Bubbleponics Pump and Feeder Tubes

Good info rose, I ask because I may leave them unattended for 3 days soon.
I may need someone to top off for me, perhaps with just water, through the rubber hose out of the tap I'm at 6.4 PH. So that should be simple enough for someone to just add water.
it's strange that with out the hose it's 7.1-7.3, with the hose it's 6.4-6.5

My tap water is also a lower pH if it runs through the hose.

ya thats normal...i dn why it does that either but actually IMO thats a good thing cus i usually end up knocking down my ph from the nutes i use so i actually dont hafta waste much ph down. except during the week for slight ph adjustments...but litterally when i do a DNR when i add the correct amount of nutes my ph ends up at 6.0 from the nutrients which is great lol

This is 4 weeks flowering 3 white widows.
Trichromes are present however not very visible in the pics.
I am kinda worried about them. It's strange, they streched some today.
I thought that part was over. The troublesome part is they only drank 1/2 gallon of water today,
they have been drinking 1 gallon a day for a few weeks now.

WEll, I am jealous and wish I was where you are.

You're a week to two weeks ahaead of me, I think, in Flowering.

Here are my 3 ladies 37 days into flower.
Not much else to say, things are going great. Res temp is a steady 68-72 F, I know this is kind of high but I'm going with it. The plants are doing great, don't fix it if it isn't broke.
PH is stable at 5.9-6.2, I haven't used PH down for like 2 weeks now. I guess the rubber hose "trick" and the nutes keep it optimal.
I got this TDS meter I barely use. I decided to check it last night and I was suprised to find it at 1690 ppm.
Are my girls pigs? I thought that was pretty high.
There is some yellowing/browning upward curling of the leaf tips I think due to over feeding. It's minimal and I'm going to keep pushing them. I'm getting the hang of this now and I've even been topping off with nutes and additives which I've read is not advised but they seem to be loving every minute of it.
Anyway here are the pics. Sorry if a couple come out blurry.
Note the one top is very thin and it doesn't look like it's gonna plump up.
I hope it does. Approaching the finish line gets me more excited every day.

Good Gosh, infexion1134, those are pretty!

And your posts are a fine example of a man has to learn his pot, and learn his grow and feel for what they need. I too have a ppm meter and I do not let it tell me when to feed or how much. I watch those tips of the leaves, I smell my plants and I watch for water consumption.

You've grown to be a a fine grower, and a very knowlegable grower too.

blueybong said:

Dude, those are some sweet buds!! And I see you're flowering with a 600W HPS, nice! I just picked up a 600W yesterday and after seeing your pics, I'm glad I did.

Keep it up!!!

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Thanks bluey, Yeah this 600 is great. However I think my next purchase will be a cool tube because this light gets pretty hot.

Things are still going great, the plants are doing their thing. They always drink 1 gallon of water a day, a few times they have only drank half a gallon. It concerned me at first but they seem ok. The past 3 days they have only drank half a gallon a day, now it's concerning me again. Is this normal? Do you think they are just well off and don't need to drink that much anymore because they have what they need? I don't wanna get paranoid about it, as I said they look fantastic but of course on close inspection you see slight yellowing/curling of the leaf tips. So what do you guys think of this? Has anyone experienced this? It's day 43 of flower.

Wow you and I are within 1 day of eachother. How is your humidity? If it's high, they will drink less water. My plants have also started drinking slightly less water so I don't see any reason to worry unless they are showing signs of damage. They look completely healthy in your last pic.

Thanks for stopping in Lt.
Yeah you make a good point on the humidity, I never considered that.
The humidity has been 40-50%, perhaps a bit to high.
I'm gonna post some more pics tomorrow.
I didn't notice any signifigant growth this last week but it's kinda hard to tell as I look at them several times a day.

Well here are the pics I took today, I'm hoping some of them thinner buds will fill out.
I have the biggest one with the net cup tilted as far as I can get it and I have her tied at an angle.
Her side shoots are almost as fat as the main cola and they are taller than the main stalk. 55 inches at the tallest point not including the resevoir.
I'm waiting for them to really start swelling, I still see all white hairs. There is a couple brownish hairs on the runt.
I want to ramp up the nutes/additives because I think they can handle more. I'm not sure how to go about this. I was thinking of trying 1/4 above normal with BC Boost and BC Bloom and see how they react. What do you guys think? This is uncharted territory for me.

Buds look VERY good my friend.


I got a question for you.

I see you have a 600 hps with the open hood.

hows the heating problems?
i want to get a 400hps with the same roof design but am wondering about the heat!

EarthBrite said:

Buds look VERY good my friend.


I got a question for you.

I see you have a 600 hps with the open hood.

hows the heating problems?
i want to get a 400hps with the same roof design but am wondering about the heat!

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Heat is a slight issue but not to serious. After being on all day room temps about 80F and res temp is about 72F. As I said a little high, I was considering a cool tube but I don't really have anywhere to vent the heat.
My light is as high up as I can get it now and the tallest point on my plant has some light burn. She's just to big now she'll have to deal with it. Aside from that she is very healthy.
I think an open hood 400 will not cause to much problems with heat. Considering the 600 is managable.
I think a 1000 is were you need to worry about heat.

Well at res change I always remove the lid with the plants in it and place it on an empty res while I dump and if neccesary clean the res.
The girls are to big for this method now, as I learned today.
I have such a tilt in the net cup on my biggest plant when I put them in the empty res the cup slipped and the plant fell taking her 2 sisters down with her. Hydroton everywhere, panic set in but I think I sorted them all out now.
I have the biggest one tied to the wall and I used some zip ties to secure her other branches. I had some small breakage of some under growth but I'm not gonna stress that.
Now I need to figure a different way to do res change. I read Rosemans thread and see he uses his water pump and a tube to empty the res. I'm going to try this method next res change however I'm worried because I won't be able to get all the water out or the sediment build up on the bottom.
I will post some pics of there new "arrangement" later tonight.
All the movement stunk up the house and wow it's nice. They smell great but I had to crank up the ONA odor control bucket (thanks Rose!) with some extra ONA to diminish the smell.

As you get near the end of the grow, you do not have to be as particular as you did in the beginning. You do not have to be so clean and neat, or worry about temps or humdity as much, as you did in the VEG Cycle and the first few weeks of Flowering. I have two weeks remaining and if I did get root rot, or over feed and get nute burn, or algae in my tank...........I don't care. I am going to kill them in two weeks anyway.

I lower my pump so the in-take hole is right flat on the bottom, and it sucks up almost all of it, then I add two gallons and suck that out again rinising the bottom.

I was much more particular in VEG and first few weeks of flowering and I really cleaned the tank out good, then.
It doesn't matter as much now. It would be very difficult to kill them by mistake.


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After posting this, I had 2nd thoughts. You do want to try and continue to have the best environment for your plants as you can provide. And you do want to coninue to try and be particular and neat and clean too. For the largest yield and best potency, we should try to be as neat and clean as possible.

Roseman said:

I lower my pump so the in-take hole is right flat on the bottom, and it sucks up almost all of it, then I add two gallons and suck that out again rinising the bottom.

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That makes perfect sense. Sometimes it just doesn't "click" with me. The simplest solutions to problems escape me. Thanks Roseman.
I didn't get to the pics before lights out so I'll post some tomorrow.

I do remove the water pump Filter Cover and filter when I use it to drain my tank.

I don't think them falling was actually that serious, they are fine now. I tied the big one to the wall and used zip ties to secure her other branches.
Here are some pics.