Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

Hey Bob,

You have Co2 in bottle now and your loking at changing it to gas?
Is that right? If so why?

I was going to order the EZClone Machine ( you turned me off that idea ).
I cant work out what im doing wrong with my bubble cloner.
I took cuttings and put some in rockwool on a heat mat ( standard ).
&
Put some in rockwool in the bubble cloning machine.
Most of the cuttings that were on the heat mat have rooted. (7 out of 12)
& only about 3 out of 35 have rooted in the bubble cloner......

I like your work Bob!!!

Indefinately said:

Hey Bob,

You have Co2 in bottle now and your loking at changing it to gas?
Is that right? If so why?

I was going to order the EZClone Machine ( you turned me off that idea ).
I cant work out what im doing wrong with my bubble cloner.
I took cuttings and put some in rockwool on a heat mat ( standard ).
&
Put some in rockwool in the bubble cloning machine.
Most of the cuttings that were on the heat mat have rooted. (7 out of 12)
& only about 3 out of 35 have rooted in the bubble cloner......

I like your work Bob!!!

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I got rid of the bottled CO2 during my first grow in this space - I'm a pretty lazy motherfucker, and lugging 3 20# tanks every few weeks was not something that I wanted to continue doing - if you're currently using gas and don't mind having to refill the tank(s), then I'd just stay with it.

I then changed from propane to natural gas because I wanted to make sure I'd never run out and to make refilling propane tanks a thing of the past.

And don't let me turn you off to the EZ Clone - lotsa people have great success with them, and I think that I would as well if my temps were decent - they're ~85F in the tent right now, which is obviously too hot but is what it is until they're out of their temporary home and into the garage.

If your temps are fine where you are and you have a chiller, then I think the EZ would work fine for you.

As far as your bubble cloner, you can't use rockwool in it - the rockwool will stay SOAKED and choke off the oxygen available to the rootzone.

You need to use neoprene disks (or something that serves a similar purpose - people have used styrofoam bowls and shit like that) to support the clones.

I made one and it worked fine (and I can pretty much fuck up any DWC endeavor), so it's pretty easy - there's pics and a tutorial way earlier in the journal (post #47).

Thanks Bob

I will start reading this thread from the beggining and see how far i can get today.......

1) Am I installing this insulation correctly? I have the unfaced side laying on the plywood and the faced side up in the air - is this correct or the opposite of correct? Not gonna change the three rows I've already done, but I can switch it up for the rest if it's incorrect.

FYI, it's R-19 insulation and 6" thick, which is why you see it sticking so far above the 2x4s.

Shooting to be done the ceiling by tomorrow, then it's just a day of drywall and time to start moving stuff in there.

2) Have never used a chiller before (I'm back on the recirculating system and off the drain to waste idea - I know myself and know that I won't enjoy cleaning/disposing of 150 gallons+ of media each run) and am wondering what size I need for a 60-70 gallon recirculating reservoir.

Don't want it to be undersized and running constantly, but don't wanna get something I don't need like a 1 or 1/2HP model which would need its own dedicated circuit and only run for 3 seconds every day.

I'm thinking I either need a 1/10 or 1/4HP model - anyone got any input?

Ceiling is 80% done, so I'm gonna finish that up tomorrow morning and then plywood the wall (said fuck drywall because I don't have a truck to bring it home in).

Assuming I finish that by early afternoon, then I just need to frame out the garage door (easier said than done, I'm sure) and plywood that.

Shooting to be filling in cracks with Great Stuff and PUTTING UP PANDA TOMORROW NIGHT!!!!!!!!!

THEN INSTALLING SHIT (AC, hot water heater) ON WEDNESDAY!!!!!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and I'm gonna order my wyes from Home Depot tomorrow - not doing 84, doing 96 now and not leaving an opening for me to access the interior.

Shit's about to start getting fucking real in there.

In no particular order, I ran a 12 gauge cord to my room (the third 20 amp circuit), installed most of the ceiling, exhaust for AC, and moved the light down that was hanging in there down so I can actually use it in my room.

Oh, ALSO REALIZED THAT I HAVE ANOTHER 15 AMPS SITTING IN MY ROOM THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IF I NEED IT.

Hey Bob

Looking good, hope you dont need to move in a hurry.....LOL
Your insulation is the correct way up.
Work never ends!

Indefinately, you ain't lying about the work never ending - and no, we own this house, so we'll have plenty of notice for when we leave - I'll just run to Home Depot and pickup some workers and pay them $500 or $1000 and tell them to empty it out when it's time.

Didn't wake up til noon because I haven't slept for a week because I've been so focused on this project, so went shopping for all the materials I'm gonna need.

Left the house at 1, and got home 5 hours later after stopping at four Home Depots - you should see the kinda looks you get from people when you ask for 100 PVC wyes.

Also, included some pics of the actual plants (go figure) - they're ready to give me 120 clones, so I either need to get a chiller ASAP or I'm just gonna clone them into Jiffy pellets, but they need to get rocking ASAP.

Also, there's a pic of the three Ice seedlings I started a couple weeks ago.

And then there's the 6 sheets of plywood that I had cut in half (so now there's 12) to be able to transport them.

And of course three boxes of fittings and a small mountain of loose fittings.

Still not sure if I'm gonna go with 4 600s or 3 600s inside the octagon, and still not sure how tall it's gonna be or if I'm going to leave a side open for access.

FYI, if I go with 3 then I'll use the 4th over my 4x4 E&F tray and run a concurrent horizontal grow.

Also not sure if I'm gonna need a cooltube or if I can get away with bare bulbs.

Decisions, decisions.

Love your work Bob,

Im anxious to see your "project" complete.....
No wonder you cant sleep.

I would sugest you used cool tube's so you can get the lights as close as possible to the plants.

What is the diametre of your octagon?
Have you sketched it out?

Indefinately, I haven't sketched it out, but this guy basically did all the work for me:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=17863

His was 4 levels tall, and seven sided (2 plants per level, per side, so he had 56 sites).

Mine will be either five or six levels tall (if five, I'll use 3 600s, if 6 levels, probably use all four 600s), and I'm going to have all eight sides encircling the light - if I need access to the interior, I'll just crawl in through the bottom.

I'm also using 4" PVC as opposed to the 3" that he used, so the diameter will be 5'+ (probably about 62 or 63 inches) as opposed to the 5' that his is with the 3" fittings.

I went with the 4" because I've never heard of plants complaining about more root space

BTW, thanks for stopping by and for the compliments - gonna check out your grow(s) now.

Bob Smith said:

Indefinately, I haven't sketched it out, but this guy basically did all the work for me:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=17863

His was 4 levels tall, and seven sided (2 plants per level, per side, so he had 56 sites).

Mine will be either five or six levels tall (if five, I'll use 3 600s, if 6 levels, probably use all four 600s), and I'm going to have all eight sides encircling the light - if I need access to the interior, I'll just crawl in through the bottom.

I'm also using 4" PVC as opposed to the 3" that he used, so the diameter will be 5'+ (probably about 62 or 63 inches) as opposed to the 5' that his is with the 3" fittings.

I went with the 4" because I've never heard of plants complaining about more root space

BTW, thanks for stopping by and for the compliments - gonna check out your grow(s) now.

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Sounds like your going in on this one gonig to check your progress
nice setup bro..

Took 144 clones today - jiffy pellets and humidity dome.

They're currently under my 400 (I know, not great but I'm too lazy to setup my fluros for what will only be a couple of days) - I've rooted clones under my 400 before, so I'm not too worried about it.

Also bought this 1/15HP chiller for my EZ Cloner (I'm fickle, duh).

Going to buy a 1/8 HP chiller tomorrow with an attached UV filter for my main system.

Hey Bob

How long dod it take you to do your cuttings?

Indefinately, took me about an hour in total work time, but that's not including a half hour lunch break in the middle of the "hour".

Had to drive through two states to get this chiller:

http://www.marinedepot.com/1_8HP_TEC...P94510-vi.html

1) Bought the 1/8HP chiller (how should I clean this nasty saltwater shit off it?)
2) 50 feet of panda
3) Three gallons of GH - the micro is "hardwater", specially designed for tap water like mine
4) CAP timer - the baddest of badass - didn't get the 1 minute on/4 minutes off one - got the one that's adjustable to the second so I can run 15 seconds on/45 seconds off and shit like that. Pimp.
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics....ion-p-541.html
5) Can filter for my drying box I'm going to construct
6) 3" netpots

Oh, can I use pond pumps for the chillers instead of the inline mag pumps that aquarium people seem to use? Since the pumps are always going to be on, I'd rather use my pond pumps which draw ~30 watts versus a 180 watt inline pump - the GPH is rated fairly similar (675 vs. 633 for my pond pump).

WTF did RIU do to your post(s) Bob? I got a lot of catching up to do here. How ya been man?

statik said:

WTF did RIU do to your post(s) Bob? I got a lot of catching up to do here. How ya been man?

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Hey hey, look who it is - what's good?

I've been all right, just trying to get this project off the ground..........and I meant to mention something when I first noticed it a few posts ago - it's when I post my pics that that happens - I fixed it the first time, but the last couple I've been in a bit of a rush.

I'll try to fix it going forward.

Hey Bob what is your temps and your humid for your clones Im having trouble cloning for a while now, I keep my temps at like 79-83F & humid around 40-50% what you think?

Humidity should be 100% until they've rooted.

Knickers said:

Humidity should be 100% until they've rooted.

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How in the hell do you keep the humid 100% all the time???? The highiest I can get them is 60% and thats for a few minetes WHat about temps

Humidity dome, as simple as a clear plastic cup. If you don't have one then you need to refresh the dry leaves with a spray bottle, multiple times a day to start with.

Don, pretty much what Knickers said.

One of my humidity domes fits flush on the tray and one doesn't (they haven't been treated that well since I got an EZ Cloner), so I spray that tray every day for a minute to keep humidity up.

If you didn't want to use a humidity dome, go with a bubble cloner or an EZ Clone - faster roots and no need for a humidity dome (assuming you don't fry them like I did with my EZ Cloner).

I did a step by step bubble cloner post all the way back at the beginnning - I wanna say post #41 or somewhere around there.

EDIT: Actually post #47