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Can smoking synth nute unflushed bud CAUSE HARM?

Discussion in 'Nutrients' started by BionicΩChronic, Oct 3, 2017.

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    BionicΩChronic

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    Yo I'm trying to figure out if I'm getting brain cancer or something cause I don't flush and use sythetic nutes on some plants
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    absolutely, and I rest my case.
     
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    KryptoBud

    KryptoBud Well-Known Member

    Yo, it's known to cause brain cancer and micro penis.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    I just flush myself to avoid brain cancer. And nute buildup. :-)
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    Most of the food grown that you eat isn't flushed and it's grown with synthetic nutes.
    The term "synthetic" is misleading. Chemical salts is a better description.
     
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    BionicΩChronic

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    Oh shit... Flushing from now on. Just grew my first organic bud and the taste /feel of the smoke in the lungs is completely different than the synthetic :o anyone got any sources that it causes cancer
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    There is not "synthetic nutrient" build-up in plants! Nor "salt" build-up either!

    The plant takes up the same nutrient ions, whether they are from synthetic or organic!

    FLUSHING is a MYTH!
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    If I use bottled salt nutrients my worms get really pissed, die or leave the pot over night.
    they love the organic style though and that says enough for me.
     
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    Jimdamick

    Jimdamick Well-Known Member

    There has been study after study that proves that marijuana, and most all commercial weed is grown hydroponically with synthetic nutes has no harmful side effects, besides forgetting where you left you keys.
    This thread is a joke, right?
    Flushing does nothing
     
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    BionicΩChronic

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    No it's not a joke it's a legitimate question. But no one is providing proof just opinion. I need to know if this is what's giving me random short headaches every few minutes-hours when I've never really gotten headaches at all before growing my own. Thanks for all the feedback guys! I don't think a single thread I've ever posted has gotten so many replies so fast.
     
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    ruwtz

    ruwtz Well-Known Member

    You're probably getting headaches from wearing that tin foil hat.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    It is funny that you say that. Truth is there can be way more bad stuff in organic inputs. It's poop so to speak. And bad bacteria from bubbling teas.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    I wear tinfoil hats to stop my headaches! :-)

    They are out there.
     
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    BionicΩChronic

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    So your saying there are bad inputs in both?

    And if your using benificials in your brew and in soil amendment there won't be any bad bacteria. And you don't HAVE to use poop
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Cheap fertilizer salts like miracle grow can have too much heavy metal content.

    And there is no real quality control or even control over mining and processing most retail organic inputs.

    They are mined and such in third world countries. Especially guano.

    But have you ever seen or read about the fish slurry refineries? We get a lot of products from places like those.

    And blowing up and sifting rock and lava flows. Sure there are beneficial elements but what else gets through. They are used for other industries like construction first. Agriculture gets leftover stuff from other industries. And the FDA is a joke. I dealt with them as account manager for a natural medicine company for a few years. They just want their fees like any overseeing entity. Expiration dates on medicine are actually based on how many years we are in business and pay them. Not how safe it is for how long.

    And with any research you will find that bubbling teas with organic inputs even seaweed and humic acid containing stuff can promote plenty of bad bacteria. All reputable sources says if you don't have a microscope and don't know how to tell which is which you are not getting the results seemed or can be sure of safe bacteria levels.
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Did you actually READ my post?

    I wrote truth! Science FACT! BASIC Hort 101 dude!

    Your just holding out for an answer YOU want. Backing YOUR view! Bzzzt, your WRONG

    in your first questions assumptions.

    Headaches? 10:1 your smoking early harvested weed. That has not been properly dried and cured! You harvested too early and cured it to little!


    I agree with part 1 !!!

    Heavy metals = yup! Like mercury in Alaskan fish based nutrients and heavy metals in soft rock phosphate. Odd things in Bone Meals, like anti bacterial's. Same for feather meals and blood meals.


    Now part 2? Well, not so much.
    I have never ever had any bad bacterial problems from my AACT... I do suppose it could happen, like Mad Cow from tainted bone meals.... Haven't heard of it yet....
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Depends on what is in the crap you are bubbling eh?

    would you know how to identify all the different things you see under the microscope?

    Why would bubbling an organic input only result in helpful bacteria? Magic?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Oh I get the point Med.

    I also know exactly where my ingr. come from and if they have ever had any problems = only resulting in beneficial bacteria....

    MY worm bin's, and I know what, and where it comes from, as far as what goes in for them to feed on. Harmful bacteria will kill them too.
    My Molasses source? Known, and it's bakery molasses. No bad bacteria there!

    Once in a great while, I'll add some Alfalfa meal. Dr. Earth's is my personal go to. No "bad" bacteria there either....

    I gotta ask. What exactly do you mean "bad bacteria"? It will effect you before the plant. The soil is the buffer. While things like e-coli can and does infect soils poorly taken care of. It does not "transfer" into the plant by the organic process of feeding the plant. That comes from cross contamination at harvest or in processing...

    I mean, If you know whats going in. You know what your getting out. Raw Poo's, even rabbit poo. May not be the best idea......I'll stand with you on that.

    In soil building, everything is well composted....
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    E-coli is a perfect example. Just happens to be well known and in the news all the time.

    If you want the truth that will hurt. Tested meds will get to the level where you would have to use the proper ratio of salt based fertilizer or you will have lost control of possible bad elements from our natural accumulating plant.

    You have no idea what is growing in any organic input or even your water without a microscope and years of knowledge and education.

    Welcome to fucking science, patents and regulations ruining our plant for everyone.

    Now that the greed has taken over and stupid humans got the stores they wanted to buy pot in the plant will likely be eliminated legally for a new product.

    Synthetic cannabanoids. Pharmaceutical company control.

    That is happening now right alongside the big ag and their massive grows they are planning. With gmo seeds that will be all there is legally soon enough.

    Sorry for the tangent folks.
     
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    Heil Tweetler

    Heil Tweetler Well-Known Member

    About 1# added to testicular mass. Don't sweat it unless your nads won't stop growing.
     
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