Butane for torch lighter - need help

Grow Goddess

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Lately I have been using my eclipse vape that requires a torch lighter. I am really loving my ND Sap in there!

Anyhow, I have always had problems with torch lighters. I fill them up but they only work good half way. It will light then die, light, then die. The only solution is that I have to shake it while releasing the pressure/gas then refill. It gets me by, but is annoying and a waste of butane too.

Is this because I am using low quality butane? It doesn't even give the percentages on the can. If I were to use a higher grade butane, like what BHO makers use, will that help the lighter burn good until it is actually empty?

Just curious, maybe somebody out there knows. I would appreciate any advice.

The lighter I am speaking of is shown in the picture. It is a triple burner torch lighter. (I stopped burning those two joints in the picture as soon as I tried the ND Sap in the eclipse (it is like crack!) just can't stop hitting it.

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So, do I need a better lighter or better butane? I can't take the interruptions anymore!! I have been using some stuff called Sun, been using that kind for refillable lighters for years but have only had problems with the torch lighter.
 

Grow Goddess

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I am perfectly happy with the eclipse, especially vaping ND Sap. There are other methods that I like, but the ND Sap I have is extra oily, almost to a full watery liquid state. I am guessing due to high levels of terpenes since no heat was used in the process. Either way, it is the most liquid I have ever seen it and there is no sign of solvent.

You are right, now that I think about it. The propane for soldering plumbing, they didn't have any problems with it, worked fine and burned nice and clean. How would I get that into a hand held device? The torch for the soldering is way too big. Really the triple burner on my lighter is too big.

There has to be butane out there that burns consistent until the lighter is empty
 

Glaucoma

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I am perfectly happy with the eclipse, especially vaping ND Sap. There are other methods that I like, but the ND Sap I have is extra oily, almost to a full watery liquid state. I am guessing due to high levels of terpenes since no heat was used in the process. Either way, it is the most liquid I have ever seen it and there is no sign of solvent.

You are right, now that I think about it. The propane for soldering plumbing, they didn't have any problems with it, worked fine and burned nice and clean. How would I get that into a hand held device? The torch for the soldering is way too big. Really the triple burner on my lighter is too big.

There has to be butane out there that burns consistent until the lighter is empty
Well, I've never had trouble with cheap butane.. maybe it's just the device you have. My biggest problem with butane torches is usually the ignitor going out.

As far as propane, yeah.. the size sucks. I've never seen a small handheld one. I use the coleman camping bottles.
 

Grow Goddess

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Thanks all. I guess I will have to invest in a better lighter. :D

I haven't been using my eclipse for a while, but I need to thoroughly test my products and the eclipse fit in to the testing.
 

chernobe

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Idk if this would help but I had the same problem with some torch lighters. I found by holding down the trigger all the way while I was filling it pushed out any trapped air and the problem would be minimized.
 

WarMachine

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I would say its the lighter you are using. I dont use my eclipse to often but when I do I use my creme brulee torch and it works proper
I agree here, I too think it's the lighter. I had one that looked veryyyyy similar and had the same problem. I ended up getting a creme brulee torch as well (bed, bath, beyond) but harbor freight has a good one as well.

I usually just use a lighter when I use my eclipse though.
 

Grow Goddess

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Thanks for the tips.

I just don't care for the soot that gets all over the glass when using a regular lighter.

For some reason when vaping the ND Sap, towards the end it seems to require more heat. It does not burn, which is great, just needs more heat to get it vaping.
 

WarMachine

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Thanks for the tips.

I just don't care for the soot that gets all over the glass when using a regular lighter.

For some reason when vaping the ND Sap, towards the end it seems to require more heat. It does not burn, which is great, just needs more heat to get it vaping.
I don't get the black soot either, I just keep the lighter about a inch or so away and prime the glass before hand. But if you prefer the torch I would go for it. I kept shattering the glass with the torch but official torch I had was non adjustable.
 

Grow Goddess

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I have been using the eclipse for years and knock on wood, I haven't cracked the glass yet.

I had tinted vials around that are supposedly not heat tempered, but I think they are all the same. I can't tell any difference besides the tinting.

My torch lighter does have adjustments, I will keep that in mind for another torch lighter.

With my new oil, a regular lighter will not get it hot enough, soot or no soot. First time I have experience the concentrate needing more heat, but still not burn.
 
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