Boneman's AK47/PPP Hempy side by side

dum

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I thought having a green thumb was just a myth but you are amazing, 16 GRAMS WET WEIGHT IS AMAZING.

you just mad my day.
 

dum

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also, when do you know when to harvest?

I know it's when the trichomes turn from clear to cloudy to amber but how do you know
when they are amber?

is it really obvious because I think mine are cloudy but I can't tell. even zoomed in really far.

would it be possible for you to take a really close picture?

I know I ask a lot.
 

Boneman

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also, when do you know when to harvest?

I know it's when the trichomes turn from clear to cloudy to amber but how do you know
when they are amber?

is it really obvious because I think mine are cloudy but I can't tell. even zoomed in really far.

would it be possible for you to take a really close picture?

I know I ask a lot.
What kind of scope do you use? I have both a 30x jewelers loupe and a 420 scope. I use the 420 scope on 60x to see cloudy/amber/clear trics. Once I see an amber one, I use the 30x jewlers loupe to get a bigger view to determine %. I place a small tric filled leaf (the ones right up next to the bud) on a dark surface. I use a magazine with a black cover. Then I find a spot where the sun is shining in the window and examine the leaf to determine the % of amber to cloudy. Thats really the only way I can see the trics. I cannot do it unless I cut a piece off and examine it.

I dont have the ability to take one of those crazy tric pics...sorry Dum :( I would if i could though.
 

Boneman

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Ooh yeah Dum....That one bud from Zena was 15.69g. That will come out to about 6g dry.


I also transferred all my buds from Svetlana into a 70oz "rubber sealed" glass jar I bought at walmart tonight. They had been drying for 6 days now. 3 hanging, 3 in a brown paper bag. I like the glass jar cuz its big enough for me to stick my hand into it.


 

dum

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wow, thats some intense magnification.
I took apart some 4 x 30 binoculars and
just look at the buds on the plant. I get
some pretty good magnification, I can't
fit a red hair inside my viewing. How
much did all that cost? I still need a
digital timer.

Also, I thought you were supposed to let
them hang upside down for about ten days,
I've never heard of using a paper bag. I
guess that once the bud is dry it dosn't
matter where it goes and they dry really
quick.
 

KiloBit

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I hope Pam come out half as good as Zena. Again, good job bro. Now I can't wait till you tell me how she smokes. Awesome.bongsmilie
 

Boneman

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wow, thats some intense magnification.
I took apart some 4 x 30 binoculars and
just look at the buds on the plant. I get
some pretty good magnification, I can't
fit a red hair inside my viewing. How
much did all that cost? I still need a
digital timer.

Also, I thought you were supposed to let
them hang upside down for about ten days,
I've never heard of using a paper bag. I
guess that once the bud is dry it dosn't
matter where it goes and they dry really
quick.
You can get a 30x jewlers loupe on ebay for around $10 and a 60-100x scope from radio shack for less than $20. Try cutting off a small piece of leaf that is covered in trics and look at just that. No reason to look at the pistals (red/wht/brn hairs).

Drying is easy but easy to screw up too. Under ideal conditions they hang until they reach a certain moisture content then its off to curing jars. Its easy to over dry or under dry and both have their own problems. In my case with svetlana, the weather turned extremely WET!! for several days and humidity was very very high. I had to move them into a better controlled drying atmosphere with dehumidifier and the paper bag method or I could have ended up with rot and mold. It worked like a charm and they are now nestled in a nice big curing jar.
 

dum

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I've never really thought about it but your right, you can over dry.
I have a pretty good spot to dry, it's in my attic, always dark, good
ventilation and not very humid. the only problem is the temp. could
drop to below freezing for a little while, maybe 3 nights. One thing
I read in a grow guide (I think it was on "1stmarijuanagrowerspage")
is that you could cure in a freezer with a little bit of dry ice. Have
you heard anything about this?

When will the smoke report come?
 

Boneman

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I've never really thought about it but your right, you can over dry.
I have a pretty good spot to dry, it's in my attic, always dark, good
ventilation and not very humid. the only problem is the temp. could
drop to below freezing for a little while, maybe 3 nights. One thing
I read in a grow guide (I think it was on "1stmarijuanagrowerspage")
is that you could cure in a freezer with a little bit of dry ice. Have
you heard anything about this?

When will the smoke report come?
The only thing I ever heard about weed and freezers is they dont mix. Freezing makes the trics brittle and they can easily break off the bud.

Smoke report should come pretty soon...Maybe even tonight :)
 

Boneman

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how did your plants grow all their leaves so fast my three purple kush have only 4 leaves
I was talking about the day 15 pic it must be the perlite
I'm following now. Actually growth was pretty much non existant until about that time. That's when the tap root finally hit the reservior and growth really took off.
There is zero nutrient value in perlite, it's just there for root system support. The plant gets all its hydration and nutrients from the reservior and what little it can hold on too during watering/feeding.
 

atomica92

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okay...I know perlite was a nuetral just didn't know how well it supported root systems,either way nice growing Boneman let us know how it turns out
 

doogleef

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:shock::shock:

Damn nice for a 400W my friend. :hump:A bit slow to pop but WOW. I will check back often. Hopefully you get some more amber from that PPP and the AK keeps quite a bit of the wet weight. Keep on growin' man. Clones in this system would really be interesting. :joint::joint:
 

Boneman

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Thanks doogleef :joint:
I'm not sure how closely you read the thread, but my AK showed sex about a month into veg! I was stoked to say the least. I gambled and only germ'd one AK seed. I already knew my PPP was a girl (fem seed) so at that point I took 3 clones from each plant. Unfortunately, I had to leave them unattended for a couple days and they didnt make it. :( I was not preparing to do clones this grow but at the last minute I decided too and it turned out fatal.
My PPP went under the scope again this morning and still no amber...maybe a hint of turning amber but not much.

Thanks for stopping by :hump:
 

Boneman

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Hey boney, think that growth spurt might be causing a slower flowering?
Dude, I dont know man. All I know is that she still glistenens and still seems to be developing. Mostly cloudy trics so I guess I'll just wait another week or so before I break out the scissors.
 

Boneman

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Svet (AK47) has been drying and just started curing and I snuck off a litte piece of popcorn nugg. You know the ones that dry out long before the others? Yesterday was my sample, WOW! this is potent. I was quite surprised after taking a few tokes and being knocked on my pooper. This is gonna be some 1 hit wonder when its finally done :)

Zena (PPP) has been hanging for a few days. Remember that 16g branch I plucked off the other day? Yup, one of the lil nuggs but this one was still a little damp but after 3 hits in the bowl, I have a fantastic "up" high :joint:
It definately tasted better than the AK...but they are in two different stages of dry/cure.

Summary: They are both fantastic at this early stage and I cant wait to give another report around xmas time. :peace: out
 
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