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jimmy311

jimmy311

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Well gotta buy ducting cuz its fixed ilon there can't move it up or down..that's why there growing slow? The algea too I had.
fml
Tryna get it dialed in perfect..its a struggle for me with a FD up back.. Three herniated discs in my spine sux
 
jimmy311

jimmy311

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greasemonkeymann said:
doesn't matter, those have established roots enough to benefit from the light being closer, assuming they aren't freshly cloned/transplanted.
cannabis can take a LOT of light before having issues, it's always the TEMP thats is the limiting factor
gotta remember they germinate outside naturally, and that light is a candle compared to the suns output, and the sun doesn't kill em.
Those back two plants are pretty small, so depending on what their history.
'either way though you want that WAY closer my man
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There small cuz their young and algea wasn't letting them get bigger..making my pH shoot up...fixed the light leaks tho..checked with sunlight and led flash light..sprayed spots I missed ..now gnats are driving me crazy.. There ain't many but I don't want none..lol buying traps and gnatrol and oh ducting.. EBay's I can get 16' cheap...anyone need 5-8' of ducting?? Lol
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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jimmy311 said:
So keep my Mh build in for whole grow???
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do you have both?
or JUST a mh?
using just a mh will give you a smaller yield, the best is to mix them.
if I had to choose only ONE lamp, i'd choose a HPS for flowering.
BUT NOTHING beats using both (in my opinion/experience)
in fact the best is a 2/1 ratio of hps to MH
but a 1/1 is damn nice also
the best herb I ever grew was with two 600 hps and a 400Mh in the middle
-- I feel ya on the bad back--
had surgery yrs ago, ruptured disk, two herniated, stenosis, etc.
back throbs all day, every day...
 
kmog33

kmog33

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greasemonkeymann said:
well the lumen difference between a 600 hps and a 600 mh is HUGE..
just hard to say how the plants respond to that.
the 10k 600 I got is BRIGHT AS FUCK...
to my naked eye it's WAY brighter than the 600 hps..
but not according to the lumen output, but like I said, much of that isn't useable
it's simply like the age-old organic vs chem grows.
TRY THEM BOTH AND DECIDE
It's allllll preference...
for me?
a leaf-compost, meal based mix, organically grown, water only, using both a mh and a hps is exactly what my preference has led me to
JUST what I like, catered to me.
knowing mad Hamish (via the internet that is) I think he probably had the temps under control, he is a good grower, just perplexed as to why the large dropoff.
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10k is the right spectrum for corals not weed lol. I experimented with 10k and got odd deficiencies in veg and not a whole lot of flowering node growth. As I said, spectrum will make up for some of the lack of light output, but hps is a source that puts out so much light that enough of is useable that mh can't compete watt for watt yield wise. I prefer the buds mh produces though. I'm willing to sacrifice yield for quality, but not all are.


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luv2grow

luv2grow

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6 blue 6 red bongsmilie
greasemonkeymann said:
I just urge ANY grower that's using two ballasts, to at least give it a try.
It's just the cost of the bulb, as nowdays the digi ballasts can fire both
so like a 75 dollar bulb is WELL worth it.
and once you try it?
my bet is that you won't go back
It's less than a hundred dollar investment
You'd thank me afterwards (course I woulda thought mad Hamish would have liked the results)
sorry for the triple-post fellas... I hate doing the multi-quote response
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I've always used uvb supplement bulbs instead of the mh. I grabbed a 72ook just because I wanted to keep the same uvb cycle as last round but utilize my spare 600 digi. I like the dual spectrum. way more relaxing in their now.So i'm sure our little carbon based friends like it as well. flipping bulbs once a week is doable in my eyes. plus I have 5 feet of travel on one of the lights so it hits the lower growth on the tall plants. Glad I'm on the right track tell these cobs are built out.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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jimmy311 said:
There small cuz their young and algea wasn't letting them get bigger..making my pH shoot up...fixed the light leaks tho..checked with sunlight and led flash light..sprayed spots I missed ..now gnats are driving me crazy.. There ain't many but I don't want none..lol buying traps and gnatrol and oh ducting.. EBay's I can get 16' cheap...anyone need 5-8' of ducting?? Lol
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if there is algae, it may be too damp, which also makes the acidity go up.
Try spinosad for the gnats, or the mosquito dunks.
layer of diatamecous earth on top works well too, so does horticultural sand
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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kmog33 said:
10k is the right spectrum for corals not weed lol. I experimented with 10k and got odd deficiencies in veg and not a whole lot of flowering node growth. As I said, spectrum will make up for some of the lack of light output, but hps is a source that puts out so much light that enough of is useable that mh can't compete watt for watt yield wise. I prefer the buds mh produces though. I'm willing to sacrifice yield for quality, but not all are.


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THE 10k, not 10k as the wavelength
heres the spectrum.
10kspectrum.png
 
jimmy311

jimmy311

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greasemonkeymann said:
do you have both?
or JUST a mh?
using just a mh will give you a smaller yield, the best is to mix them.
if I had to choose only ONE lamp, i'd choose a HPS for flowering.
BUT NOTHING beats using both (in my opinion/experience)
in fact the best is a 2/1 ratio of hps to MH
but a 1/1 is damn nice also
the best herb I ever grew was with two 600 hps and a 400Mh in the middle
-- I feel ya on the bad back--
had surgery yrs ago, ruptured disk, two herniated, stenosis, etc.
back throbs all day, every day...
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I got both bulbs bro.IMG_20160309_174556594_HDR.jpg
And i grow in both soil and water..
I use mh first then 13/11 HPs(not alota ppl know bout the 13/11hrs for flowering. Jus learned it..gonna try it..will save a hr of energy too..lol $$
U can see I havent grown in a min..the dust..lol
Mine too
 
pnwmystery

pnwmystery

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I've been playing with a dual arc bulb (600W HPS filament and a 400W MH filament in the same bulb) against a 1000W. Not too much noticeable difference, but my Tranquil Elephantizer RemixV2 seems to love the dual arc. Nanolux now has a dual double ended fixture lol 600W HPS alongside a 600W MH.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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kmog33 said:
Oh lol. I use a 10k metal halide on my fish tank. But it's referring to the spectrum so I though that's what you were talking about. My bad.


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haha... yeaaaa.... that wouldn't grow much...
sorta like a low pressure sodium lamp, those put out more lumens than any other HID... but in the wrong damn spectrum
sodium vapors are efficient as hell too, but again.. wrong spectrum
 
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