Can you move a grandfathered MMAR license, no here's the proof

cannadan

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Your possession limit made me laugh.... how could you go on holiday....at least the old 30 day supply made some sense...
If you it eat green... or make concentrates would you then be okay to travel with say 150 grams of oil??
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Where sir, did I say I consulted with a lawyer about posting in this forum. That is a blatant lie. Please show me sir, where I said I consulted with a lawyer.
"I got an email from Turmel this morning, after explaining what is going on. His answer was simple MOVE ON. Great advice."- Ring a bell?
And again I never name called you. That is another lie. I simply said your name calling behavior is akin to that of a grade three level.
Delusional and immature- remember now?
I don't lie son. Why don't you post links to all the cases where patients were charged and convicted for having moved their garden while keeping everything else as per their paperwork? You are DELUSIONAL if you think I will face a minute of grief from the so called 'legality' of having moved my garden. I ain't going nowhere , I won't be run off by a child. I can get as nasty as you want if you are convinced you need to save me from myself - ask around...LOL!
Anyone involved with wilcox and the coalition has zero credibility.
 

gb123

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its just ANOTHER ONE trying to tell Patients (from assumption)what they CANT DO!
Ill leave it up to the courts to decide my fait.
outsiders with green clogging their minds know shit when it comes to growing and medicating your own stash...legal through the courts of CANNADA and NO ONE WILL EVER STOP MMAR
WATCH and SEE where that loose end takes them..LMAOROTFF Its gonna be classic shit when it comes time.

Nothing would become of anything as I have a script and have my GP standing behind me.
END OF STORY!
 

gb123

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Oh boy, where do I start. I didn't say lawyers were smart, or police or judges. Now you are putting words in my mouth. Check my post again, before you talk nonsense. Then you say "I didn't say I was smarter" well there is some truth in that statement!! You know "right from wrong is all", like "promoting" that MMAR license moves are legal when I have proven to all on this forum, they are not. Is that your idea of knowing right from wrong? I am sorry that's DELUSIONAL thinking at best. ( A delusion is a belief that is held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion) As to what Conroy accomplished, I will agree he made some mistakes, but he still won the case, or you wouldn't even be growing now. And if I and my colleagues didn't create the Coalition and hire Conroy we wouldn't even be having this conversation, so where's the gratitude? You "know what the courts decided", but you don't use that knowledge properly do you ? The only details I see being fucked up is your blanatntly wrong interpretation of them. " The PEOPLES PLANT" , where do you find that in the constitution is it a new clause the government just added in ? The people don't have a plant, but we do have a great constitution that gives us a sec 7 right to no " barriers to access" to our chosen medicine. But you don't have a right to a plant guaranteed under the constitution. So I say this to make you stop and THINK, about what kind of irresponsible and dangerous narrative you are creating and to show others just how very wrong you are despite over whelming factual evidence to the contrary. If I was you I would cut your responses, because they just keep making me laugh and laugh and laugh. And they also make you look, well you know, not so smart!! Good luck !
I don't listen to other tell me how it is..when you have no clue as to how it would go

you don't need to write long drawn out explanations to the idiocy of these laws they are proposing
That will be beat hands down inn court
my point here
 
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cheeseofchud

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does not mean it cannot be fought and WON hands down.
Truth is a script is a script is a script and as such gives anyone who is sick, the right to grow.
As for MMAR they had their deal..court will determine the rest!
and truth be known.
.its no difference where you grow your medicine...

grandfathered or not.

The courts have already decided for us.
Just has not gone back to court to be fought with the new BS legislation ..
which wont happen by the way.
;)



cheers everyone knows how it goes...

its a shit show...end of story!

not everyone has thousands for a lawyer.........
you get your power turned off when u get busted,by law it cant get turned back on without a electrical inspection which can take weeks.....also have to get a mold test done,thats 2k.......time off work in court...etc
so its about $10000-$20000 ......lots of people are not willing to break the law to make a point!just sayin
 

cannadan

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What I see here is different perspectives....both somewhat valid...
We appreciate your perspective Gator...and have long known how Chris feels about his rights and garden....and I say all the power to him.

Its long past the time.... that we need to ask permission from the gov ...to treat ourselves with a plant...
any of those recently coming off opiate medications due to the crisis...know that the pain clinics are all offering up mmj in place of opiates..
But we have to grow this medication to be able to afford it...Licenced Poisoner's are completely out of the question for a lot of informed people.
Lets face it ...everyone will have their own little twist or perspective on what is right for them...
I got legal because I had too...though I wish I had not...after the fact...due to the way the government mis- handled our personal information...
being legal mattered not....in a small town everyone knew....

So thanks again Gator for adding to the wealth of knowledge that's available here for those who hang around on a daily basis,
sometimes you have to sort thru a lot of threads and do some reading..but you will usually find others aligned with your way of thinking
and gain the info you need or add the info and content you would like known.
I do see a lot of well intended comments derail a thread and or get interpreted differently than intended and the name calling starts....

Thanks to all who have good intentions when posting....its what makes this site a really good resource.
 

cannadan

Well-Known Member
I'm hoping not directed towards me...cheese... I have had the police in my house and have mmar ...the licence was valid due to court ruling..
they did not question it... but investigated my breakin...
I have not moved....so everything is still good...
you all have to weigh your own circumstances and judge for your self what to do.
you can ask peoples opinions and they are just that,,,opinions.
when it comes right down to it you will do what you feel comfortable doing....if you want ACMPR then go that route you have paper work from HC
if you have your doctor blessing and script in hand....that's also good and do with it what you see fit....
if your mmar and valid...that's cool too. those that fly under the radar....are still treating themselves....I think that's good also...
these are all opinions..but its about taking a plant and the medicine it can provide...
 

Gatorgold

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Your possession limit made me laugh.... how could you go on holiday....at least the old 30 day supply made some sense...
If you it eat green... or make concentrates would you then be okay to travel with say 150 grams of oil??
Yes well that is a dilemma. I use strictly Extracts/oil so I don't really have a problem.same dilemma applies to grandfathered MMAR licenses too.
 

gb123

Well-Known Member
I'm hoping not directed towards me...cheese... I have had the police in my house and have mmar ...the licence was valid due to court ruling..
they did not question it... but investigated my breakin...
I have not moved....so everything is still good...
you all have to weigh your own circumstances and judge for your self what to do.
you can ask peoples opinions and they are just that,,,opinions.
when it comes right down to it you will do what you feel comfortable doing....if you want ACMPR then go that route you have paper work from HC
if you have your doctor blessing and script in hand....that's also good and do with it what you see fit....
if your mmar and valid...that's cool too. those that fly under the radar....are still treating themselves....I think that's good also...
these are all opinions..but its about taking a plant and the medicine it can provide...
no dan
He's the only one . (:
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
"I got an email from Turmel this morning, after explaining what is going on. His answer was simple MOVE ON. Great advice."- Ring a bell?

Delusional and immature- remember now?
I don't lie son. Why don't you post links to all the cases where patients were charged and convicted for having moved their garden while keeping everything else as per their paperwork? You are DELUSIONAL if you think I will face a minute of grief from the so called 'legality' of having moved my garden. I ain't going nowhere , I won't be run off by a child. I can get as nasty as you want if you are convinced you need to save me from myself - ask around...LOL!
Anyone involved with wilcox and the coalition has zero credibility.
"I got an email from Turmel this morning, after explaining what is going on. His answer was simple MOVE ON. Great advice."- Ring a bell?

Delusional and immature- remember now?
I don't lie son. Why don't you post links to all the cases where patients were charged and convicted for having moved their garden while keeping everything else as per their paperwork? You are DELUSIONAL if you think I will face a minute of grief from the so called 'legality' of having moved my garden. I ain't going nowhere , I won't be run off by a child. I can get as nasty as you want if you are convinced you need to save me from myself - ask around...LOL!
Anyone involved with wilcox and the coalition has zero credibility.
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
"I got an email from Turmel this morning, after explaining what is going on. His answer was simple MOVE ON. Great advice."- Ring a bell?

Delusional and immature- remember now?
I don't lie son. Why don't you post links to all the cases where patients were charged and convicted for having moved their garden while keeping everything else as per their paperwork? You are DELUSIONAL if you think I will face a minute of grief from the so called 'legality' of having moved my garden. I ain't going nowhere , I won't be run off by a child. I can get as nasty as you want if you are convinced you need to save me from myself - ask around...LOL!
Anyone involved with wilcox and the coalition has zero credibility.
You, are so uneducated. Turmel is NOT a lawyer, he is an engineer by trade with more legal knowledge than you can find in Conroy's whole office. Ha ha jokes on you again. You did lie. I said your thinking is delusional, that's not name calling pal. As to me being delusional that's nonsense, I don't cling to an invalid belief despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and that is what makes your behaviors delusional and dangerous. But again I am not trying to sway you but show everyone on this forum you are the person that could cause irreparable harm to the uneducated in this matter. They are the ones in droves PM me offline with messages of support and several involved in this thread who have seen ALL your strawman go up in flames! Got anymore you care for me to knock down to show you for who you really are ?? Troll comes to mind as I have been accused of. This is fun as hell for me., how about you Chris. Oops, I missed "one zero credibility for anyone involved in Coalition and Wilcox". Well we won the case, didn't we ?? That was the goal. Now I ask you other than sputter useless strawman arguments what's your pedigree on legal actions to keep us growing, love to here about what you have done for the community over medical users. Did you like my suggestion for your new website and forum??
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
its just ANOTHER ONE trying to tell Patients (from assumption)what they CANT DO!
Ill leave it up to the courts to decide my fait.
outsiders with green clogging their minds know shit when it comes to growing and medicating your own stash...legal through the courts of CANNADA and NO ONE WILL EVER STOP MMAR
WATCH and SEE where that loose end takes them..LMAOROTFF Its gonna be classic shit when it comes time.

Nothing would become of anything as I have a script and have my GP standing behind me.
END OF STORY!
And I guess you got boatloads of money to blow on legal fees, loss of equipment, plants, property and maybe loss your wife if you even have one.
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
not everyone has thousands for a lawyer.........
you get your power turned off when u get busted,by law it cant get turned back on without a electrical inspection which can take weeks.....also have to get a mold test done,thats 2k.......time off work in court...etc
so its about $10000-$20000 ......lots of people are not willing to break the law to make a point!just sayin
Closer to 100k in legal fees, if there is any appeal involved even higher, not mention the other loses I clearly elucidated.
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
power turned off? lmao not a patient ..PLEASE spare me your foolery
how does a sick person get busted anyway? lol
But But but but but but keep tryin
probono
lol

any good lawyer would take this one for free
you will not understand that one though

people who are not willing to grow and save their life........... DIE because some fool on a MMJ forum tells them not to???

You are a fool like the others who do the same,,
A sick person gets busted by someone that doesn't like you who drops the dime on your illegal license, that how it goes. Could be your wife, your ex, the neighbor you pissed of or someone on this forum that would like to throw you under the bus. " Any good lawyer would this one for free", really prove it. I assume you have this all setup for that eventuality right. So what's your pro bono lawyers name willing to lose 100k in fees billing to defend someone who has zero legal legs to stand on?? Come you can do it tell us the lawyers name??
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
What I see here is different perspectives....both somewhat valid...
We appreciate your perspective Gator...and have long known how Chris feels about his rights and garden....and I say all the power to him.

Its long past the time.... that we need to ask permission from the gov ...to treat ourselves with a plant...
any of those recently coming off opiate medications due to the crisis...know that the pain clinics are all offering up mmj in place of opiates..
But we have to grow this medication to be able to afford it...Licenced Poisoner's are completely out of the question for a lot of informed people.
Lets face it ...everyone will have their own little twist or perspective on what is right for them...
I got legal because I had too...though I wish I had not...after the fact...due to the way the government mis- handled our personal information...
being legal mattered not....in a small town everyone knew....

So thanks again Gator for adding to the wealth of knowledge that's available here for those who hang around on a daily basis,
sometimes you have to sort thru a lot of threads and do some reading..but you will usually find others aligned with your way of thinking
and gain the info you need or add the info and content you would like known.
I do see a lot of well intended comments derail a thread and or get interpreted differently than intended and the name calling starts....

Thanks to all who have good intentions when posting....its what makes this site a really good resource.
ThAnks for the kind words, and support. Again I do this not to persuade GB123 or VANECHRIS, they are stuck in there mindset, but to educate those who do not know the LAW in this area and to prevent tradedgy by believing false presumptions. If Health Canada, and Conroy's website don't convince the feel free to say you are bullet proof, and test your theory, but why put yourself in harms way, when you can jump into the ACMPR easily.
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
june 1st 2006 4pm i was busted with a mmar license.....charges got dropped,but cost me thousands

AND GB,DONT YOU FUCKING TELL ME WHAT DID OR DID NOT HAPPEN IN MY LIFE U FUCKING GOOF PIECE OF SHIT motherfucker!
Here here, wow, looks like GB 123 is well liked, lol.....
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
not at all.....
its that dumbass gb hiding behind his pc with his dick in his hand.........ill bet my left nut hes a lazy bum who has never worked a hard day in his life....hence the "ME ME " attitude.......guy is a complete joke!
Mr. Cheese, love your statements. Boy as the thread continues GB123 & VANECHRIS, or not looking too good are they. Simply "pathological" thinking I see from him too.
 

Gatorgold

Well-Known Member
its just ANOTHER ONE trying to tell Patients (from assumption)what they CANT DO!
Ill leave it up to the courts to decide my fait.
outsiders with green clogging their minds know shit when it comes to growing and medicating your own stash...legal through the courts of CANNADA and NO ONE WILL EVER STOP MMAR
WATCH and SEE where that loose end takes them..LMAOROTFF Its gonna be classic shit when it comes time.

Nothing would become of anything as I have a script and have my GP standing behind me.
END OF STORY!
I guess Conroy's website notification dated April 2017 and Health Canada website currently saying you CANNOT move an MMAR license and remain legal. Is that my assumption or is that FACT. I say fact. Another straw man down in flames. Boy you might need to borrow some hay from your farm neighbors to construct another straw man as you gotta be just about out of straw, lol..... Bring it on Bro, or put you tail between you legs and skidattle. Oops missed this one "Nothing would become of anything as I have a script and have my GP standing behind me.". What script, doctors are not allowed to prescribe, I thought I taught you this. Doctors can only "authorize use". Wow you really are uneducated in the law. No doctor is going to defend you when the doctors license is on the line. Why because as you say your doctor is available, but you choose not to use him to enter the ACMPR. The courts will crush you over that. Remember mandatory minimums for 6 plants or less is 6 months. 6-200 plants will net you 2 years minimum, and on it goes. Like I said don't take my word for it take the former justice ministers word.

The Canadian government has introduced new legislation that promises to crack down on drug crimes by imposing mandatory jail sentences. The law reforms are part of the federal government's national anti-drug strategy.

“It's a very clear message: ‘You will be doing jail time.’” - Justice Minister Rob Nicholson
 
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