true Afghan landrace indica he calls Kabul's Ghost. Has anyone heard of this strain? I am interested in learning more about it.

Thank you!
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Bodhi uses a male from seeds called 'talk of kabul' that were collected by a US soldier during the early occupation, but that's the closest i've heard of. Hash Plant indicas are native all throughout that region.
 
hayrolld

hayrolld

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apbx720 said:
Sry if someomes already commented on this...
If it was me, stow, i would basically do an open pol, but w only the best male from each strain. So the best male of LC × whatever females u get of LC, and then do the same w satsuma (seperate round of coarse, to avoid cross pol). if it was me i would keep the seeds from each female seperate at harvest. Then u can see the results of what each female creates. just my opinion of coarse. have a great day!
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@st0wandgrow
I think Apbx is spot on with this - pick the best males, and let them hit all the females. I need to chime in with something - you can get hundreds of seeds from a branch or two being pollinated on each plant. I was kinda surprised how many I ended up with. Not sure how many seeds you are aiming for, but an open pollination could give you decades worth of seeds. I am sure there are plenty of folks on here that would help test though :bigjoint:
 
COGrown

COGrown

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hayrolld said:
@st0wandgrow
I think Apbx is spot on with this - pick the best males, and let them hit all the females. I need to chime in with something - you can get hundreds of seeds from a branch or two being pollinated on each plant. I was kinda surprised how many I ended up with. Not sure how many seeds you are aiming for, but an open pollination could give you decades worth of seeds. I am sure there are plenty of folks on here that would help test though :bigjoint:
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Amos Otis said:
As probably the hobbyist of the hobby chuckers, it's pretty cool to see folks give your babies a shot. Even better when they turn out fuego, con picturas ! :eyesmoke:
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Yeah, if you do open pollination you will get plenty of beans. I just sent in 250 beans to be given out as freebies and it barely visibly dented my seed jars.

On a related note, as some initial 2nd party testing is wrapping up rather positively, and I have germ tested all beans, people ordering from a certain bodhi vendor will start seeing my gifts in their orders soon.

The Apollo 11 crosses I've made have been tested outdoors by someone else, and while I don't have too much to go off of, the feedback has been positive. The Pura Vida and Snow Wookie crosses were grown and I've heard that all grew well and some, probably the Snow Wookie, were extremely fruity. However, outdoor sub-legal tester so while feedback has been positive, it's been limited.

Here are some Skunk91 f2 and GSC x Apollo 11 f4 that I have recently started, the skunk91 f2s are the older plants.
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I seem to always get 100% viability on my beans, but on most other beans as well, so that's not that much. Seeds created organically using only certified organic ingredients etc.

As far as selection goes, I recommend using multiple males for the most part, unless there is one particular pheno you are trying to preserve in your f2s. With my skunk91 f2s I wanted to find a male similar to my female keeper (the hybrid chem91 and rks pheno), and the resulting f2s have had strong resemblance to the mother and good stability across the phenos.
I had sort of the opposite goal with the Apollo 11g f4 males I selected, in which I wanted to preserve the best of the two different distinct phenos I found in the pack, a pineapple high yielding cindy-esque pheno and a melon jack herer / genius pheno.

What I recommend the most is using all your females from the pack if you haven't finished them. If any turn out undesirable, you can just toss those beans.

These days I get to make around one pollination run per year, so I have a lot of time to decide on a pack that is likely to produce an extremely winning male for me. When I was doing more trial and error growing I still only found one or two males I really wanted to work with, but now it's more of picking a bodhi strain nobody else is working with and that I want to preserve. Although I do have three packs of gear from other breeders that I want to run to find a good OG male.

One last thing, I would trash males that have either bad node spacing or really loose and airy flower clusters, but if you find one that has those traits but has others you really like (resinous, Stanky, purple, etc) you can always try to weed out the undesirable characteristics by making f3s.
 
Al Yamoni

Al Yamoni

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COGrown said:
Yeah, if you do open pollination you will get plenty of beans. I just sent in 250 beans to be given out as freebies and it barely visibly dented my seed jars.

On a related note, as some initial 2nd party testing is wrapping up rather positively, and I have germ tested all beans, people ordering from a certain bodhi vendor will start seeing my gifts in their orders soon.

The Apollo 11 crosses I've made have been tested outdoors by someone else, and while I don't have too much to go off of, the feedback has been positive. The Pura Vida and Snow Wookie crosses were grown and I've heard that all grew well and some, probably the Snow Wookie, were extremely fruity. However, outdoor sub-legal tester so while feedback has been positive, it's been limited.

Here are some Skunk91 f2 and GSC x Apollo 11 f4 that I have recently started, the skunk91 f2s are the older plants.
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I seem to always get 100% viability on my beans, but on most other beans as well, so that's not that much. Seeds created organically using only certified organic ingredients etc.

As far as selection goes, I recommend using multiple males for the most part, unless there is one particular pheno you are trying to preserve in your f2s. With my skunk91 f2s I wanted to find a male similar to my female keeper (the hybrid chem91 and rks pheno), and the resulting f2s have had strong resemblance to the mother and good stability across the phenos.
I had sort of the opposite goal with the Apollo 11g f4 males I selected, in which I wanted to preserve the best of the two different distinct phenos I found in the pack, a pineapple high yielding cindy-esque pheno and a melon jack herer / genius pheno.

What I recommend the most is using all your females from the pack if you haven't finished them. If any turn out undesirable, you can just toss those beans.

These days I get to make around one pollination run per year, so I have a lot of time to decide on a pack that is likely to produce an extremely winning male for me. When I was doing more trial and error growing I still only found one or two males I really wanted to work with, but now it's more of picking a bodhi strain nobody else is working with and that I want to preserve. Although I do have three packs of gear from other breeders that I want to run to find a good OG male.

One last thing, I would trash males that have either bad node spacing or really loose and airy flower clusters, but if you find one that has those traits but has others you really like (resinous, Stanky, purple, etc) you can always try to weed out the undesirable characteristics by making f3s.
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hayrolld

hayrolld

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COGrown said:
Yeah, if you do open pollination you will get plenty of beans. I just sent in 250 beans to be given out as freebies and it barely visibly dented my seed jars.

On a related note, as some initial 2nd party testing is wrapping up rather positively, and I have germ tested all beans, people ordering from a certain bodhi vendor will start seeing my gifts in their orders soon.

The Apollo 11 crosses I've made have been tested outdoors by someone else, and while I don't have too much to go off of, the feedback has been positive. The Pura Vida and Snow Wookie crosses were grown and I've heard that all grew well and some, probably the Snow Wookie, were extremely fruity. However, outdoor sub-legal tester so while feedback has been positive, it's been limited.

Here are some Skunk91 f2 and GSC x Apollo 11 f4 that I have recently started, the skunk91 f2s are the older plants.
View attachment 3816769
I seem to always get 100% viability on my beans, but on most other beans as well, so that's not that much. Seeds created organically using only certified organic ingredients etc.

As far as selection goes, I recommend using multiple males for the most part, unless there is one particular pheno you are trying to preserve in your f2s. With my skunk91 f2s I wanted to find a male similar to my female keeper (the hybrid chem91 and rks pheno), and the resulting f2s have had strong resemblance to the mother and good stability across the phenos.
I had sort of the opposite goal with the Apollo 11g f4 males I selected, in which I wanted to preserve the best of the two different distinct phenos I found in the pack, a pineapple high yielding cindy-esque pheno and a melon jack herer / genius pheno.

What I recommend the most is using all your females from the pack if you haven't finished them. If any turn out undesirable, you can just toss those beans.

These days I get to make around one pollination run per year, so I have a lot of time to decide on a pack that is likely to produce an extremely winning male for me. When I was doing more trial and error growing I still only found one or two males I really wanted to work with, but now it's more of picking a bodhi strain nobody else is working with and that I want to preserve. Although I do have three packs of gear from other breeders that I want to run to find a good OG male.

One last thing, I would trash males that have either bad node spacing or really loose and airy flower clusters, but if you find one that has those traits but has others you really like (resinous, Stanky, purple, etc) you can always try to weed out the undesirable characteristics by making f3s.
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Fantastic answer! My theory has always been sexy mom + sexy dad = extra sexy baby cross. My experience is the mom is a lot easier to find. Fun to try, pollen chucks really make you appreciate how much bodhi and other breeders put in time and selection wise. Hopefully I see your crosses on the next glg offers :clap:
 
COGrown

COGrown

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hayrolld said:
Fantastic answer! My theory has always been sexy mom + sexy dad = extra sexy baby cross. My experience is the mom is a lot easier to find. Fun to try, pollen chucks really make you appreciate how much bodhi and other breeders put in time and selection wise. Hopefully I see your crosses on the next glg offers :clap:
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Oh, it's not GLG. I don't want to say it is certain until they are safe and ready, but if all goes well they will be at headiegardens first.
I like GLG, a lot, but I am fairly certain that they have a heavy supply of in house freebies. I mean, my last one from them was a 10 or 12 pack of SFV x Long bottom Leaf, and I can't compete with that...
I'll be crossing my next choice male to gg#4, Pinesoul, GSC, and the females from my seed run. Maybe a couple extra choice clones if I can squeeze em. Once i'm done with that I would like to see some of those at GLG.
I've also snagged some extra space to run gear in, and will be doing a high-cbd run using a couple high CBD clones and Bodhi's Nepali OG x Good Medicine. But I am just starting that next week.
And you can't go wrong with sexy mom + sexy dad, but it's not how you would want to preserve a line in the general sense, more how to create something new and distinct with your f1+ beans. I think there is more than enough room in the world for both filial 'preservation' style breeding and what is called 'pollen chucking' as both have their own benefits.
*Stardawg shatter got me wordy today*
 
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