Buds looking good but what is happening with the leafs?

Alexander Supertramp

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I think my ph is far off but i don't really know how to low the soil ph. I've tried only flushing with ph'd water and that's cause a friend told me that this is the way to change soil's ph...
Nope. Thats a myth. You can pour all the pHed water you want through your medium and your not going to change its pH much, if any. By the looks of your plants pH is not the issue. And the 6-3-6 would be just fine to use, actually should do quite nicely. What micros and trace elements if any does it contain?
 
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Nope. Thats a myth. You can pour all the pHed water you want through your medium and your not going to change its pH much, if any. By the looks of your plants pH is not the issue. And the 6-3-6 would be just fine to use, actually should do quite nicely. What micros and trace elements if any does it contain?
It has 0.02% of Zn ,Fe and bor, Cu-0.002%, , Mn-0.015% ,Mo-0.002%,
 

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You had over-fert in the beginning. The leaves are too dark and glossy to not have over-fert. In your second set you can see the nitrogen deficiency, possible K deficiency with the necrotic spotting. The tip burn from the over-fert is still present. If I had that problem I would spray water to leach the leaves (3xday or whaev), and flush the pots. Get some botanicare fert and feed 500 ppm at 6.2. - but do this feeding after you see the glossy green lighten up in color.
Ithink that I over-fert from the beginning, cause the soil mix had nutes in it and the soil was'nt the best for me. Ph range 5-6.5 and i doon't know how got that far with the ph...And 1 more thing...I can't use the 6-3-6 nutrient 'cause i'll burn the plant right now, I used the 2-2-4 already 2 days ago and 1 week ago i've flushed the plant...I have other 2 that don't look that bad but i don't know what strain they are...
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Ithink that I over-fert from the beginning, cause the soil mix had nutes in it and the soil was'nt the best for me. Ph range 5-6.5 and i doon't know how got that far with the ph...And 1 more thing...I can't use the 6-3-6 nutrient 'cause i'll burn the plant right now, I used the 2-2-4 already 2 days ago and 1 week ago i've flushed the plant...I have other 2 that don't look that bad but i don't know what strain they are...
Just learn to read your plants, which will come with grows and experience, feed them each according to their needs. Its an annual plain and simple. The only difficult part in growing them is not to fall into the so called "cannabis specific nutes and bloom foods" group. And not to kill them with too much love. Its weed, very capable of taking care of itself given what it needs. Also forgot about reading runoff pH. It will only cause headaches.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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2-2-4 or 6-3-6, dosent matter, you can burn with both. Learning the basics is key. http://scienceinhydroponics.com/2010/08/the-npk-mistery-what-do-these-numbers-mean-and-how-are-they-calculated.html I know you are growing soil. But still what the link says applies. And also helps explain IMO why applying forum knowledge, which is based on hydro, fast growth, big yield. There are a few things in common. But the difference between growing in soil and water are as different as night and day. Soil growers try to apply hydro principles and only cause themselves heartache.
 
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I grow organically... In other words, my soil contains everything the plants need. Clear water right out of the faucet (ph 7.14 ppm 180) all the way to day 47 of flower before they start to fade. Day 40 I start watering with teas made with compost, manure and molasses every other watering. I still get some fade near the end but I don't have deficiencies any more. I just added Dr. Earths Flower Girl 4-10-7 to my tea regime so time will tell if it was a good choice.

I still have a crap load of Canna nutes and a bottle of Cal-Mag collecting dust!
Man how do you do with the molasses? You disolve in water? Can i buy molasses already made and put at my ladies?
 

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2-2-4 or 6-3-6, dosent matter, you can burn with both. Learning the basics is key. http://scienceinhydroponics.com/2010/08/the-npk-mistery-what-do-these-numbers-mean-and-how-are-they-calculated.html I know you are growing soil. But still what the link says applies.And also helps explain IMO why applying forum knowledge. Which is based on hydro, fast growth, big yield. There are a few things in common. But the difference between growing in soil and water are as different as night and day. Soil growers try to apply hydro principles and only cause themselves heartache.
thx for support man. I had trouble with ph since begining ...fucking soil... I verify the water ph everytime and add lemon juice for ph down...but still i don't know why this is a problem...
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Man how do you do with the molasses? You disolve in water? Can i buy molasses already made and put at my ladies?
Molasses is good when beginning to brew a tea, the microbes need a food source to start. But once you introduce the tea to the medium, the microbes food source is the nutes, chemical or organic. No need to keep feeding them molasses. And the continued use of molasses actually becomes counter productive.
 
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